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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:08:00 -
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they really suck now |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:10:00 -
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what did u have in mind? |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1590
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:27:00 -
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Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3619
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:32:00 -
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No, they don't.
I've been using sniper rifles (advanced basic) all build, and they've been just as easy to use as they always were.
We used to have a time machine
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7997
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:36:00 -
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Snipers are easy to use and very low risk.
Thus, low reward.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3333
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:09:00 -
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No they don't. I only have Sniper Level I and I've never even felt a reason to go higher than that.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
82
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:59:00 -
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really pretty much all of the dedicated snipers in the game are specing CR,AR, or AR snipers can pubstomp like everybody else but they just dont measure up to proto dropsuits the thales being only viable sniper in pc |
DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
90
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:08:00 -
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They actually do need some fixes. We had a top 10 list we are going to put up on our blog of some balanced ways to upgrade the class.
The sniper is reviled and hated because of the risk/reward issue but comments like "get a Thales and 3 damage mods" are just silly. Would you tell an assault player that ARs are balanced because the Balac AR is good? NO. he has a point, snipers aren't a big PC factor anymore...and they should continue to pose a threat when they upgrade just like any other class.
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Cpl Foster USMC
EcHo CrossFire Squadron
500
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:14:00 -
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I just went 42-0 over 4 matches, so I don't know what you mean...?
(Edit 2 min later....) Oh, you mean we need a special suit of our own with 6 high slots...?...
then yes I'm all for it.... |
calvin b
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
1386
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:18:00 -
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If you have a Thale then you are fine. You can also get away with the KAAL and the Charge. The problem is hit detection and the fact it takes a lot of shots to take down a tanked heavy if your not using a Thale or Charge. If you are dealing with a smart heavy you will never kill them with a KAAL.
TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:25:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:they really suck now
wat
Just today I started sniping people at medium ranges while standing and dropping drop uplinks.
And afterwards I camped a spawn on a tower that the opposing team used. Cost them about ten clones and then I ran out of ammo.
So I took my scrambler pistol and capped an objective and killed three more dudes. Then I blew up an installation with an RE and got killed when I forgot the CRU at the objective. Afterwards I changed into my frontline fit and murdered them with my AR.
I see nothing wrong with sniper gameplay. Just don't expect to be able to snipe in all circumstances. |
Tectonic Fusion
983
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:08:00 -
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Don't blame the weapon, blame the scanner.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
217
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:09:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:really pretty much all of the dedicated snipers in the game are specing CR,AR, or AR snipers can pubstomp like everybody else but they just dont measure up to proto dropsuits the thales being only viable sniper in pc
He has a good point there. No other class has to use their officer weapon to be a threat in PC. |
Sgt Buttscratch
1330
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:28:00 -
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The HP buff did hurt the sniper rifle, but I can still mash face with a C15-A ADV rifle, just gotta hit heads now. Personally I think that snipers should have a base DMG of STD-750 TAC-500 CHARGE-900. But add bullet physics, dip, sway, wind. With this increased scopes would help, most hunters in michigans woodlands have a better scope on their .22 squirrel killer.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Knox Firmus
SCIENCE FOR LIFE
6
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:40:00 -
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calvin b wrote:If you have a Thale then you are fine. You can also get away with the KAAL and the Charge. The problem is hit detection and the fact it takes a lot of shots to take down a tanked heavy if your not using a Thale or Charge. If you are dealing with a smart heavy you will never kill them with a KAAL.
If you want to 1-2 snipe heavies, go get a railtank. They're supposed to take a lot of shots to kill, regardless of the infantry weapons used. They're heavies. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3613
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:53:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again.
Done.
Posting to confirm that sniper rifles suck.
(Though the main problem is hit detection)
I'm bored.
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
83
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:54:00 -
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Cpl Foster USMC wrote:I just went 42-0 over 4 matches, so I don't know what you mean...?
(Edit 2 min later....) Oh, you mean we need a special suit of our own with 6 high slots...?...
then yes I'm all for it....
this isnt oh im so good i went (X - 0) against some noobs this is about making sniper viable competitively and fixing their hitdetection
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3613
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:54:00 -
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Knox Firmus wrote:
If you want to 1-2 snipe heavies, go get a railtank. They're supposed to take a lot of shots to kill, regardless of the infantry weapons used. They're heavies.
Make a thread demanding to nerf Shotguns and Nova Knives or your entire argument falls apart.
I'm bored.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
573
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:09:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again.
That's the thing. That's the only good sniper. And why should we heavily rely on damage mods? |
Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
83
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Snipers are easy to use and very low risk.
Thus, low reward.
snipers are one of the hardest weapons in the game to use ....... to what are you comparing it to ? |
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
1620
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again. That's the thing. That's the only good sniper. And why should we heavily rely on damage mods?
All alpha weapons should. That's kinds the point. Why do you need anything else? You want to brick tank your sniper suit?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
240
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:31:00 -
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for us true snipers,
it is known among us that ads hit detection is really wonky since 1.7
sometimes it works, mostly it does not.
1. hit detection
2. scopes
3. some new sniper rifles with a different look would be just shizzly kool to boot.
4 cross hairs for hip fire would be butta 
" No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz
" yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
263
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again.
Officer Sniper rifle which randomly salvaged from matches + 3 cmplx dmg mod is kinda way too much just for ability to headshot kill logissaults... 
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
167
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:37:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:really pretty much all of the dedicated snipers in the game are specing CR,AR, or AR snipers can pubstomp like everybody else but they just dont measure up to proto dropsuits the thales being only viable sniper in pc
I respectfully disagree. I use charges more than thales and have success. But I use my covenant more than anything with great success as 75 percent of my kills are headshots. I go for people guarding points and countersnipe so I usually have plenty of time to line them up. I do take out guys on the move to but half the time I go for them it ends up an assist. Then again I do have prof. 4 as well so im sure that helps. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
167
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:40:00 -
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Kahn Zo wrote:for us true snipers, it is known among us that ads hit detection is really wonky since 1.7 sometimes it works, mostly it does not. 1. hit detection 2. scopes 3. some new sniper rifles with a different look would be just shizzly kool to boot. 4 cross hairs for hip fire would be butta
Yes brother I agree. We need zoom. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1830
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:40:00 -
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calvin b wrote:If you have a Thale then you are fine. You can also get away with the KAAL and the Charge. The problem is hit detection and the fact it takes a lot of shots to take down a tanked heavy if your not using a Thale or Charge. If you are dealing with a smart heavy you will never kill them with a KAAL.
There should be some god damn advantage to being a heavy...
Woe is me, I can't snipe out a tanked heavy very easily you know the same suit that will eat literally every single bullet in CQC due to not being able to dodge and can't cross out in the open due to being so slow. 
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
87
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:53:00 -
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excillon wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:really pretty much all of the dedicated snipers in the game are specing CR,AR, or AR snipers can pubstomp like everybody else but they just dont measure up to proto dropsuits the thales being only viable sniper in pc I respectfully disagree. I use charges more than thales and have success. But I use my covenant more than anything with great success as 75 percent of my kills are headshots. I go for people guarding points and countersnipe so I usually have plenty of time to line them up. I do take out guys on the move to but half the time I go for them it ends up an assist. Then again I do have prof. 4 as well so im sure that helps.
again bro good for you but I dont mean in pub matches I mean against proto gear and competent players proto sniper with as many dmg mods at you can stack just dont add up |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
917
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:12:00 -
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We need a Light Frame, Marksman specialist suit. Something that utilizes sniper rifles better than the other suits(because right now none of the suits are geared towards them, which is good and bad in a way...). Maybe give it a better accuracy or help increase optimum range?
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
263
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:18:00 -
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1 - Badly need hitdetection fix.
2 - Headshot dmg multiplier change to 250-300% (would be nice for start) that maybe depends on SR type (Regular, Tactial, Charge).
3 - Ability to zoom in\out. Let's say tap L1 & L2 buttons (you don't need throw a nade while scoped with sniper rifle, as well hold button to stay zoomed (optional)). I'm sure some sniper prefer "hold to scope" (Tac SR feature?), but there can be added several actions to unzoom\unscope like melee attack.
??? 4 - More stability when scoped while standing\moving, increased hip fire accuracy (special ability of Tac SR as cqc\close range SR) ???
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
TheLostLegion
241
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:25:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Get a Thales sniper rifle with 3 damage mods. Then consider posting this again.
Get any officer weapon with 3 damage mods then **** off because your agreement holds less water than the titanic. Using a Thale and 3 complex damage mods and using that ad an agreement that Sniper Rifles aren't UP is like arguing that assault rifles would only 've been OP if someone is using a Balec with 3 complex damage modes. Next time use your head before typing instead of just smashing it against your keyboard to type out meaningless dribble.
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