Are tanks OP, though? Not counting that ghetto militia nitro, I feel strong in my tank but hardly invincible. I've got excellent defenses against infantry (which is why I spec'd into tanks to begin with, to quit dying so much) but with a missile turret, it's not like I'm reaping the harvest. I get the majority of my points from blowing up other vehicles and installations. AV players can and do push me back, and I get blown up when I make a bad decision, and they make a good one.

So yeah, I'm having fun, but I'm hardly T-rexing. Hell, I feel essential, because I feel like a solid line of defense protecting my team from blood-crazed serial killers in blaster maddys.

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And those that went into tanks for that very reason are the REASON WHY I MADE MY TEKKAMAN AV SUIT. And your the topic of my stance against tanks. Nothing personal mate.

I can't go into a mmo and pawn lv60 mmo players. But someone can just get into a tank and kill 10 FPS players before losing that tank. Doesn't sit right with me.

But you dude, have earned my respect for admitting to that. Much respect dude.

I laugh at swarms in my tank. I have nearly 480 armour regen per second!

Swarms weren't OP in my eyes because unlike scrubby $#!t fits, I could actually survive them.

Though I won't deny that Gunnlogies needed a buff. They were the ones who were truly UP. Along with lolrendering.

And again, you say this as if piloting anything other than a DS requires more skill than an AR.

You can be OP all you want. Nobody is going to use anything but another tank now anyway.


Please Don't

Tanks were UP and swarms were OP there's really no denying that (Unless you're one of the people who gave AVers a bad name. Coming from a guy with prof 4 in swarms) but now swarms are UP. (Biggest problem is the pretty limited range I personally think they need a small range buff or a different range system.) Also tanks are a little too fast (Base speed not bugged modules).

I'll agree that the tanks might be too fast, although I also think the madrugar is way too clumsy for something designed to cart around tonnes of armor.

As for swarms, I am of a mind to at least wait a week before I proclaim them UP. The big question becomes do you go for range or damage? I don't think they should get both, but which would SL users prefer?

Swarms were never a threat to my Incubus so long as I moved around a bit, now they're a joke to me. They also bug out wicked weird, though I haven't caught it on camera yet, they just spin around my ship in circles and don't hit me for anywhere from a few seconds to almost half a minute. It looked really cool though >_<

Swarms need faster travel time now, at the absolute least.

Still with us, DF? Good to hear, you seemed really bummed out before. Did you switch to a missile fit for your boat?

If isk isn't a balance factor...
Than a person who easily lost 1,000,000 isk
to someone who used 100,000 isk isn't imbalance?

stuff

The US military does not like our armor to get chinked. Scratches the paint job and annoys us.

If the RPG threat was truly high to tanks, there would be some evidence of it in actual combat huh?

The javelin works on the tanks of other nations because... uh.... who have we been fighting for the last thirty years? Not exactly the space-age enemy we were preparing for.

Are there people out there who think the tanks are not OP? lol how is it possible to be so blind? Or is it ignorance that prevents some of you to see the obvious?

It's the fact that you can hop in one with no investment on your part that's the problem.

We should just give everyone free proto gear while we're at it

NOOB 514

Ahem. Just destroyed two tanks yesterday using nothing but sticky RE's. Snuck up behind while it was busy shooting my team mates. Big explosions and kill points while running away giggling. Number two? Dropped atop of a tank and stuck RE's once again, again explosions and kill points.

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I run scout. Fun times were had. Just thought I'd share.

crediblity lost in the first sentence. a tank is cheap now

beside that ISK is not a balance factor, which again shows your lack of credibility.


aka biased tank driver in disguise

pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existet is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing.

it is simple, in a game with limited amount of players, as long as a tank only needs 1 person to operate, 1 person has to be able to get the ability to hold him off wihtout having to resort to the same tool. if you dont understand this then you have no credibility and dont bother to post, because you just make yourself look stupid and highlight how bad you are. in fact, all the tank QQ was already highlighting how bad some players just are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum.

the latest games speak a clear language, you cant even call a LAV cause the teams limit is filled out with only tanks. it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum.

please, amuse me and try to answer with some real arguments, because I already know you cant, you are too biased and stuck into your little tunnelvision dreamworld.

lol you serious? my suit cost more than your tank.

Cost so much? My tank cost less than my dropsuit and is 10x as effective...

Tanks are broken. You're pre 1.7 arguments are void. You go your buff and look what happened. We told you so, but you thought for some delusional reason that you were meant to be invincible and suffer no risk of losing ISK.

Your tank hardly costs more then my Main weapon and less then my Main weapon & sidearm combined.....that tank hardly costs more then my 220k suit fit ....that gets 2 shotted...

AV is meant to wreck tanks, your point is null and void.

I have a Sica with a blaster, shield booster, and shield hardener.

So long as I can make it to a safe spot with my modules still active, it is invincible to infantry.

The fit costs less than many of my suits.
Don't tell me this is balanced.

+ähm no AV is not meant to let the tank go and come back fully repaired its meant to be able to destroy tanks. Whats the point if only repell the tank for 20sec from the battlefield? The big question is how easy it shoud be. Prior 1.7 the sistance of tanks where pretty mixed there were tanks that went down after two or thrre volleys of Proto Swarms and there were tanks that could eat enough of them to be effective unless they faced organised AV.

CCP should remove proto AV from the field and should restart balncing std AV vs std AV and than introduce adv vehicles alongside adv AV etc.

If you want AV to only damage tanks and force them out of battle there needs to change much more. Cool down must increase drastically and no tanker should be able to recall his vehicle during cooldown or call in another one while he hides his first tank deep in the redline...

From a game perspective repelling tanks would be enough but is A) not rewarding for the AV guy and B) Tanks can currently come back way too fast. If those things get sortet I ma fine with repelling them.