LOL the "aura" on most vehicles won't render past 15m.

And how can you attack something when It easily flees with no effort or care whatsoever?

And no don't feed me the "It's only because of the MLT NOS glitch" bs. A vehicle with even basic or no NOS modules can still easily evade the area. The whole "waves of opportunity" argument is thrown out of the window when the vehicle can easily swim to safety after the wave has hit.

NOS/Afterburners need to be removed.

crediblity lost in the first sentence. a tank is cheap now

beside that ISK is not a balance factor, which again shows your lack of credibility.


aka biased tank driver in disguise

pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existet is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing.

it is simple, in a game with limited amount of players, as long as a tank only needs 1 person to operate, 1 person has to be able to get the ability to hold him off wihtout having to resort to the same tool. if you dont understand this then you have no credibility and dont bother to post, because you just make yourself look stupid and highlight how bad you are. in fact, all the tank QQ was already highlighting how bad some players just are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum.

the latest games speak a clear language, you cant even call a LAV cause the teams limit is filled out with only tanks. it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum.

please, amuse me and try to answer with some real arguments, because I already know you cant, you are too biased and stuck into your little tunnelvision dreamworld.

lol you serious? my suit cost more than your tank.

Well, when swarm users were not rendering, AV scrubs like yourself passed the HTFU hat around. So don't give me that **** about not being able to see the hardener activation when I can see it from a long way off while carrying an AR.

But even if you couldn't see it, I would tell you to wait until they fix it. Shouldn't take long. Until then, you can suck it up like you told so many tankers to.

So glad to see you crying. Makes up for all those stupid posts of yours.

Well, when swarm users were not rendering, AV scrubs like yourself passed the HTFU hat around. So don't give me that **** about not being able to see the hardener activation when I can see it from a long way off while carrying an AR.

But even if you couldn't see it, I would tell you to wait until they fix it. Shouldn't take long. Until then, you can suck it up like you told so many tankers to.

So glad to see you crying. Makes up for all those stupid posts of yours.

No, they were too slow and too difficult to keep alive. They needed sustained defensive capability and now they have that.

They are also fun as hell to use now.

Do you have any idea whatsoever how long 20 seconds is in a competitive match? 20 seconds is an eternity of free damage you are putting on the enemy MCC.

Use AV weaponry on actual tanks in real life and you will come to understand how entirely worthless they actually are. They are an annoyance meant to deter state-of-the-art tanks, not kill them. Choppers and LAV's are about the only things that truly get destroyed by AV.

Tanks are killed by tanks. The only reason games work differently is because a lot of people act like children when they arent capable of dealing with every single potential threat at the same time. It's the BS entitlement complex that comes with competitive gaming. Honestly, the REAL tank counter right now are assault dropships. Tanks cant do much of anything about those. But rather than do whats obvious, people would rather complain because its outside of their comfort zone.

how convenient you use probs your most expensive suit and compare it to your cheapest tank fit....convenient

Well, when swarm users were not rendering, AV scrubs like yourself passed the HTFU hat around. So don't give me that **** about not being able to see the hardener activation when I can see it from a long way off while carrying an AR.

But even if you couldn't see it, I would tell you to wait until they fix it. Shouldn't take long. Until then, you can suck it up like you told so many tankers to.

So glad to see you crying. Makes up for all those stupid posts of yours.

Oh I'm sure new and intermediate players are doing sucking it up. By deleting Dust, and playing the many MMOs for free on the PS4 and PC that are more balanced than this game.

crediblity lost in the first sentence. a tank is cheap now

beside that ISK is not a balance factor, which again shows your lack of credibility.


aka biased tank driver in disguise

pre patch armor tanks and proper fit took 20 - 30 seconds (depending on the amount of damage mods) to kill SOLO with proto swarms. I wonder what those people crying about solo guys killing them did in those timeframe. roof forges is a map design issue. the only real issue that existet is that getting into a tank resistant enough to proto AV took long while you could get proto AV in a week of playing.

it is simple, in a game with limited amount of players, as long as a tank only needs 1 person to operate, 1 person has to be able to get the ability to hold him off wihtout having to resort to the same tool. if you dont understand this then you have no credibility and dont bother to post, because you just make yourself look stupid and highlight how bad you are. in fact, all the tank QQ was already highlighting how bad some players just are. most tank driver behave like average CoD kids, they want be able to run into a squad alone, kill everyone and move out alive and if it does not happen, they cry on the forum.

the latest games speak a clear language, you cant even call a LAV cause the teams limit is filled out with only tanks. it would be naiv to believe that this will stay like it is now, CCP will sooner or later realize the mistake and swing the nerf hammer again. enjoy while it lasts, I will just watch the show and again collect the tears of all bad tank drivers whining all over the forum.

please, amuse me and try to answer with some real arguments, because I already know you cant, you are too biased and stuck into your little tunnelvision dreamworld.

And yet people invested in them. So one of your two claims is wrong. Which is it?

How convenient the cheapest tank is 50x better than his most expensive fit....

I personally invested into tanks because my corp needed another tanker for PC. I took an ALT(because I wasn't pissing away my main) and specced him into tanks when uprising hit.

I stuck it out because I wasn't bad at it, and people still needed a tanker.

But of course, people could never spec into something because that is the role they like doing, even if it is difficult?

Hell, a big part of the appeal of tanking was the difficulty, because not everyone could do it.

LOLWhat? What makes a tank so difficult?

And no, everyone didn't spec into tanks because not everyone wants to sit inside an easy mode steel box all day.

How convenient the cheapest tank is 50x better than his most expensive fit....

LOLWhat? What makes a tank so difficult?

And no, everyone didn't spec into tanks because not everyone wants to sit inside an easy mode steel box all day.

meh. av was easy mode before. sit on a hill kill tank in seconds. lose millions of isk to a cheap ass suit.

i guess it's the tanks turn to be a bit OP. :D

Does anyone not realize that these are TANKS, not jeeps going to and from objective, these are MURDER MACHINES. Supposed to be murder machines, and should remain so, could use some fine tuning especially in regards to speed, but otherwise, 2 Proto AV dudes who know what they are doing can take out tanks without the use of another tank or Jihad Jeep. I seen it done. Swarmer and Forge Gunner, the tank had a buggy nitro but it got stuck on a 'something.' Not invincible just immune to average/lame assaulters with too many damage mods.

meh. av was easy mode before. sit on a hill kill tank in seconds. lose millions of isk to a cheap ass suit.

i guess it's the tanks turn to be a bit OP. :D

Never forget, that swarms were never OP to Atiim, and the other scrubs.

It did exactly what they wanted, they never cared about anyone elses enjoyment out of the game, and it made them feel powerful with very little effort.

Now that they are not having as much fun, everything needs to be reoriented towards them again.

Must have been an only child with parents who spoiled him.

Swarms weren't OP in my eyes because unlike scrubby $#!t fits, I could actually survive them.

Though I won't deny that Gunnlogies needed a buff. They were the ones who were truly UP. Along with lolrendering.

And again, you say this as if piloting anything other than a DS requires more skill than an AR.

You can be OP all you want. Nobody is going to use anything but another tank now anyway.


Please Don't

They cost less than my dropsuit...