Alright, good to know. Never let an Eve guy touch my CEO title.

Alright, good to know. Never let an Eve guy touch my CEO title.

The fault lays with the OP, not the system.

If they had done the obvious thing and read up some more on corp safety it clearly says on pretty much every guide to secure the shares. They didn't even seem to know about shares, yet entrusted their corp CEO role to someone.

As of today i lost my corp to the eve player after ccp told me they took steps to prevent this from happening and so i guess ccp lied to me and my corp and allowed this to happen. I got voted out and no one else could vote against him he has all the shares and dust players dont vote. I dont know how he got them would have like this problem fixed i dont think its fair for this to happen and nothing i can do. So to everyone in dust dust core is control by a trader he cant help the corp and the name is corrupt now. I wish ccp will disbanded the corp. Im not happy that this happen all the hard i have done in this corp taken away in 2 days by something I couldnt stop or didnt know about. Jihad destroyer 011011 said he only wanted the corp name thats f up i helped made this corp and in 2 days it was taken away its a sad day in dust .

Hello,

Thanks for your email and please accept your most sincere apologies for the delay in replying to you.

After thoroughly investigating the issue in question we have now cancelled the vote triggered by the mentioned EVE Online pilot and your CEO role should have been restored. In order for us to do please be aware one of our Game Master (GM Grave) temporary joined your Corporation and modified the number of corporation shares available. This will not in any way affect the Corporation and was only required in order for us to intervene.

Additionally to the above we have also taken extra steps to avoid similar issues occurring again with the parties involved.

We would also like to bring to your attention to take extra care when appointing directors, especially if the player is an EVE Pilot. Corporation Management, EVE side, is much more elaborated than in DUST 514 and Directors, as well as CEO do have a lot more features available to them, some of which can be used in some ways to take over corporations.

Please be on the lookout for further communications on this matter as we will make a public announcement on this issue in the coming days via our official forums in order to clarify the mechanics, policies and our stance on this matter.

If you have any further issue please let us know.

Warm regards,
GM Unicorn
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514

While EVE (and now DUST) is all about the scamming and the cheating, it is just as much about smart play to protect yourself from the scamming an the cheating. CCP cares just as much about balancing this as they care about balancing weapons. This incident, as with the AWOXing incidents, shows that CCP does not accept scamming and cheating that does not have a counter. I am glad that CCP chose to step in and correct this situation. It did not meet the standards of Meta Game balance that we come to expect from CCP. Sort of an oops moment for them I expect. DonGÇÖt expect petitioning to work after they get proper messaging and counter measures in though.

Most of the top corps in the game are in some form of alliance. And it has an extremely strong effect on how PC battles are carried out. Failing to see the importance of it being represented in game is a rookie mistake.

exactly.

which part of "the most back-stabbing cutthroat videogame in the world" was misleading?

Makes me wonder why GMs got involved at all... and why they assumed it was an exploit when clearly it is not.

it is an exploit because they took advantage of a serious flaw in the lack of programing in the dust 514 mechanics

The simple way to fix this is to give all Dust corps the same stuff as EvE Corps, roles, skills, everything. This way you don't hide options for CEO's that might be detrimental later down the road, like what happened here with the Shares. I'm amazed actually CCP didn't emplement corps this way and instead gave dust some watered down version which has half the Corp options hidden.

OK what the heck before shutdown today i was given a message that said a eve player in my corp was running for CEO of my corp and that my CEO roles where removed till the vote was final and in truth i have been shut out and whats worst this eve pilot is not a director he doesn't have a singe role and also apparent only eve pilots are allowed to make these votes so it seems there is nothing i can do about it and in fact i think he already has control of the corp with his vote of 1!!!
I Don't know how this happened and it is completely unfair and wrong that EVE is allowed to do this some how and no one i have talked to even knows how he can do it with out any roles. I have submitted a ticket and emailed customer support but by the time i get a reply this pilot will have probably deleted all the members and again there is nothing i can do...... so yeah what the heck!!!!!

OK what the heck before shutdown today i was given a message that said a eve player in my corp was running for CEO of my corp and that my CEO roles where removed till the vote was final and in truth i have been shut out and whats worst this eve pilot is not a director he doesn't have a singe role and also apparent only eve pilots are allowed to make these votes so it seems there is nothing i can do about it and in fact i think he already has control of the corp with his vote of 1!!!
I Don't know how this happened and it is completely unfair and wrong that EVE is allowed to do this some how and no one i have talked to even knows how he can do it with out any roles. I have submitted a ticket and emailed customer support but by the time i get a reply this pilot will have probably deleted all the members and again there is nothing i can do...... so yeah what the heck!!!!!

Apparently the guy who did this agrees with you.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3856505#post3856505

I liked his post so much I posted a similar one as well. There should be equality for leadership in both games for managing their corps.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120543&find=unread

exactly.

which part of "the most back-stabbing cutthroat videogame in the world" was misleading?

He may have had roles from a previous corp that allowed him to access shares and start the vote, its a bug they never really fixed in EvE and thats the reason any new good corp you join requires you to drop roles first (takes 24 hours) then join them.

A quick check on the attributes of Dust Core from Eve side indicates that at one point in time someone added shares to the corporation. Current number of shares is 1001, which is 1 more share than what a new corporation starts with. I would guess that when a director he added one share and transferred it to himself to allow himself a foothold if it was ever needed.

Im losing my corp right now and dont think its fair. I cant remove Jihad destroyer 011011 from my corp and cant vote against him. He want give back the shares he blocked me from accepting any apps into the corp. He is not director but got all my shares is now trying get rid of me. I hate that Im lossing my corp right . We on dust need to see the shares on here and control them. no one know this can happen on dust side could happen and did . I just want my shares back and him gone from this corp. He kicked people from my corp . This is not right my corp been around sent close beta . Next time lets us have rights to fix this problem and not be screwed im so screwed. Im not eve player didnt know about shares and he not director. By the way Jihad destroyer 011011 is saying he didnt do this when i have the notification that says what happen.

Just a quick update all...

I logged on tonight to check if Vala had the corp back and she hasn't.

I have no idea what CCP did to help, but it's not succeeded. When Vala logged on today at the end of the vote timer with the hope she could have her CEO powers unblocked due to the vote ending.. she found that Jihad had control of the corp, which resulted in him kicking the players who have been supporting her.

Now Jihad has transferred CEO to RAider Vherikor and Vala has no control over the corp anymore.

By his own admission on the EVE forums, Jihad has posted announcing the exploit he found and used against DUST CORE, and mentions he has hit multiple corps via this 'bug/exploit' between the games.

CCP This is your own fault for bad coding, and this coming from someone who works in the game industry himself. You have proivided players with no way to defend themselves from espionage in this instance. If they could defend themselves and lost it, then fair enough.. that's the world of New Eden, but due to bad choices, you have given players the ability to ruin someone's hard work without being challenged.

This should be put to rights to undo your mistake, to reinstate control of the corps to their owners. As mentioned.. i would support the espionage if it was fair and Dust CEO's had mechanics to defend themselves. Since there are no mechanics to do such, then you should put these to rights, and put in defenses against it. Any other course of action imho is down to negligence.

So sorry.. despite CCP claiming they have helped, The theft was successful.