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Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:42:00 -
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OK what the heck before shutdown today i was given a message that said a eve player in my corp was running for CEO of my corp and that my CEO roles where removed till the vote was final and in truth i have been shut out and whats worst this eve pilot is not a director he doesn't have a singe role and also apparent only eve pilots are allowed to make these votes so it seems there is nothing i can do about it and in fact i think he already has control of the corp with his vote of 1!!! I Don't know how this happened and it is completely unfair and wrong that EVE is allowed to do this some how and no one i have talked to even knows how he can do it with out any roles. I have submitted a ticket and emailed customer support but by the time i get a reply this pilot will have probably deleted all the members and again there is nothing i can do...... so yeah what the heck!!!!! |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:17:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:The only way this happens is if you assign CEO of your corp to an EVE player. Even if they give the CEO title back they could have taken shares during their stay which gives them power to boot the current CEO using voting. It seems this is becoming increasingly common and confusing people so we will add a warning about it when you resign from CEO.
The shares and voting system is complicated and we purposefully did not include any of this in DUST. However once you have a mixed corporation you need to understand the implications of having both games involved. ok so we are screwed thanks for clearing that up that all dust players are usless against anything eve side because we have no tools or notification of the lack of tools to do anything about everything that eve can do to dust players .... yay
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Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:24:00 -
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Im losing my corp right now and dont think its fair. I cant remove Jihad destroyer 011011 from my corp and cant vote against him. He want give back the shares he blocked me from accepting any apps into the corp. He is not director but got all my shares is now trying get rid of me. I hate that Im lossing my corp right . We on dust need to see the shares on here and control them. no one know this can happen on dust side could happen and did . I just want my shares back and him gone from this corp. He kicked people from my corp . This is not right my corp been around sent close beta . Next time lets us have rights to fix this problem and not be screwed im so screwed. Im not eve player didnt know about shares and he not director. By the way Jihad destroyer 011011 is saying he didnt do this when i have the notification that says what happen. |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:06:00 -
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As of today i lost my corp to the eve player . I got voted out and no one else could vote against him he has all the shares and dust players dont vote. I dont know how he got them would have like this problem fixed i dont think its fair for this to happen and nothing i can do. So to everyone in dust dust core is control by a trader he cant help the corp and the name is corrupt now. I wish ccp will disbanded the corp. Im not happy that this happen all the hard i have done in this corp taken away in 2 days by something I couldnt stop or didnt know about. Jihad destroyer 011011 said he only wanted the corp name thats f up i helped made this corp and in 2 days it was taken away its a sad day in dust . |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:51:00 -
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Vala Prime wrote:As of today i lost my corp to the eve player after ccp told me they took steps to prevent this from happening and so i guess ccp lied to me and my corp and allowed this to happen. I got voted out and no one else could vote against him he has all the shares and dust players dont vote. I dont know how he got them would have like this problem fixed i dont think its fair for this to happen and nothing i can do. So to everyone in dust dust core is control by a trader he cant help the corp and the name is corrupt now. I wish ccp will disbanded the corp. Im not happy that this happen all the hard i have done in this corp taken away in 2 days by something I couldnt stop or didnt know about. Jihad destroyer 011011 said he only wanted the corp name thats f up i helped made this corp and in 2 days it was taken away its a sad day in dust .
Hello,
Thanks for your email and please accept your most sincere apologies for the delay in replying to you.
After thoroughly investigating the issue in question we have now cancelled the vote triggered by the mentioned EVE Online pilot and your CEO role should have been restored. In order for us to do please be aware one of our Game Master (GM Grave) temporary joined your Corporation and modified the number of corporation shares available. This will not in any way affect the Corporation and was only required in order for us to intervene.
Additionally to the above we have also taken extra steps to avoid similar issues occurring again with the parties involved.
We would also like to bring to your attention to take extra care when appointing directors, especially if the player is an EVE Pilot. Corporation Management, EVE side, is much more elaborated than in DUST 514 and Directors, as well as CEO do have a lot more features available to them, some of which can be used in some ways to take over corporations.
Please be on the lookout for further communications on this matter as we will make a public announcement on this issue in the coming days via our official forums in order to clarify the mechanics, policies and our stance on this matter.
If you have any further issue please let us know.
Warm regards, GM Unicorn CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:48:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:While EVE (and now DUST) is all about the scamming and the cheating, it is just as much about smart play to protect yourself from the scamming an the cheating. CCP cares just as much about balancing this as they care about balancing weapons. This incident, as with the AWOXing incidents, shows that CCP does not accept scamming and cheating that does not have a counter. I am glad that CCP chose to step in and correct this situation. It did not meet the standards of Meta Game balance that we come to expect from CCP. Sort of an oops moment for them I expect. DonGÇÖt expect petitioning to work after they get proper messaging and counter measures in though. no you missed it they said they fixed and didnt i just lost the corp to the same guy after they stated they took steps to prevent that |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:18:00 -
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RAider Vherikor wrote:low genius wrote:Rasatsu wrote:TrueXer0z wrote:You got ****ed out of your corp due to the inability to assign shares from the dust client.
Good luck man. I hope you get your corp back. This is not your fault either. The fault relies in a broken system between the eve and dust corp UIs. The fault lays with the OP, not the system. If they had done the obvious thing and read up some more on corp safety it clearly says on pretty much every guide to secure the shares. They didn't even seem to know about shares, yet entrusted their corp CEO role to someone. exactly. which part of "the most back-stabbing cutthroat videogame in the world" was misleading? Makes me wonder why GMs got involved at all... and why they assumed it was an exploit when clearly it is not. it is an exploit because they took advantage of a serious flaw in the lack of programing in the dust 514 mechanics |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:09:00 -
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here's why this is unfair and an exploit you can go on blah blah blahing trying to defend why you (jihad) and raider are not class a ho bags going on about how we had other eve pilots who is and yada yada yada when nano cleric who has years of eve experience didn't know what happened because as CCP null arbor stated the dust CEO has control over the shares in their corp till an eve pilot is CEO even for a brief period those shares become public and there is no way that any one would know this this doesn't eve happen in eve once someone has control of share they have those share in eve there is no poor programing that is so obscure that just takes already allocated shares away so that the next ho bag can take them and that's why ccp has been intervening |
Vala Prime
DUST CORE
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:11:00 -
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Vala Prime wrote:here's why this is unfair and an exploit you can go on blah blah blahing trying to defend why you (jihad) and raider are not class a ho bags going on about how we had other eve pilots who is and yada yada yada when nano cleric who has years of eve experience didn't know what happened because as CCP null arbor stated the dust CEO has control over the shares in their corp till an eve pilot is CEO even for a brief period those shares become public and there is no way that any one would know this this doesn't happen in eve once someone has control of share they have those share in eve there is no poor programing that is so obscure that just takes already allocated shares away so that the next ho bag can take them and that's why ccp has been intervening
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Vala Prime
DUST CORE
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:40:00 -
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Aeladon Leiko wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:The only way this happens is if you assign CEO of your corp to an EVE player. Even if they give the CEO title back they could have taken shares during their stay which gives them power to boot the current CEO using voting. It seems this is becoming increasingly common and confusing people so we will add a warning about it when you resign from CEO.
The shares and voting system is complicated and we purposefully did not include any of this in DUST. However once you have a mixed corporation you need to understand the implications of having both games involved. i hate to say this without testing it now but unless a change has been made in the last 3 months with regards to the way shares function you are 100% wrong. and i know it for a fact. all you need to take shares is be made a director. the director can then assign shares out of the wallet to him self. their is NOTHING dust side that can be done about this. its always worked like this. you need to check this out Null. and you are also right when an eve corp is made the share are public and can be taken by anyone that is ceo director or an accountant but once those share are allocated they can not be taken away unlees that share holder gives away his shares or all other share holders vote majority to remove those share. how ever in a dust made corp accoring to ccp nullarbor all shares are pre allocated to the ceo so that even a eve director can not touch them (its in his post) unless a eve pilot is made ceo such as to enter an alliance at such time the share are stripe from the dust player and made public for any eve pilot to get with out dust players able to do anything they can not even allocate the shares to someone else prior to switching with a eve pilot to prevent this from happening as well |
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Vala Prime
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:51:00 -
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I remember all to well. I hope people read and learn from this |
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