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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2812
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:58:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:I would go with Sanshas Nation. Maybe the Blood Raiders. Then you shall be hunted.... or doing some hunting yourself. |

Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
191
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:58:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:True Adamance wrote: Ha you should look around New Eden.
We are the only things holding back half the Sani Sabik Cults from Empire space.
But manage to allow a cult of crazed cyborgs in empire systems lol  They use advanced wormhole tech to breach systems, currently no empire can match the sanshas nation for their power and their capacity to strike where and when they wish. Neither can the Gallente, MInmatar, or Caldari stop them. I put my money on Jove (whatever their status is currently) I think the Jove went the way of the Asgard, sure there is something about it in one of the books we've mentioned previously. but then no one really knows for sure. But i guess the Amarr did do one thing right, reverse engineered the implant to allow for us mercs  oh and Jamyl Sarum is pretty hot, but don't let minmatar wife see this....
The Jove (non sleeping Sleepers) are all dead. Last one went the way of the Dodo about 4 years ago. Some still 'live' in the matrix tho. |

Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1599
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:58:00 -
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Goro Scornshard wrote:Don't go thinking that the Gallente are all sweetness and light, check out the Two Deaths chronicle on EVElopedia
I don't know that many nationalistic societies will be able to avoid finding severe ways to punish treason. Let's say you avoid treasonous behavior -- is Gallente society sweetness and light then? |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
576
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:00:00 -
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And now we have at the topic as old as time.
Philosophy.
Who decides what is right and wrong? Who decides wich race is better? Why? Why not? |

DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1695
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:01:00 -
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The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. |

Satja Askarin
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:01:00 -
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First Prophet wrote: So aside from being a coward you also betrayed your tribe. Nevermind what I said, clearly you were meant to be born an Amarr.
Betrayed the Matari? No.
I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar. |

Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
191
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:05:00 -
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Satja Askarin wrote:First Prophet wrote: So aside from being a coward you also betrayed your tribe. Nevermind what I said, clearly you were meant to be born an Amarr.
Betrayed the Matari? No. I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar.
You mean the Nefantar right? |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2691
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:08:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. People are beginning to catch on! Very excellent description, Marauder. |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1175
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:09:00 -
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Satja Askarin wrote:First Prophet wrote: So aside from being a coward you also betrayed your tribe. Nevermind what I said, clearly you were meant to be born an Amarr.
Betrayed the Matari? No. I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar. You do realize the main reason of the original defection from the Nefantar who were the Anmatar was to protect the remnants of the Starkmanir tribe? So follow your brothers and sisters and come join in the Republic again. |

Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
301
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:11:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Satja Askarin wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Enslaving, expansionist, religious zealots? The Amarr empire is by far the worst. We clothe and feed our slaves, we love and care for them as no one else in this vast cluster would, or could. Slave collars don't count as clothes, and killing the ones who don't agree is not love. Amarr are the only truely evil race. Down with the Amarr. Killing? Collar? What are you people talking about? As a former slave I saw none of these things. We were at times expected to behave a certain way, but Iesa III was and still is a harsh planet to live on. Slaves are not beaten, nor are we ridiculed, or belittled. My masters were good ones, but they are now dead. My new master however is a kind man, sometimes harsh, but his stresses are many. Evil? That's silly, the Amarr are not evil. They helped me get away from a culture of violence and savagery. Didn't know the Reclaimed were allowed to speak with those outside the Empire. It is the Holders decision. Her Holder obviously puts enough trust in her. |
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1175
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:12:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is.
But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. |

Christiphoros von Poe
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:14:00 -
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The Jove are still alive and in physical space... They are just extreme isolationists. Most of their race is in suspended animation though. Honestly, if it wasn't for the Jovian Disease, they could wipe out all 4 factions. The main priority for the Jove is finding a cure for their disease, not starting wars or expanding their space. |

Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
762
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:16:00 -
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Gallente **** is the best.
Verifiable fact. Look up Holoreels.
Just saying it's a fact that a rational person may wish to know when deciding. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2812
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:20:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Satja Askarin wrote:First Prophet wrote: So aside from being a coward you also betrayed your tribe. Nevermind what I said, clearly you were meant to be born an Amarr.
Betrayed the Matari? No. I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar. You mean the Nefantar right? They are the Ammatar now. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2812
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:20:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. You know nothing "False" Prophet |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Satja Askarin wrote:First Prophet wrote: So aside from being a coward you also betrayed your tribe. Nevermind what I said, clearly you were meant to be born an Amarr.
Betrayed the Matari? No. I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar. You mean the Nefantar right? They are the Ammatar now. The ones who didn't defect back the Republic like was planned are. |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. You know nothing "False" Prophet No. YOU know nothing, Jon Snow.
Or should I say, Fake Admanananance. For I have not seen the truth. I have spoken to it. The Rust has shown the way. |

Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
192
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:30:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:The Jove are still alive and in physical space... They are just extreme isolationists. Most of their race is in suspended animation though. Honestly, if it wasn't for the Jovian Disease, they could wipe out all 4 factions. The main priority for the Jove is finding a cure for their disease, not starting wars or expanding their space.
Sorry bud, but actual living, breathing, intractable Jove are dead, the EVE canon book Templar One confirms it.
There are billions in stasis, 'living' in a virtual world they constructed in hopes to stave off extinction. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2812
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:32:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. You know nothing "False" Prophet No. YOU know nothing, Jon Snow. Or should I say, Fake Admanananance. For I have seen the truth. I have spoken to it. The Rust has shown the way.
Heretic |

Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
301
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:36:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Goro Scornshard wrote:Don't go thinking that the Gallente are all sweetness and light, check out the Two Deaths chronicle on EVElopedia I don't know that many nationalistic societies will be able to avoid finding severe ways to punish treason. Let's say you avoid treasonous behavior -- is Gallente society sweetness and light then? No not really. The Federation is filled with drugs, crime, and racism. They also attacked the Caldari for seceding for ~100 years. The only reason they stopped attacking the Caldari, was because the Amarr made contact with the Gallente. You see, the Caldari wanted peace, and the Gallente knew they couldn't fight a war on two fronts, so they made peace with the Caldari and turned the Matari against the Amarr to weaken them, because they knew they also couldn't take on the Amarr by them selves.
Basically, Gallente and Caldari were friends, until Gallente started being a bad friend, and Caldari wanted out of the relationship. Gallente then bullied Caldari for not being their friend, until big strong Amarr showed up and scared Gallente, who whispered lies into the ears of Amarr's friend Matari, and turned them against one another. The Gallente are the truly evil ones IMHO. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2702
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:56:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. Incorrect, many of the Minmatar home worlds lacked vital infrastructure such as an adequate amount of schools and sanitary hospitals before the Amarr helped them out. |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2702
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:01:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote: Basically, Gallente and Caldari were friends, until Gallente started being a bad friend, and Caldari wanted out of the relationship. Gallente then bullied Caldari for not being their friend, until big strong Amarr showed up and scared Gallente, who whispered lies into the ears of Amarr's friend Matari, and turned them against one another. The Gallente are the truly evil ones IMHO.
+1
This is exactly what I've been telling everyone! The Gallente are my most disliked faction because they are the great manipulators and starter of wars. Had the Gallente just accepted that the Caldari wished to part from the Federation, then Caldari State would have lived in peace with no war and the Minmatar would of never turned on the Amarr, who both would of also continued to live on in peace. But no, the Gallente can't handle losing such a large nation from their Federation so start war with them, then use the Minmatar as tools when things start to look grim. |

Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1599
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:06:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Goro Scornshard wrote:Don't go thinking that the Gallente are all sweetness and light, check out the Two Deaths chronicle on EVElopedia I don't know that many nationalistic societies will be able to avoid finding severe ways to punish treason. Let's say you avoid treasonous behavior -- is Gallente society sweetness and light then? No not really. The Federation is filled with drugs, crime, and racism. They also attacked the Caldari for seceding for ~100 years. The only reason they stopped attacking the Caldari, was because the Amarr made contact with the Gallente. You see, the Caldari wanted peace, and the Gallente knew they couldn't fight a war on two fronts, so they made peace with the Caldari and turned the Matari against the Amarr to weaken them, because they knew they also couldn't take on the Amarr by them selves. Basically, Gallente and Caldari were friends, until Gallente started being a bad friend, and Caldari wanted out of the relationship. Gallente then bullied Caldari for not being their friend, until big strong Amarr showed up and scared Gallente, who whispered lies into the ears of Amarr's friend Matari, and turned them against one another. The Gallente are the truly evil ones IMHO.
History is not the same as the present... |

R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
452
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:06:00 -
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Amarrians, without a doubt! Why?
Because they are religious fundamentalists who believe planets are flat. And yes, that's despite them flying around and actually seeing ROUND planets. They are that fanatically stupid.
They are also going way over the top with all that gold, it's blinding other races.
Slavery...'nough said.
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:True Adamance wrote:First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. You know nothing "False" Prophet No. YOU know nothing, Jon Snow. Or should I say, Fake Admanananance. For I have seen the truth. I have spoken to it. The Rust has shown the way. Heretic Nerd. |

Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1599
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:10:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:This is exactly what I've been telling everyone! The Gallente are my most disliked faction because they are the great manipulators and starter of wars. Had the Gallente just accepted that the Caldari wished to part from the Federation, then Caldari State would have lived in peace with no war and the Minmatar would of never turned on the Amarr, who both would of also continued to live on in peace. But no, the Gallente can't handle losing such a large nation from their Federation so start war with them, then use the Minmatar as tools when things start to look grim.
Again, still talking about history.
The Earth had countries that started wars with others and then were able to be accepted back into the world community. I don't think starting a war counts as truly evil.
That is reserved for those that impose ideology or lack of freedom on others. |

Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
192
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:10:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Amarrians, without a doubt! Why?
Because they are religious fundamentalists who believe planets are flat. And yes, that's despite them flying around and actually seeing ROUND planets. They are that fanatically stupid.
They are also going way over the top with all that gold, it's blinding other races.
Slavery...'nough said.
Amarrians are nearly always the leaders in technology, only second to the Caldari on occasions (nationalistic hive-mind ftw!)
First to rediscover space flight after the EVE gate collapsed and all that fun stuff.
Also, real world application, gold is one of the most resilient metals in low temperature/pressure systems, making why the amarr ships are plated in gold not just to make them pretty, but to make them more durable. |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:11:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. Incorrect, many of the Minmatar home worlds lacked vital infrastructure such as an adequate amount of schools and sanitary hospitals before the Amarr helped them out. Or so your amarrian indoctrination would lead you to believe? You think you helped out by destroying what we had and making us slaves? No. We were fine as we were. We never asked for your "help", nor did we want it. Nor was it helpful in the slightest. |

First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Basically, Gallente and Caldari were friends, until Gallente started being a bad friend, and Caldari wanted out of the relationship. Gallente then bullied Caldari for not being their friend, until big strong Amarr showed up and scared Gallente, who whispered lies into the ears of Amarr's friend Matari, and turned them against one another. The Gallente are the truly evil ones IMHO.
+1 This is exactly what I've been telling everyone! The Gallente are my most disliked faction because they are the great manipulators and starter of wars. Had the Gallente just accepted that the Caldari wished to part from the Federation, then Caldari State would have lived in peace with no war and the Minmatar would of never turned on the Amarr, who both would of also continued to live on in peace. But no, the Gallente can't handle losing such a large nation from their Federation so start war with them, then use the Minmatar as tools when things start to look grim. The Gallente did not manipulate us. They gave us an opportunity to earn back our freedom and we did. The Amarr are the great evil. Never forget the day of darkness. |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2703
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:15:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:First Prophet wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.
This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing. If by enlighten, you mean indoctrinate. You know where else we had housing, education, health, and work? In the beautiful peaceful land of Matar. Until the Amarr came that is. But you're right about freedom gained through hard work. And we Matari will work hard to free all our brothers and sisters who have been enslaved. Down with the Amarr. Incorrect, many of the Minmatar home worlds lacked vital infrastructure such as an adequate amount of schools and sanitary hospitals before the Amarr helped them out. Or so your amarrian indoctrination would lead you to believe? You think you helped out by destroying what we had and making us slaves? No. We were fine as we were. We never asked for your "help", nor did we want it. Nor was it helpful in the slightest. You'd like this chronicle, https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Man_of_Values_and_Faith_(Chronicle) Because no matter how much good the Amarr do for the Minmatar, surely we must be the evil oppressors that is ingrained so deeply in your beliefs. |
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