We clothe and feed our slaves, we love and care for them as no one else in this vast cluster would, or could.

Killing?

Collar?

What are you people talking about?

As a former slave I saw none of these things. We were at times expected to behave a certain way, but Iesa III was and still is a harsh planet to live on. Slaves are not beaten, nor are we ridiculed, or belittled. My masters were good ones, but they are now dead. My new master however is a kind man, sometimes harsh, but his stresses are many.

Evil? That's silly, the Amarr are not evil. They helped me get away from a culture of violence and savagery.

Betrayed the Matari? No.

I followed the examples of our brothers and sisters the Ammatar.

The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.

This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing.

You know nothing "False" Prophet

The only reason you view the amarr as evil is because you see "slavery" and immediately assume "mistreating" "harsh" "disrespect" and harmful acts upon those lines.

This is not true. We of the amarr respect our slaves. We don't mistreat them but rather enlighten them. We give them housing, education, health, work. So that they may live a truly righteous life. For freedom gained through hard work is more meaningful than meaningless freedom gained through nothing.

Incorrect, many of the Minmatar home worlds lacked vital infrastructure such as an adequate amount of schools and sanitary hospitals before the Amarr helped them out.

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This is exactly what I've been telling everyone! The Gallente are my most disliked faction because they are the great manipulators and starter of wars. Had the Gallente just accepted that the Caldari wished to part from the Federation, then Caldari State would have lived in peace with no war and the Minmatar would of never turned on the Amarr, who both would of also continued to live on in peace. But no, the Gallente can't handle losing such a large nation from their Federation so start war with them, then use the Minmatar as tools when things start to look grim.

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This is exactly what I've been telling everyone! The Gallente are my most disliked faction because they are the great manipulators and starter of wars. Had the Gallente just accepted that the Caldari wished to part from the Federation, then Caldari State would have lived in peace with no war and the Minmatar would of never turned on the Amarr, who both would of also continued to live on in peace. But no, the Gallente can't handle losing such a large nation from their Federation so start war with them, then use the Minmatar as tools when things start to look grim.

The term "Minmatar Scum" as used by the more aggressive sects of Amarrian loyalists actually refers to the renegade agent of corporations supporting the separatist agenda. The common Matari people who do not fight are the people we would welcome with open arms.

First Prophet, the Amarr don't believe the Minmatar are scum at all! We are freeing many Minmatar into the Amarr Empire every day and welcome them with wide arms!

Also your statement sounded silly because of how forced you made it. The Amarr are the real friends of the Minmatar, just look at all we've done for you. .

The term "Minmatar Scum" as used by the more aggressive sects of Amarrian loyalists actually refers to the renegade agent of corporations supporting the separatist agenda. The common Matari people who do not fight are the people we would welcome with open arms.

As someone who didn't come from EVE I don't know much more about the racial lore than is provided in Dust, but the most self-centered of all the races is pretty clearly spelled out as Amarr.

They take what they want because its their deity given right and duty to do so.


With that said I had to rally behind minmatar, as they seem to fight for [i]something that matters,[/i ]what had been denied them by their oppressors/owners.

There is no point trying to convince people who have no intention of listening, or arriving at a logical conclusion.

There is no point trying to convince people who have no intention of listening, or arriving at a logical conclusion.

How would you, you do not have access to the Mandate, you don't not have access to any amarrian works towards development of Matari culture, you are a merc with no concept of how anything outside your own empire works.

How would you, you do not have access to the Mandate, you don't not have access to any amarrian works towards development of Matari culture, you are a merc with no concept of how anything outside your own empire works.

And look, as for vitoc, that is a great example of a flaw with the Amarr. I will be the first to admit that that's just not right. But all the races have equally disturbing flaws. Still, Vitoc usage isn't very widespread at all, and is really only seen onboard spacecrafts where the crew needs orderly cooperation of all individuals. Again, not saying that that makes it right, but it is not a method used by the large majority of slave holders.

Just as the Federation as a whole decided to invade Caldari? Why aren't you putting this much effort into arguing that case then?

Look, the Amarr Empire expanded it's reach just as the Federation has. We assimilate those we find and bring up their living conditions just as the Federation has. So why is one some monstrous oppressor, while the other is your "best friend?"

The issue of the MInmatar actually really has nothing to do with the Minmatar as the Amarr see it.....sort of. We consider you a people in revolt and already ours

List of Evil Empires in Order of Evilness

1. Amarr Empire
2. The Legion of Doom

No bias at all, I promise

You should take the number one slot on the list of evilness for fabricating ones own words to pursue your own agenda!

Except the Amarr aren't oppressors, I mean unless you consider providing schools and hospitals, food and shelter, oppressing. But I understand you only know what it told to you in Dust, so it makes sense that you would come to this conclusion.

Except First Prophet has no clue what he's talking about. Keep making up ridiculous lies and maybe people will start to believe them?

Ha you should look around New Eden.

We are the only things holding back half the Sani Sabik Cults from Empire space.

Those are the really bad people. Fanatics with no sense of a forgiving God, who would happily blood children and clones for their barbaric and debased rituals, those who would affect your minds with implants and technologies to make you a part of the Hive Mind.

We clothe and feed our slaves, we love and care for them as no one else in this vast cluster would, or could. We try to educate our peoples to the right paths, to make them whole in God's eyes so that they shall not sin against their creator and damn their selves for eternity.

Shall I bring up the extremist Caldari who bombed an underwater Gallentean city, killing Billions.

Sansha's Nation who take captives to the Darkest regions of space to do god knows what.

Shall I mention the lawless Angel Cartel, so deep in corruption and murder that they cannot see the light.

And you wish to call us, who wish only the best of intentions, the unity of mankind, and the formations of One galaxy spanning people are evil. You are ignorant and have no knowledge of the universe. I can only hope one day the Matari see that and cast you out as you deserve.

I still cannot understand why people bring their scepticism and hatred of religion from RL into a game, nor do I understand this eras inherent mistrust and dislike of people who wan to believe their is something more in their lives than the utterly depressing and generally horrible arms of humanity they deal with.