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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
1532
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Posted - 2013.09.25 19:41:00 -
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A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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RECON BY FIRE
Internal Rebellion
244
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Posted - 2013.09.25 19:53:00 -
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In before "I was in spec/black ops".
Former US Army, 45B/19D.
Doesn't really seem to translate too much to Dust. I seem to find myself flanking more than the usual "hey theres the objective" blueberry I guess. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
317
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Posted - 2013.09.25 19:54:00 -
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Well, I've got a mate that serves in the army (Irish) He plays dust in his time off I've noticed that he tends to do more planning than the average dust bunny. I still wipe the floor with him, but I reckon he'd make a much better leader than me ingame. (And know for a fact he does in the big bad world) In fact, he does, bossing me around and the like. (But hey, it works, so I follow and plod along in my scout suit) 'Course, could just be him, it's a small sample size after all. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
85
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:10:00 -
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Shipmate :)
IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar.
What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
785
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:17:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story!
Ex-Chairforce AKA U.S. Airforce back when F4 was the be all plane. Back when UNODIR and BOHICA were just being coined.
As far as translating to video games? Story later may involve a monkey killing run. |
howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
771
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Posted - 2013.09.25 20:30:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! Oh Mintchip! I have a newfound fondness for you Shipmate!
20 years USN. Retired Chief Hospital Corpsman, Independent Duty trained, 10yrs with 1stMarDiv & 3rd MAW....most of the rest with NavalMedicalCenterSanDiego...where I continue to work serving our military young and old
Fair Winds, Following Seas and all that jazz |
BatKing Deltor
Granite Mercenary Division
188
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:14:00 -
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I got 2 in my corp that are canadian army out on deployment. had many fun matches with them. theyll be back in roughly... 6 to 7 months. |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:36:00 -
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USMC 1983-1987 |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
788
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:10:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:USMC 1983-1987 2nd Marine AirWing Ground Support Equipment Hydraulicsman
I remember when an Airman Basic was powering up a -60 to spool up my F4s engines. The problem was the RPM limiter on the -60 was defective and the -60 went way past the one hundred thousand RPM limit on the turbine.
Story later.
Yes the F-4 blew up.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
571
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:36:00 -
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The only thing I think they benefit in video gaming from having prior military experience is cooperation and teamwork. You'd be surprised just how well organized a bunch of ex military are in games like ARMA II&III. While a typical gamer will just run out guns ablaze, they would setup a perimeter defense and relay any intel they could with each other keeping constant communication.
Dust is pretty arcadey, you could play it drunk ffs. |
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
12
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Posted - 2013.09.26 00:01:00 -
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I was in the Air Force for six years and worked in Security Forces. Got out a few years ago to start college. Had the fun of traveling from Robins to Iraq and then Germany for a little. For my play style and what I can translate to the game I get the most out of skirmishes and pretty much any battle mode that has some relation to it. A lot of flanking, tactical reloads, pieing the corners, suppressive fire and breaching tactics are used plenty. That combined with my natural sneaky tendencies go a long way lol. There is a noticeable difference between military and regular players. They are usually either more tactical or extremely aggressive in using suppressive fire and flanking. Don't really notice any disadvantages so far. |
Teeee Bone
C0M8AT V3T3RANS
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 00:19:00 -
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I was army infantry. Seen extensive combat in Operation Iraqi Freedom 2. Can't compare real combat to dust combat. No respawn in real life. The only thing I notice is I plan more then most. I've created a corp for all combat veterans if anyone is interested. No mic necessary.. C0M8AT V3T3RANS is the corp. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
205
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Posted - 2013.09.26 00:24:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story!
Former sailor here as well. I was an airdale, ABH2. Served 2 1/2 years in GTMO back in 99, and 2 years aboard the Abe Lincoln. I've been out now longer than I was in though. Still miss it a bit.. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
354
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Posted - 2013.09.26 01:04:00 -
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o7 to all of you. Thank you for serving your country. No matter what country it was/is, you are a true hero to someone out there :)
o7 |
Mik3 H0nch0
DUST University Ivy League
39
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:39:00 -
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11 year member of the chair force. 2M0X1 here, the biggest thing for me is that I follow directions to a tee when I'm in a squad. No real combat experience on my part. My only deployment I was in the back towing and loading JDAMs, which might explain why I take to Logi...in the rear with the gear. |
Raz Sidona
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
33
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:56:00 -
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Currently serving In the US Army Reserve. 12W and i do feel it gives me an edge in tactics but i lack the skills to execute them sadly |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
101
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:12:00 -
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Active duty Army officer for 16+ yrs mostly in reconnaissance and surveillance and some in other activities. I've had several Iraq and Afghanistan tours.
My corp also has a very small core (no pun intended) of retired or current military with similar backgrounds. We do tend to have plan initial actions and contingencies extensively and find ourselves talking in tactical short hand. We organize teams for capabilities and specific mission sets by personnel and equipment they carry and dynamically retask this on the fly. Generally, at least those in our Corp, are significantly less interested in our KDR than our victory tally even in pub matches.
From a macro perspective I automatically start looking at FW and PC in terms of target sets, center of gravity analysis, actions to shape the tactical and strategic situation, and opportunities to secure additional capabilities or combat power in the form of allies.
In corp, we have have a pretty robust training activity and are continually looking for different tactics, techniques, and procedures. (TTPs) I do find myself often directly applying TTPs from my day job throw ideas around...particualry in combined arms integration...using ground troops, dropships, HAV/LAVs in a synchronized and synergistic fashion. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
426
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:27:00 -
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I was a software developer in the US Air Force. I'm also a special ops washout. So...hooray me? |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
960
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:40:00 -
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One of the guys in Zion (back when I was a part of that corp) was from the military.
He kept asking us what we were doing, where we were going, what's the plan, what objective are we focusing on...
Some people thought he was annoying, but I liked having him in the squad since I always kept constant communication with everyone. The sad part is, not everyone likes being told what to do so I stopped being squad leader, eventually left Zion, and then became a lone wolf.
I do my own things now, and would rather just support players in their efforts (logi FTW) than try and win myself. Whether I win or not depends on the organization of my team and how well they can kill the enemy without dying. As long as they stay on the battlefield long enough for me to rep/revive/replenish, I always find myself being successful.
At the same time, I know that most players are the "rush in guns blazing" kind of players instead of smart players with tactics, so I use the scanner to let me get the upper hand on them.
Either way, I may not have been trained in the army, or have any experience with guns in real life, but I still try and play this game like a game. Besides, most matches don't last long enough for any real tactics to be used, or for enough time to slowly assault a base. In real life you use whatever it takes to win, and you don't complain about someone's gun being better than yours. It's why I like games like this because you have a variety of options and not just "use an automatic weapon to kill people". |
Slender Night
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
8
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Posted - 2013.09.26 05:40:00 -
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Just want to thank all the men and women who have or are serving. The reason we are free to play great games like this is because of your guys sacrifices. You guys ALL deserve recognition. Thanks again guys. |
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
65
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Posted - 2013.09.26 06:26:00 -
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U.S. Air Force. I use alot of my training and military knowledge in dust actually. Only problem is it put me at a disadvantage when playing with people without military training, because they don't know what I'm doing or what they should be doing. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4286
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Posted - 2013.09.26 06:45:00 -
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Former United states air force.
Pharmacy technician. 314th Medical Support.
What? Do you have any idea how much military training I went through to dispense pills? |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1315
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:14:00 -
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USMC, machinegunner. The knowledge of how to deploy man-portable heavy weapons has served me very well in my personal mission to obliterate vehicles in the game. And eat people in CQC. The Chromosome build was paradise for anyone with aggressive military training, bluntly.
Served On Camp Pendleton with 14 months of sea time.
In uprising expecting the weapons to behave in a familiar fashion is more or less pointless.
The only thing I seem to do really well is squad lead, and on one occasion FC'd a battle in PC and we won before we got bored with PC. |
Dante Kretschmer
D3LTA ACADEMY
89
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Posted - 2013.09.26 10:44:00 -
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I've met people in DF who are or were part of the US military, and that's why I enjoy playing with them, we are better organized, communicate a lot, and respect leadership. Teamwork. Actual pew pew experience comes from other shooters. |
Foxhound Elite
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
363
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:11:00 -
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Somebody get Jin t'anith in here, he has quite the military history ... |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1436
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 -
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US Army Reserve, retired. Reserve just meant I had two full time jobs. I wasn't a field guy but I had a part in all the conflicts since 1988. My skills don't translate to anything we have in DUST, yet. Maybe someday they will. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
218
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:09:00 -
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USN 97-01 ABH3 (Aviation Boatswain's Mate) AW Stationed on the USS George Washington CVN-73 (Aircraft carrier), based out of Norfolk, VA.
I had the unfortunate opportunity to witness the destruction on 9/11 firsthand. Our battle group was already out doing Cert Ops when we got the call to go. We weren't allowed to go into the harbor because we were a nuclear propulsion vessel and there were still unknown risks/paranoia, so we stayed just outside and conducted Air Ops.
Anyway, other than being a pretty good leader, my being in the Navy doesn't offer much assistance when it comes to Dust. There are no jets...yet. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
246
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:30:00 -
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Well, my corporation (SMERG) formed in EVE in late 2007 after a bunch of guys from my unit (3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment) got back from our second tour in Iraq. We had quite a few of us all banding together, TOTAL noobs, trying to be "mercenaries" in the ruthless world of EVE Online. There was Fightback, Shhaazam, Lowlanderbean, Rakkinechew, Dr1ftw00d, 8inferno8, P-rez. We ended up recruiting a few guys we met online that happened to be in the Army, Tiwatz, Reg'nar, etc etc, and we would bust each other's balls about the branches we were in.
I still have a ton of former and active duty guys in my corporation, along with some of those silver-spoon college-kiddy bastards, but sadly most of my old unit buddies have moved on to other games or otherwise dropped off my radar. It's always awesome to recruit a guy in Dust that has some form of military background, even if I sort of find myself rapidly becoming the old dude that used to be in and can't entirely relate to the active duty guys in their first enlistment anymore lol. |
Cpl Foster USMC
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
220
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:32:00 -
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United States Marine Corps 1991-1996/2001-2002
3521 Automotive Organizational Technician 3522 Automotive Intermediate Mechanic 3531 Motor Vehicle Operator 3533 Logistics Vehicle System Operator 3536 Vehicle Recovery Operator
yes, I was a walking, talking one person maintenance shop....
and I find that I flank more than the usual blu-berry... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:15:00 -
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Active duty Marine Corps Stinger Gunner....so I'm real life AV yo. In regards to swarm launchers: should they be able to 2-hit kill dropships- absolutely Should it be as easy as it is- no
I don't feel it gives me a huge advantage, really. I do read the flow of battle and understand squad tactics better than most, but it isn't a game changer for me...I think.
Really, I just apply the basics of fire and maneuver to everything and it works. Also, former military guys seem to have much better radio discipline in PC than those who do not.
We also tend to be better squad leaders and FCs BC we keep our cool and can make decisions faster and without second guessing ourselves. We need to make a military chat channel. |
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WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
33
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Posted - 2013.09.26 17:30:00 -
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11B / 92A USArmy served 6 yrs cross mos OEF OIF Veteran. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1723
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Posted - 2013.09.26 18:22:00 -
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i tell you nothing... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1723
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Posted - 2013.09.26 18:27:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Shipmate :)
IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar.
What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much. i hate that word almost as much as the lazy Os we had.
ossn to osc 8 year... worse chief on board and made fun of by everyone. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:30:00 -
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So....lance4lyfe
That's all I gotta say.
Man, a lot of y'all are salt dogs. Where my lance criminals at? /x\ |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:54:00 -
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ladwar wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Shipmate :)
IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar.
What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much. i hate that word almost as much as the lazy Os we had. ossn to osc 8 year... worse chief on board and made fun of by everyone.
Are you saying you made OSC in 8, or are you talking about a Goat f**ker everyone hated. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
2720
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Posted - 2013.09.26 20:14:00 -
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I just took the asvab and scored a 96. I am going into the Airforce and waiting to go to meps then basic training. |
Creed Varacus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 20:39:00 -
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Hell yeah. Army Infantry Here. 11 Bang Bang!
As for if it helps advantage wise, not really sure, I find myself taking pretty straightforward routes and spending what seems like half the time flanking, and I am always spasmadic, so I look around allot and stay pretty aware. The only disadvantage is when I go into a building and I clear one side and I wrongly think that my teammates will clear the other side, but they never do, so I get ninja killed that way allot cause I forget to check.
As for dropsuit fitting, at first I was all assault, but the Army always taught me versatility is key and be sure to always use the equipment at hand. So I mostly use Logistic Dropsuits with allot of Remote Explosives to hold points and blow them when the enemy is about to take them. (A **** move, but damn effective.) I have also seemed to gotten really good at avoiding vehicles.
Anyway, back to bringing glory to the Republic!
Climb to Glory! 10th Mountain! |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1726
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:10:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:ladwar wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Shipmate :)
IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar.
What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much. i hate that word almost as much as the lazy Os we had. ossn to osc 8 year... worse chief on board and made fun of by everyone. Are you saying you made OSC in 8, or are you talking about a Goat f**ker everyone hated. no i made 2nd and then left. but the guy who made OSC looked like a goat f-er. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
879
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:20:00 -
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U.S Chair Force 1998-2002. Command and Control operator. My experience has not helped me in any way be a better Duster. Though, if there were a command suit... Perhaps I could command and control! |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
221
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:40:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I just took the asvab and scored a 96. I am going into the Airforce and waiting to go to meps then basic training.
Great choice, bro. While I loved the Navy, if I had to do it all over again, I would probably go Air Force. Just saying...
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Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
348
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:41:00 -
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US Army '97-06 both active (1st) then Guard. Germany, Africa, a couple trips in and around the sandbox.
Started as a 91B (combat medic at the time) Ended as a recon asset/designated marksman for a stinger unit retooled to infantry. Official mos 31R (commo, not sure what the new designator is)
My corp (all 8 of us) is all current or prior service members.
I'm terrible at this game so any real world "skills" don't really apply for me. Though I would say we have better radio discipline as a whole (mil types).
I seem to remember reading something earlier about a story involving monkeys though... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1024
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:11:00 -
[42] - Quote
General John Ripper wrote:I just took the asvab and scored a 96. I am going into the Airforce and waiting to go to meps then basic training.
Good. The airforce is nice to you....not like the Corps.... /x\ |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8967
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:13:00 -
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US Navy Veteran, fixed airplane electronics and ran around like a chicken with his head cut off on the flight deck, at night. Scary place I'll tell you.
VFA 27 With CAG -5 Aboard USS Kitty Hawk VFA 97 on special detachment duty (something about a marine general making a bet with a navy admiral...) VFA 102 x2 (training from F-18 hornets to rhinos) FRC-W Lemoore. Reserves (about 6 more months to totalling 12 years of service)
As far as how my knowledge learned in the navy and how it applies to Dust 514 is not as well rooted as the ones I have about Eve Online. So many other games talks about war this war that and yet most fail to realize, war is hard, war is expensive, and war is easy to break. Eve Online captures this perfectly and I have yet to see any game come close to this aspect, not even Planetside 2's gradious massive battles.
Dust 514 captures some of the spirit, for example the satisfaction of destroying expensive equipment knowing that you may set that guy back several matches. Losing your own said expensive equipment is just as hurtful. While Dust 514 is still growing I hope it will start to capture more of 'true war' from logistics to real people morale needs, from intel nets to cyno nets to bullets verses brains.
As for my own gameplay experiences... I think my navy mentality training is hurting me a bit. I take a bit too long looking at the situation and not doing enough responding at times.
Green Living wrote:U.S Chair Force 1998-2002. Command and Control operator. My experience has not helped me in any way be a better Duster. Though, if there were a command suit... Perhaps I could command and control!
Lol Kadina airmen being beat red was priceless. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1491
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:29:00 -
[44] - Quote
I was in the army for a while.. and practically nothing i learned there helps me in Dust 514. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
326
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:46:00 -
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It only makes them think they are better.
I have no qualms about the real world and I respect their balls and dedication. However in games, it matters little what you do in the real world. (Unless your a championship gamer) The guys that play more are most likely going to be better, have better reactions etc...
OLD pops from the war can bearly hear me sneaking up on him MUHAHA! KAboom! +50
Now as for strategy and other leadership qualities I am sure it DOES make a difference. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
326
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:US Navy Veteran, fixed airplane electronics and ran around like a chicken with his head cut off on the flight deck, at night. Scary place I'll tell you. VFA 27 With CAG -5 Aboard USS Kitty Hawk VFA 97 on special detachment duty (something about a marine general making a bet with a navy admiral...) VFA 102 x2 (training from F-18 hornets to rhinos) FRC-W Lemoore. Reserves (about 6 more months to totalling 12 years of service) As far as how my knowledge learned in the navy and how it applies to Dust 514 is not as well rooted as the ones I have about Eve Online. So many other games talks about war this war that and yet most fail to realize, war is hard, war is expensive, and war is easy to break. Eve Online captures this perfectly and I have yet to see any game come close to this aspect, not even Planetside 2's gradious massive battles. Dust 514 captures some of the spirit, for example the satisfaction of destroying expensive equipment knowing that you may set that guy back several matches. Losing your own said expensive equipment is just as hurtful. While Dust 514 is still growing I hope it will start to capture more of 'true war' from logistics to real people morale needs, from intel nets to cyno nets to bullets verses brains. As for my own gameplay experiences... I think my navy mentality training is hurting me a bit. I take a bit too long looking at the situation and not doing enough responding at times. Green Living wrote:U.S Chair Force 1998-2002. Command and Control operator. My experience has not helped me in any way be a better Duster. Though, if there were a command suit... Perhaps I could command and control! Lol Kadina airmen being beat red was priceless.
USS kitty hawk?
I assume you are a yank I am sorry I mean an immigrant? That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
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Kay High
KILL ORDERS
121
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:44:00 -
[47] - Quote
Mik3 H0nch0 wrote:11 year member of the chair force. 2M0X1 here, the biggest thing for me is that I follow directions to a tee when I'm in a squad. No real combat experience on my part. My only deployment I was in the back towing and loading JDAMs, which might explain why I take to Logi...in the rear with the gear. Missile Monkey :P 2M0X3 here. Served for two years before getting out.
In relation to Dust the military helped me understand that chain of command was paramount and constant communications. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:46:00 -
[48] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:US Navy Veteran, fixed airplane electronics and ran around like a chicken with his head cut off on the flight deck, at night. Scary place I'll tell you. VFA 27 With CAG -5 Aboard USS Kitty Hawk VFA 97 on special detachment duty (something about a marine general making a bet with a navy admiral...) VFA 102 x2 (training from F-18 hornets to rhinos) FRC-W Lemoore. Reserves (about 6 more months to totalling 12 years of service) As far as how my knowledge learned in the navy and how it applies to Dust 514 is not as well rooted as the ones I have about Eve Online. So many other games talks about war this war that and yet most fail to realize, war is hard, war is expensive, and war is easy to break. Eve Online captures this perfectly and I have yet to see any game come close to this aspect, not even Planetside 2's gradious massive battles. Dust 514 captures some of the spirit, for example the satisfaction of destroying expensive equipment knowing that you may set that guy back several matches. Losing your own said expensive equipment is just as hurtful. While Dust 514 is still growing I hope it will start to capture more of 'true war' from logistics to real people morale needs, from intel nets to cyno nets to bullets verses brains. As for my own gameplay experiences... I think my navy mentality training is hurting me a bit. I take a bit too long looking at the situation and not doing enough responding at times. Green Living wrote:U.S Chair Force 1998-2002. Command and Control operator. My experience has not helped me in any way be a better Duster. Though, if there were a command suit... Perhaps I could command and control! Lol Kadina airmen being beat red was priceless.
Fellow Tron, even the same platform. I heard horror stories about the ****** kitty, I was on the same keel, but mine had 8 reactors instead of the shower fragrancers. Even though we were on different coast, we probably know some of the same people.
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JieXi Bao
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
6 years USN. Cti. I rather doubt my language training has in any way pepared me for dust, but if i get on the Asia server, at least I might know what names I'm being called. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
548
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
I got a buddy who plays DUST sometimes who is part of America's National Guard. He was deployed out in Kuwait and went into Iraq.
This was before DUST though. He got injured in a chair that broke while playing CoD... |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9006
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:49:00 -
[51] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:US Navy Veteran, fixed airplane electronics and ran around like a chicken with his head cut off on the flight deck, at night. Scary place I'll tell you. VFA 27 With CAG -5 Aboard USS Kitty Hawk VFA 97 on special detachment duty (something about a marine general making a bet with a navy admiral...) VFA 102 x2 (training from F-18 hornets to rhinos) FRC-W Lemoore. Reserves (about 6 more months to totalling 12 years of service) As far as how my knowledge learned in the navy and how it applies to Dust 514 is not as well rooted as the ones I have about Eve Online. So many other games talks about war this war that and yet most fail to realize, war is hard, war is expensive, and war is easy to break. Eve Online captures this perfectly and I have yet to see any game come close to this aspect, not even Planetside 2's gradious massive battles. Dust 514 captures some of the spirit, for example the satisfaction of destroying expensive equipment knowing that you may set that guy back several matches. Losing your own said expensive equipment is just as hurtful. While Dust 514 is still growing I hope it will start to capture more of 'true war' from logistics to real people morale needs, from intel nets to cyno nets to bullets verses brains. As for my own gameplay experiences... I think my navy mentality training is hurting me a bit. I take a bit too long looking at the situation and not doing enough responding at times. Green Living wrote:U.S Chair Force 1998-2002. Command and Control operator. My experience has not helped me in any way be a better Duster. Though, if there were a command suit... Perhaps I could command and control! Lol Kadina airmen being beat red was priceless. USS kitty hawk? I assume you are a yank I am sorry I mean an immigrant? That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
"First in Flight" and the unoffical addeum of the entire battlegroup 'first on sight, first to fight,'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers
Same Desron, Same CAG, same captains, same allies lead the battle group being one of the most efficient in the US Navy I can't tell you how often our outdated crap kicked the ever living puke out of the other battle groups during our exercises.
Generally - Carriers are named after spirit of the nation, important events, and leaders Battleships after states Destroyers and Cruisers are named after locations or personnel from admirals to chiefs, only one set have ever been named after non chiefs the Solomons. |
Greiskind
Neo Terra Imperial Army Neo Terra Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:30:00 -
[52] - Quote
US Army Combat Engineer (Essayons!) '82-'87, Germany. Ready Reserve to '94. Can't dig tank ditches or blow big holes in the sides of buildings, so not a lot of active duty to Dust transfer of combat engineer skills. Although mines are occasionally useful.... Deployable infantry/vehicle obstacles in a future build would be interesting.
Comm chatter, paying attention to and following instructions of the SL, keeping the team informed, and taking a moment to "see the battlefield" abilities do transfer a bit. Thinking tactically instead of running in, guns a blazin'.
I don't know if it's a military thing, a RW team leader thing, or an old guy thing, but SL that haven't a clue annoy the kittens out of me. |
Falco Bombardi
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
18
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:51:00 -
[53] - Quote
Former Canadian Army Infantry Officer here.
DUST isn't exactly the most relevant use of my skills, but proper comms use and the concepts of firebases/flanking/suppression do make things a touch easier.
Ducimus! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9010
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:50:00 -
[54] - Quote
ratamaq doc wrote:
Fellow Tron, even the same platform. I heard horror stories about the ****** kitty, I was on the same keel, but mine had 8 reactors instead of the shower fragrancers. Even though we were on different coast, we probably know some of the same people.
Naw the Kitty Hawk was in class of her own brood consisting of herself and two sisters the Connie and JFK, it would have been called the Constellation Class but connie caught on fire and Kitty beat her out the docks.
Food was horrible but same can almost be said of every carrier about. Water was okay unless a fuel pipe busted, it was better than the red water from AU to the point we didn't bother drinking that and resorted to processed water products such as colas.
As for diesel boat she did fairly well, I mean she outlasted both of her sisters and a few nuclear carriers. As for accidents our rates were about the same as the fleet and rarely blamed on equipment failure though we have a few big ones, including one wire snap and loss bird. True though that you could probably take paint thinner to her and sink her that way. Last I heard she's retiring to some reserve yards there are folks still wanting her to be a museum as being the longest modern serving ship in the navy; an impossible fate for the recently retired USS Enterprise. Decommissioning her reactors would gut her completely unrecognizable. Nothing to fret the legacy will continue as the newest scheduled carrier is going to continue the name. The damn WW2 Enterprise was beaten from one side of hell to the other and almost participated in every major fight back then. |
MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY
Local Tankers 514
11
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Posted - 2013.09.28 05:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
USMC Combat Engineer SGT. 2003-2007 - Multiple combat tours.
How does this benefit me in Dust 514?
Flanking.... Flanking everywhere. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:
Fellow Tron, even the same platform. I heard horror stories about the ****** kitty, I was on the same keel, but mine had 8 reactors instead of the shower fragrancers. Even though we were on different coast, we probably know some of the same people.
Naw the Kitty Hawk was in class of her own brood consisting of herself and two sisters the Connie and JFK, it would have been called the Constellation Class but connie caught on fire and Kitty beat her out the docks. Food was horrible but same can almost be said of every carrier about. Water was okay unless a fuel pipe busted, it was better than the red water from AU to the point we didn't bother drinking that and resorted to processed water products such as colas. As for diesel boat she did fairly well, I mean she outlasted both of her sisters and a few nuclear carriers. As for accidents our rates were about the same as the fleet and rarely blamed on equipment failure though we have a few big ones, including one wire snap and loss bird. True though that you could probably take paint thinner to her and sink her that way. Last I heard she's retiring to some reserve yards there are folks still wanting her to be a museum as being the longest modern serving ship in the navy; an impossible fate for the recently retired USS Enterprise. Decommissioning her reactors would gut her completely unrecognizable. Nothing to fret the legacy will continue as the newest scheduled carrier is going to continue the name. The damn WW2 Enterprise was beaten from one side of hell to the other and almost participated in every major fight back then.
Big E was my home away from home. 63, 64, 65, and 67 all shared the same keel. The odd ball was the Kennedy cause she commissioned after the Nimitz iirrc. The horror stories I heard were that deisel leaked into the water so bad that showers burned your eyes. That and a rather entertaining story about what happened to everyone in the aft berthing that sits under the traps that thought they were a gang and desided to jump the watch one night. Led me to believe that the mid ninties thug life is what caused the need for MAs on the boat.
I was sad to see that the E retired, but honestly, she was a floating museum when I crused on her. I was really glad to see that her namesake would continue. I may consider getting back in for 1 tour to be a plank owner in a decade or so. |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
353
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:38:00 -
[57] - Quote
Reserve lieutenant of the brazilian army |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
24
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
USN vet Hospital Corpsman 0000/Field Corpsman 8404. Aka "Bones, devil doc, doc, and fingers". Was also with VFA 83 and USS Saratoga/USS Kitty Hawk and also 29 Stumps. Revive, revive, revive! |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
228
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
If you had your own avatar, Bolt, I'd make a little meme picture for you.
CommanderBolt wrote: That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
Says "normally." Obviously has never heard the name of a US ship before.
Anyways, US Army, 15T. I guess I'm pretty alright at door gunning on the dropship? I can also use a repair tool on dropships like nobody's business! |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
238
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:22:00 -
[60] - Quote
I had pre-military training to become a sharpshooter in the swiss military... but then moved to the US just before I turned 18 and military service was no longer a requirement... my friends still tease me to this day calling me a draft dodger; don't laugh. |
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low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
505
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:38:00 -
[61] - Quote
former NAVY.
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RA Drahcir
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
250
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
Corporal of (US) Marines. Iraq and Afghanistan veteran. Adv: Teamwork. Communication. Disadv: Misunderstood. Sore loser. |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
976
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:03:00 -
[63] - Quote
Believe it or not, I'm in the US Army. STORY TIME!
My parents met in the Army back in the 80s, both serving as Commo specialists. My paternal grandfather served in Vietnam in the Army and was blown up a little bit while on a tank. My maternal grandfather joined the Army before Vietnam and got out before the Vietnam War began. He was a medic.
My little brother joined the Army in the spring of 2010. That was enough to push me to join. I went to basic training in November of 2010 to become a Human Resources Specialist (terrible MOS by the way). After training, I was sent to Virginia. I spent a couple months here learning about the normal Army life and then began training for a deployment to Kuwait. During that time, I tore my labrum, rotator cuff, and biceps tendon in my left shoulder. Didn't get to deploy :(
Had surgery in April of 2012 to repair my shoulder. As I was just beginning to get somewhere with my recovery, I started having severe migraines. Like, someone took a hammer and bashed at my temples repeatedly. I missed yet another deployment due to these migraines. I still suffer from them a couple times a week and will be separating from the military in early 2014.
Although I have a pretty jacked up military experience, the structure and discipline are two things I hope I carry on with me for the rest of my life. Disorderliness, disorganization, and lack of discipline drive me insane. With that comes my need to take control of these situations. I like to think I'm a natural leader, and the military has definitely reinforced that.
Training-wise, video games and actual military movements are too different to implement effectively right now. I think with some games, military knowledge is beneficial, but Dust isn't one of those games. |
DEATH DEALER 1975
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:00:00 -
[64] - Quote
U.S. Army Vet, 19K10 (Tanker) and yes If your wondering I'm a Tanker in the Dust
Shoot, Move, Communicate |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
219
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:16:00 -
[65] - Quote
I was in the US Coast Guard myself.
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MrSneaky1971a
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
18
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:43:00 -
[66] - Quote
1989 - U.S. Army MOS 11C 4.2 inch morterman.
1990 - 1995 United States Marine Corps - MOS 0311 Infantryman and some other ones. 1990 - 1992 Philippines 1993 - 1995 Camp Lejeune, NC
I have been the Project Leader for the PC Game Mod called Point of Existence which ran on top of Battlefield: Vietnam and Battlefield: 2 and as the head Military Advisor originally to the team. My call sign back then was =LORD=Hathcock. ... Used to be involved with a competitive gaming clan that played the Mod Desert Combat and was part of the leadership team for them.
Being in the military I believe has given me an edge on some as it pertains to teamwork, getting people organized, communicating and teaching others "how" to communicate when in battle....when a team mate states they have a tank near them...is it friendly or hostile? Location of said tank, and direction it's going, type and status of that tank...etc. I know I'm not the best when it comes to being a top kill/death ratio player but most of the matches that I do play with a squad of players I will rank in the top 3 because of getting points for being a team player...being a Logistics player providing healing, ammo, drop links, etc...
Semper Fidelis,
MrSneaky1971a Director of the Strong Armed Bandits Corporation Fighting within the Public Disorder Alliance
Strongarmedbandits.blogspot.com |
Kara Macmillian
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:26:00 -
[67] - Quote
U.S. Army, Combat engineer 03-09 |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:01:00 -
[68] - Quote
MrSneaky1971a wrote:1989 - U.S. Army MOS 11C 4.2 inch morterman.
1990 - 1995 United States Marine Corps - MOS 0311 Infantryman and some other ones. 1990 - 1992 Philippines 1993 - 1995 Camp Lejeune, NC
I have been the Project Leader for the PC Game Mod called Point of Existence which ran on top of Battlefield: Vietnam and Battlefield: 2 and as the head Military Advisor originally to the team. My call sign back then was =LORD=Hathcock. ... Used to be involved with a competitive gaming clan that played the Mod Desert Combat and was part of the leadership team for them.
Being in the military I believe has given me an edge on some as it pertains to teamwork, getting people organized, communicating and teaching others "how" to communicate when in battle....when a team mate states they have a tank near them...is it friendly or hostile? Location of said tank, and direction it's going, type and status of that tank...etc. I know I'm not the best when it comes to being a top kill/death ratio player but most of the matches that I do play with a squad of players I will rank in the top 3 because of getting points for being a team player...being a Logistics player providing healing, ammo, drop links, etc...
Semper Fidelis,
MrSneaky1971a Director of the Strong Armed Bandits Corporation Fighting within the Public Disorder Alliance
Strongarmedbandits.blogspot.com
Ahhh, SALUTE reports. I think I'm going to do a video about how to use those in-game.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
723
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
I've been in the italian army for a couple of years, i have no real advantages in videogames. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
11
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
Re-ask this in a year. I'm gonna enlist into the us airforce when I graduate Right now I'm a 1st lieutenant in my jrotc, but that doesn't effect my gaming because apparently the Colonel isn't allowed to teach war tactics. |
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1056
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Posted - 2013.09.30 02:11:00 -
[71] - Quote
DS 10 wrote:MrSneaky1971a wrote:1989 - U.S. Army MOS 11C 4.2 inch morterman.
1990 - 1995 United States Marine Corps - MOS 0311 Infantryman and some other ones. 1990 - 1992 Philippines 1993 - 1995 Camp Lejeune, NC
I have been the Project Leader for the PC Game Mod called Point of Existence which ran on top of Battlefield: Vietnam and Battlefield: 2 and as the head Military Advisor originally to the team. My call sign back then was =LORD=Hathcock. ... Used to be involved with a competitive gaming clan that played the Mod Desert Combat and was part of the leadership team for them.
Being in the military I believe has given me an edge on some as it pertains to teamwork, getting people organized, communicating and teaching others "how" to communicate when in battle....when a team mate states they have a tank near them...is it friendly or hostile? Location of said tank, and direction it's going, type and status of that tank...etc. I know I'm not the best when it comes to being a top kill/death ratio player but most of the matches that I do play with a squad of players I will rank in the top 3 because of getting points for being a team player...being a Logistics player providing healing, ammo, drop links, etc...
Semper Fidelis,
MrSneaky1971a Director of the Strong Armed Bandits Corporation Fighting within the Public Disorder Alliance
Strongarmedbandits.blogspot.com Ahhh, SALUTE reports. I think I'm going to do a video about how to use those in-game.
i do those all the time by accident. ugh :/ |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
124
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Posted - 2013.09.30 09:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
So kids, make sure not to **** these people off. Will kick your ass in-game and real life |
dazlb72
HELGHAN EXILES
71
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Posted - 2013.09.30 22:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
I have family who served, and family currently serving. I want to offer a heartfelt thankyou to all of you, no matter what country you are from, for trying to make this world a better and safer place for us all. THANKYOU. |
Chief-Shotty
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
21
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Posted - 2013.10.01 08:33:00 -
[74] - Quote
USN I was a lazy OS OS3 at your service -Gather, Process, Display, Eliminate, Disseminate
Got stationed on the USS Port Royal back in 07. Pearl Harbor HI is Historic and I was there for my First duty I worked radar, comms, and IFF
I pushed buttons a lot so i can work a PS3 controller for real.
Communication, following orders and reading a situation is probably what I got from the service.I'm used to looking at screens all day and so the radar, overview map and HUD i notice things much faster than most and I know when to flank and get the hell out of dodge when a situation turns bad. Unfortunately my abilities don't help randoms as they don't listen. I sometimes tell my corps mate when something is being hacked but even when i tell them they don't know what's happening until it turns sides and then they freak out like....WHEN THEY DO THAT!? ( I usually facepalm when i say "i told you A was being hacked like a minute ago yo"
Gaming wise im halfway decent been playing games since i was 6 back in the SNES days. I still get beaten though but planning is probably part of every Military gamers skill-set |
InsertCoinHere
0uter.Heaven
113
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:37:00 -
[75] - Quote
US Army from 1997-2006, Two tours Iraq, OIF l OIF lll
88M, 50 cal gunner convoy escort
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Justice Prevails
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:05:00 -
[76] - Quote
Navy 1993-2003 Interior communications Independence cv-62, yokosuka japan Obrien dd-975 yokosuka Pearl harbor shipyard.
Best years of my life.
Not much really contributes to dust. Maybe teamwork and ability to take orders.
Until they install a bar next to each CRU:)
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Lanius Pulvis
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:41:00 -
[77] - Quote
I'm a 91B (Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic) and an NCO in the ORNG. I'd have to say the biggest advantage I've seen is knowing the difference between a Warrior and a Soldier (no disrespect to my brothers and sisters in the Air Force, Navy and Marines, I'm talking about us all). A Warrior looks out for himself and looks to get as many kills as possible, a Soldier looks out for the team and tries to ensure a win, even if that means sacrificing or letting your K/D suffer. I play with many people in, or formerly in, the military and we all know the importance of communication and proper back-up. If you don't play as a squad you may get kills, but not necessarily wins! |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
529
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Posted - 2013.10.02 12:08:00 -
[78] - Quote
I played battlefield 2 once |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
1006
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Posted - 2013.10.02 12:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
InsertCoinHere wrote:US Army from 1997-2006, Two tours Iraq, OIF l OIF lll
88M, 50 cal gunner convoy escort
Big ups to all 88s. Most dangerous job in the Army. |
Magnus Amadeuss
DUST University Ivy League
58
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:10:00 -
[80] - Quote
I was in the United States Army from 2001 to 2006 and spent time in SWA during that service period.
I just want to thank everyone in here, regardless of nationality, for their service. If the other nations are anything like ours, the pay is lousy and the job can be difficult. |
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Tatarina G'Had
Enlightened Infantries
1
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:33:00 -
[81] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote: USS kitty hawk?
I assume you are a yank I am sorry I mean an immigrant? That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
I realize you had to spout out your envy, but that was an aircraft carrier named after Kitty Hawk, NC. Go google it and gain some knowledge as to why you are so ignorant. I guess you could have done that first, but you really had to post what you did, huh?
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
382
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:59:00 -
[82] - Quote
im ex british army,
infantry,
spent half my career on foot and the other half mechanised driving all sort of tracked vehicles within multiple different roles. so pretty much fit right into dust. tbh though i don't find dust anywhere near complicated enough to benefit from most of my military experience in its current state but i do see allot of potential.
i was in the anti tank platoon of my unit for a while and was using milan at the time which is a wire guided av weapon for those that don't know. also used plenty of LAW's which is a single shot av missile. these have no comparison to dust variants but some of the tactics still work.
for the most part i was just a lowly squad member doing my part. rifles,av,grenades,underslung grenade launchers, mortars etc etc. jack of most trades.
i did a few tours and too many long training exercises in many countries.
pay was pretty bad so not much different than dust. least you have something right lol
other than the pay there is still a long way to go.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find=unread |
VooDoo Rampage
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:47:00 -
[83] - Quote
BursegSardaukar wrote:Well, my corporation (SMERG) formed in EVE in late 2007 after a bunch of guys from my unit (3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment) got back from our second tour in Iraq. We had quite a few of us all banding together, TOTAL noobs, trying to be "mercenaries" in the ruthless world of EVE Online. There was Fightback, Shhaazam, Lowlanderbean, Rakkinechew, Dr1ftw00d, 8inferno8, P-rez. We ended up recruiting a few guys we met online that happened to be in the Army, Tiwatz, Reg'nar, etc etc, and we would bust each other's balls about the branches we were in.
I still have a ton of former and active duty guys in my corporation, along with some of those silver-spoon college-kiddy bastards, but sadly most of my old unit buddies have moved on to other games or otherwise dropped off my radar. It's always awesome to recruit a guy in Dust that has some form of military background, even if I sort of find myself rapidly becoming the old dude that used to be in and can't entirely relate to the active duty guys in their first enlistment anymore lol.
Hehe Burseg, Yeah I am former Navy OSC (SW) served 11 years and got out in 97. |
VooDoo Rampage
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
ladwar wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Shipmate :)
IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar.
What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much. i hate that word almost as much as the lazy Os we had. ossn to osc 8 year... worse chief on board and made fun of by everyone.
That's awesome, you beat me. I went from SA apprentice program to OSC in 9.2 years. Same here, jealous sons of !@#$ cause I was young, stacked with awards and well, good looking. hehe.
Served 7 years in Pearl Harbor, 1 year in Japan and 3 years as a recruiter.
Thanks to all those for your service. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
383
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Posted - 2013.10.04 16:50:00 -
[85] - Quote
does ccp actually have any military liaison's for dust 514 |
Jacques Cayton II
Caldari Protectorate United
31
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Posted - 2013.10.05 01:49:00 -
[86] - Quote
To answer your question I am in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne division 2/505 PIR 3rd BCT. I'm a paratrooper 11B (infantryman) and I must say being light infantry and knowing battle drills along with deployments helps in some scenarios like bounding really helps being a heavy. Flanking enemy tanks with forge guns while your team distracts it and all other training I've had helps but, it's still a game because in all actuality these guns should be doing far more damage. Especially the hmg its a minigun for Christ's sake come on. Also it just takes talent and skills 75% of time. |
AKCP Scion Lex
Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2013.10.05 01:52:00 -
[87] - Quote
ex-army infantry 11b. did my job, nothing special. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
47
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Posted - 2013.10.05 04:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
hmm.. my corporation most major members are active military now... lets see I have one guy former rangers, another marines, another going to naval academy, and another that served on the uss Kennedy. I couldn't express my appreciation for there service and they help out in the game a lot more than one would be able to expect together we have developed new strafing techniques along with many other helpful hints along the way.
Me myself plan on going into the coast guard at a future date. |
Bartimaeus of Achura
Cassardis
47
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Posted - 2013.10.05 04:26:00 -
[89] - Quote
Tatarina G'Had wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: USS kitty hawk?
I assume you are a yank I am sorry I mean an immigrant? That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
I realize you had to spout out your envy, but that was an aircraft carrier named after Kitty Hawk, NC. Go google it and gain some knowledge as to why you are so ignorant. I guess you could have done that first, but you really had to post what you did, huh? I did it for him |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
671
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:37:00 -
[90] - Quote
97-00 USMC HQ Co. 8th Camp Lejeune 7th Comm Battalion Okinawa
01-08 USAF FMF JIATF South Davis Monthan AZ
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Jay Westen
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.10.05 21:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
Ex Air Force... |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
387
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Posted - 2013.10.06 17:36:00 -
[92] - Quote
just a thought ccp.
would it be helpful to you for us ex military to provide information on how we worked within our specific areas of the military. nothing that is not already available on the net but basically our own personal experiences and views and how we process a battle and how dust could be made better by incorporating these specific features into the game.
how we work as a team on the ground, how we incorporate vehicles into a fight. when, where and how specific weapons are used and for what purpose (not all weapons are designed to kill alone). when to defend and when to attack. how we manipulate the enemy into doing what we want and not falling for their ploys instead. how we communicate vital information.
all this information could go a long way to improving the squad/team play of dust rather than just bigger better weapons and suits and overwhelming force.
CCP you have a wealth of military experience and knowledge from many different countries at your disposal. you only have to ask |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
512
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:04:00 -
[93] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story!
Holy smokes, Mintchip was in the Navy? Man, I'm twice as turned on now!
I'm former Marine 0311 Rifleman. Short timer. Served on the fence line in GTMO.
I'd like to use what I learned in the Marines (tactical comms, movement, organization) but you just don't see a lot of that in these games unless you get in some leet tryhard corp that judges everything by in-game crap like k/dr, proto gear, having to "earn" your way up their little chain of command to the leet corp and being expected to fire a weapon with a dumb controller vs. provide valuable tactical mindset.
So, between that and the lol level of mechanics in this game atm; I just tend to run around as an army of one.
I see little advantage otherwise having military training. I mean I don't recall any infantry training that taught me how to shoot at a tutuless ballarina with a shotgun. I might have fallen asleep in that class.
Also, i don't recall any kind of combat in the history of combat I'm familiar with consisting of everybody running around at high speed, randomly running over to your team's sorry excuse for a forward position and stabbing, shotgunning or otherwise randomly disrupting due to there not really being any sort of enemy lines, or hard held positions.
Even a M.O.U.T. situation doesn't have the level of professional dancing and carnival ride progression this game has. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
512
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 -
[94] - Quote
ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:just a thought ccp.
would it be helpful to you for us ex military to provide information on how we worked within our specific areas of the military. nothing that is not already available on the net but basically our own personal experiences and views and how we process a battle and how dust could be made better by incorporating these specific features into the game.
how we work as a team on the ground, how we incorporate vehicles into a fight. when, where and how specific weapons are used and for what purpose (not all weapons are designed to kill alone). when to defend and when to attack. how we manipulate the enemy into doing what we want and not falling for their ploys instead. how we communicate vital information.
all this information could go a long way to improving the squad/team play of dust rather than just bigger better weapons and suits and overwhelming force.
CCP you have a wealth of military experience and knowledge from many different countries at your disposal. you only have to ask
you could set up a military panel
Yeah, better be already available info. I could otherwise see how China would welcome a game development that might allow them to be privy to American/European classified info on tactics and equipment. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
388
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:47:00 -
[95] - Quote
Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:just a thought ccp.
would it be helpful to you for us ex military to provide information on how we worked within our specific areas of the military. nothing that is not already available on the net but basically our own personal experiences and views and how we process a battle and how dust could be made better by incorporating these specific features into the game.
how we work as a team on the ground, how we incorporate vehicles into a fight. when, where and how specific weapons are used and for what purpose (not all weapons are designed to kill alone). when to defend and when to attack. how we manipulate the enemy into doing what we want and not falling for their ploys instead. how we communicate vital information.
all this information could go a long way to improving the squad/team play of dust rather than just bigger better weapons and suits and overwhelming force.
CCP you have a wealth of military experience and knowledge from many different countries at your disposal. you only have to ask
you could set up a military panel Yeah, better be already available info. I could otherwise see how China would welcome a game development that might allow them to be privy to American/European classified info on tactics and equipment.
china already knows everything there is to know lol |
Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock
Ultramarine Corp
34
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:55:00 -
[96] - Quote
US Army Regular, 19D. No longer active but proud to have served. I also find little tactical translation. |
Dane Krios
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
Greek Navy Reservist Seaman, D12 conscription series or +ò+ú+ú+ƒ as they're called, served my tour of duty as support staff due to lower ability rating (weight, myopia).
Although I was proud of serving my country, the permanent staff didn't inspire most of the time. I mean, yes, it's the army etc., but when you get called from the other side of the compound to clean or take out the garbage because a petty officer that's sitting around all day can't be bothered with it or a higher rank doesn't want his conscript protege to get tired, it can get really disheartening. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.10.07 21:12:00 -
[98] - Quote
Interesting in this thread, all the non combatants like myself think there military experience does help, while the combatants say not. I solute you guys that actually know what the sound of an enemy round flying past your head sounds like while 'military' guys like me knew nothing of that fear.
Universal is comm discipline and leadership heiarchy. I guess we get that no matter what role we played in the real service, that helps here. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
382
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Posted - 2013.10.08 05:19:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tatarina G'Had wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: USS kitty hawk?
I assume you are a yank I am sorry I mean an immigrant? That doesn't sound very yank like. Normally its "Blah blah PATRIOT!!!! MAXXX POWERR blah" Or perhaps - "USS FREEDOM LIBERTY" or some other nonsense like that :P
I realize you had to spout out your envy, but that was an aircraft carrier named after Kitty Hawk, NC. Go google it and gain some knowledge as to why you are so ignorant. I guess you could have done that first, but you really had to post what you did, huh?
I have no envy for your wasteland. Well damn it.... It seems I didn't stir up as much trouble as I anticipated. You seem like decent people so I shall take my insults somewhere else. |
bahtak
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.09 01:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
ex-Navy bubblehead here |
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Niccolo deLuce
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
22
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Posted - 2013.10.09 02:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
Airborne 11B/11C from '05-'12.
If anything helps, it's the teamwork, but it doesn't take military experience to work as a team.
There's no translation between Dust and combat. AV would be one-shotting almost everything, two tops. Assault rifles would be slaughtering everyone out to 500 meters (definitely the same for the hmg). If you jumped around a corner within 25 meters of somebody, one of you would die within about .5 seconds. None of this dancing around in melee range dumping 100+ ar/smg rounds trying to land hits. No respawns, no nanite injectors, no rendering issues, friendly fire is always on, etc. Also, if we were so concerned about securing the ground facilities for our benefactors, we wouldn't be spending all match spraying the structures with bullets/missiles/grenades and freaking orbital laser bombardments.
Dust is just a game, an addictive and fun one, but still just a game. There's a reason why the actual "tactical" games aren't nearly as popular as stuff like COD and BF, and even in those tactical ones they're not very realistic. Nobody wants to get taken out by a random mg burst from 1km away. Nobody wants to lay in the prone and take pop shots at each other from 600 meters while your FO is calling for indirect. Nobody wants to go on an 8 hour patrol and never see anything. More people want to Hollywood it and go in guns blazing, because it's fun.
Tactics and military experience can come into play a little bit in Eve, where you can create diversions with feints into enemy territory, and you have to worry about your logistical capabilities and such. In Dust though, there's neither micro nor macro tactics, at least yet. |
BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
81
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Posted - 2013.10.09 08:17:00 -
[102] - Quote
Reporting For Duty Ma'am,
LMEM 3 badgeman of Her Majesties ROYAL NAVY
good fleet, better men o7
anyone for a cup of tea
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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
649
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Posted - 2013.10.13 16:10:00 -
[103] - Quote
Im not but the ones I know of are:
Shaw Is Law - Currently finishing up boot camp Doug Estep TX Snowman Morathi III |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
677
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Posted - 2013.10.13 16:22:00 -
[104] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.
One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!
Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?
Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?
Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story!
Theres a lack of fear when facing guns in FPS games, so i doubt that any real military training translates very well to actuall good FPS skills, i know if i was faced down by a squad of 6 Marines in RL, idd be frozen unable to act from fear or don't know what to do because of adrenaline overload, where'as in a game like Dust idd try to take em all out with calculated precision.
Off all the people i have trouble with in this game, none are actual Military. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
425
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:42:00 -
[105] - Quote
i challenge ccp to a match.. 16 of us currently/ex serving against 16 of your finest in the office.
(throws gauntlet on the ground)
what say you!! |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express
7
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:04:00 -
[106] - Quote
US Army Reserve SPC 42A formerly Active Duty with 173rd Airborne BCT Single 12 month deployment to Afghanistan
As far as skills translating to Dust, not sure. But I do value teamwork and the overall victory, knowing the value of proper support. I don't see other players using as much cover or bounding from cover to cover as much as I do, or looking for spots where I can fire while being in cover. Didn't mind so much the open beta when a few shots from an AR killed a player who tried to cross an open plain. |
John Surratt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2013.10.15 04:55:00 -
[107] - Quote
US Army 95B1P 1995-1999 Deployed to Former Yugoslavia before it was called Operation Joint Endeavor & after. Currently still serving brother & sister veterans at the Dept of Veteran Affairs. I must be a glutton for punishment.
RL training does not translate to video games except perhaps on higher level strategic & meta game facets. I am living proof that scoring expert on everything that we had in our MTOE (except for the old M60 MG. . never got the knack for that thing) in real life does not apply to a DS controller.
DUST being F2P might be very good if the whole debt ceiling / budget thing doesn't work out and I get paid in an IOU. . . (again)
Didn't know you were a swabbie Mintchip, what was your rating? |
Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles
4
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:20:00 -
[108] - Quote
Southeast Ga. Former Missile technician USN. As far as dust is concerned great outlet for ptsd |
Nemo Nauticlone
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
20
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:40:00 -
[109] - Quote
Two of our founding members back in MAG were inactive US Marines, one is now an army recruiter and most of our players in MAG Served with each other in either the Marines or in the US Army. Now we do not have so many military people but as far as how it has influenced us we try to take the lessons they learned in Boot, Beast, and in the field and convert them into game terms. It isn't easy and it is usually frustrating for the Military guys (I am not military, I was denied entrance for medical reasons)
If nothing else it makes the chain of command a lot easier and our tactics a bit less cut and dry. Translating tactics and stuff is a lot harder here than it was in MAG I'm told due to limits on squad commands and voice issues.
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general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
ive noticed that people who are former military or active military tend to be better at fps games ,especially when aiming,,which makes it mor challenging to play. im not in military btw,but i respect all military,both active,and retired,i salute you! |
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Broxx Nexular
ShitHead Squadron
21
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY wrote:USMC Combat Engineer SGT. 2003-2007 - Multiple combat tours.
How does this benefit me in Dust 514?
Flanking.... Flanking everywhere.
whether its playing this, Planetside 2, or Battlefield, I always flank. It often baffles me that so many people don't ever do it. Maybe its just the mindset :P
btw, USMC 2005-2010 1st MLG No combat experience here, got trained to repair switchboards and phones, ended up in the training office |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
94
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:26:00 -
[112] - Quote
Grease Spillett wrote:Southeast Ga. Former Missile technician USN. As far as dust is concerned great outlet for ptsd
Are you a keeper of the dragon? |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:12:00 -
[113] - Quote
102. reconnaissance Battalion Prost-¢jov
recon/sapper/AA
Now PMC freelance
About game, honestly this game is just Run-¦n-¦Gun in big time. No place for strategy. Enough is just overpowered enemy in bigger moving squad. Weapons dont feel like arms at all. MGs are not MGs, nades feel like polystyrene something, projectiles for tows are unbelievebly slow. Boyo MAG was awesome, this is just horible. |
Salviatino Maiano
Hollowed Kings
49
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Posted - 2013.10.19 00:37:00 -
[114] - Quote
U.S. Army 07-Jul-05 to 07-Jul-13 15R AH-64D Attack Helicopter Crewchief 2 tours, out now! |
Adiran Zanzalin
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:33:00 -
[115] - Quote
Amarr Victor!!
(OOC: HM3 US Navy Hospital Corps. ) |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
122
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:13:00 -
[116] - Quote
I was 8 months in finnish 2nd jaeger company (speciality urban warfare) We have conscription in finland so allmost every finnish man has to go in army,navy etc etc |
Gunnut88
US Military Gamers
8
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Posted - 2013.10.21 04:21:00 -
[117] - Quote
US Army '06-'09 11B |
Kahn Zo
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:37:00 -
[118] - Quote
US Army 81' ~ 87' First Cav. 76 series Allocations Procurements Mobil tisa installations. weapons proficiency.
I like sea otters. |
Cpl G
Proctology Academy General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:45:00 -
[119] - Quote
USMC 2002-2010 Cpl 2nd award (lol) 2111 Small arms repair tech 1 combat tour all over iraq i have to agree with the others on flanking it just makes sense to us. no point in running in a gunning thinking your going to make it out unscaved. and if you can master the jump and gun method then your golden. wish you can go in the prone maybe some day. do the run and jump dive into the prone would be awesome! or the turkey shoot where your just put the weapon out to draw fire while your buds run across. did that a twice in iraq almost got my finger blown off! thank god for the mag well. as far as throwing grenades goes its kinda off for high tech suits i would think we could toss them a little farther be a little more realistic but its cool not a big deal, just blame it on lag lol. cant wait to get higher leveled in this game really need those high powered guns. just started playing 3 days ago and im hooked. if you guys support paypal let me know so i can start shelling out some cash really liking this game and the fact that you made it free on the ps3 makes me want to support even more! wish more companies were like this! telling all my friends about Dusk 514!
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:46:00 -
[120] - Quote
USAF avionics technician here. I play logi in DUST and EVE. Fix planes all day then go home and rep spaceships/dropships/whatever else... The only skill I use is radio discipline. WTB RL rep tool. |
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
594
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:06:00 -
[121] - Quote
ex-Taiwanese army 6th corp 269 Mechanized Infantry Brigade
and how does it benefit me in dust? transportation is key its too bad we don't have APC's/IFV's in dust to carry more troops around the battlefield, so the LAV will just have to suffice for now.
i feel so alone since almost everyone is in the US army as im probably the only one from the Asian side of the world |
Bear D'Grassi
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.24 12:49:00 -
[122] - Quote
Ex Royal Air Force, embarrasingly this has not translated into an ability to fly a DS.
As far as helping in game, I tend not to ridgline myself. Shape shine shadow etc etc. |
Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet Top Men.
87
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:02:00 -
[123] - Quote
Uh oh, two non-American military in a row. Better chime in as a combo vet to balance things out.
2003-2007 USMC. Spent time in Okinawa, Camp Lejeune and beautiful Iraq.
2009-2012 US Navy. Sat in Sicily playing with radios and getting fat on the local food.
Shoot, move, communicate. |
Aviles
Novashift
4
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:11:00 -
[124] - Quote
Wounded Iraq vet with 7 years experience.
Game play: I have played games since I was 5. I still remember Atari. As for my real life mil experience vs gaming? Its my opinion that it just doesn't mater. Why? In the real world your enemies don't come back to life and neither do you. In games we don't have to be as cautious. In the real world the enemy hides behind cover and concealment and you need to find them. In game they run around like maniacs. In the real world a tank is a threat that can be taken out tactically, if not your screwed. But once its gone its gone. In game your just screwed because well...here comes another tank magically out of the sky.
Social: You have two sides to this as far as acceptance. On one end people welcome you and look forward to someone who is a natural leader and can guide them with plans and organisation to win the fight. On the other hand you get ignorant kids who just look at you as showing off or flexing muscle. In some cases it may be true but in the end no amount of leadership can fix stupid. I'm reminded of my most hated moment in gaming, before I quit CoD. A obvious teen (by his voice) stated "this **** is easy I could do this in the real military! I would kill so many [racist term i refuse to use]" I had to just scoff and ignore it. But what I rely wanted to do is grab him by the throat in rage telling him how little he knows and how short his life would be if he went into battle with that attitude. Because in the real world being reckless or trying to play superman on the battlefield WILL GET YOU KILLED! There are no continues or 1 ups in real life. |
ARES HIMSELF
THE GOD'Z THEMSELVES The Scourge.
168
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:46:00 -
[125] - Quote
Im currently going through ocs and it does give me a upper hand on the BF |
Spartan MK420
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3
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Posted - 2013.10.26 16:20:00 -
[126] - Quote
Corporal of the United States Marine Corps.
Retired.
Semper Fi. |
Holi Butt
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.26 20:57:00 -
[127] - Quote
SSG US Army, Field Artillery...
FA doesn't do crap in Dust, but all of my nonstandard training has had some bearing.
Any all military corps out there? |
Blind Nojoy
G I A N T EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.10.27 01:09:00 -
[128] - Quote
Active duty US Navy.
I'm an Electronic Warfare Officer, flying the EA-18G. It's the replacement for the EA-6B Prowler that is being phased out. Did two deployments so far, one over Iraq, one over Afghanistan.
Currently instructing new pilots on the new jet, moving to San Diego soon and can't count the days fast enough. |
Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
42
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Posted - 2013.10.27 16:05:00 -
[129] - Quote
No Chaplains?? |
Dexyi
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:36:00 -
[130] - Quote
i use to be a 92Y , but i didnt choose Logi as my class, but having the military training does translate well when a smart team is using tactics. |
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AC SLAUGHTER
Army of 420's Lokun Listamenn
0
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Posted - 2013.11.01 21:58:00 -
[131] - Quote
US Army I was is the signal corp but know how to shoot. Just look at my name. I came across this game and this game is by far thr best FPS I ever played. So in depth as far as customization. A lot better than those other ones out there. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
350
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Posted - 2013.11.02 00:49:00 -
[132] - Quote
USN 8 years left honorably. Served many places.
Corps with a larger military membership tend to have a larger sense of strategy and tactical discussion. The comms are very seldom flooded with QQ and they are more likely to respond to orders from squad leaders. There is more positivity or whatever it is referred to when a person refuses to QQ/ rage and instead focuses on how to deal with a problem.
This is the same with EVE. Only in Eve the military based corporations last much longer than kiddie corps. Military people current or former, tend to be better 'friends' and helpful whereas the immature player base is still trying to prove that their ********* have in- fact: dropped.
Pre-Uprising we were discussing tactics in a military sense instead of a video game sense. We all wanted DUST to be more a military combat simulator than just a run-and-gun game. DUNI doesn't give up, we still hope. |
Talbain Sigmund
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:53:00 -
[133] - Quote
US Army Signal Corps. 25F. Played with just about everything else under the 25 umbrella too.
Command & Control, Situational Awareness, and Discipline are pretty transferable. The tactics can be useful but the whole squad needs to be on the same page or they're worthless. Higher tolerance for sleep/food/morale deprivation helps A LOT. Skills with weapons systems, varies from almost worthless to actively counterproductive. Most DUST weapons are laughable compared to their RL counterparts. I've been my company/platoon weapons guy for over half a decade at various assignments now and yeah. Having somehow been assigned the M-2, MK-19, and M249 gunner (Admin clusterfuck?) I find DUST's weapons laughable.
40mm grenade machine gun. <- As sexy as it sounds.... When it's properly maintained. |
benandjerrys
NECROM0NGERS
0
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:08:00 -
[134] - Quote
FT3(ss) on the USS NEWPORT NEWS (SSN 750) ...yes Im one of those bubbleheads I've noticed us military types harp on formality of comms during matches and call out our actions as if we are following procedure, after all it's just what we do everyday. My KDR and just general play goes up when someone really commands a squad and I'll often take the lead whenever someone isn't stepping up (thanks squad finder) |
Illuminaughty-696
Galere Omega Battle Services
300
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:41:00 -
[135] - Quote
Former Army Infantry, 11-C (Indirect Fire Artilleryman) |
Levi McDaniel
NECROM0NGERS
35
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:09:00 -
[136] - Quote
United States Marine Corps, 1st BN 5th MAR. 0311 Infantry. 2006-2010, Helmand Province Afghanistan '09
Yes Mintchip. Military training does transfer over, anyone who says it doesn't is a POG or a reservist :P or never brushed up on their tactical knowledge (google MCDP 1-3).
Anyways, I find it very useful, I usually spend the majority of the match looking at the map, finding vulnerable positions, flanking, setting up overwatch with snipers, interlocking fields of fire, using indirect fire weapons properly from behind cover, telling squad mates to hold around that corner. Using simple military common sense, if your team is dying in the city, take the outside objectives, it forces the enemy to come out of the city to reclaim them. Standard blueberry is pretty stupid and uses the "I went this way before and died 5 times, I'm gonna keep going that way"
That being said, I do have fun playing with my veteran buddies.
ATTENTION MINTCHIP PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS NEXT PART Waiting for DUST to give me the option to Watch the Map on EVE so I can just provide intel. Tell ccp to get to it. |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:21:00 -
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Aussie infantry mid 90s
Playing this game is like going to war with a bunch of pogues, most run around and just do weird things, e.g. stand around smoking a durry when an objective is around the corner.
How does my training help. Playing seldom and as a logi for me it comes down to more common sense, where is a good place for an uplink, and where to dump a hive. Basic tactics, like the enemy must capture point A so defend downstream of a bottle neck. Things I had to unlearn, fear is no longer a weapon and stupid things like being able to accurately aim while running and jumping is a joke and the one thing i find most odd is shooting someone with a mounted weapon vs a hand held weapon seems to be about the same. |
Suanar Daranaus
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:00:00 -
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U.S. Air Force
41151A
Retired |
Levi McDaniel
NECROM0NGERS
35
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:08:00 -
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WASTED MERC wrote:Aussie infantry mid 90s
Playing this game is like going to war with a bunch of pogues, most run around and just do weird things, e.g. stand around smoking a durry when an objective is around the corner.
How does my training help. Playing seldom and as a logi for me it comes down to more common sense, where is a good place for an uplink, and where to dump a hive. Basic tactics, like the enemy must capture point A so defend downstream of a bottle neck. Things I had to unlearn, fear is no longer a weapon and stupid things like being able to accurately aim while running and jumping is a joke and the one thing i find most odd is shooting someone with a mounted weapon vs a hand held weapon seems to be about the same.
When comms work!!! *** HELLO CCP *** and the squad actually uses it productively the game is much more miltiary like, but only in the fact that is essentially sandboxy and the exact same thing could be said for any shoot-em-up type game with comms
Fear is still a weapon, stay away from tanks, etc. A sniper can still discorage you from being in a certain area etc... But yeah, it is pretty much playing with POGS with no concept of flanking or avenues of approach lol |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
42
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:41:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote: Fear is still a weapon, stay away from tanks, etc. A sniper can still discorage you from being in a certain area etc... But yeah, it is pretty much playing with POGS with no concept of flanking or avenues of approach lol
No I just die, then get a suitable suite and go for it trying to kill the tank/sniper, if i notice or could be bothered that is. Fear doesnt really affect me cause I use cheap suits when I die to much, even then its only isk. Just play a few ambush matches in free gear and I got my isk back.
Being a logi the thing I hate most is idiots he push past a good defensive position and spread out too much, I have to go follow them or do my own thing, both are havardous. Most of the time games are capture and hold points to win, half the time they capture then run off trying to kill a single emeny. But even on ambush matches, getting a good position to defend makes destroying the enemy so much easier |
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Levi McDaniel
NECROM0NGERS
35
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:26:00 -
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That's one way to look at it, but I still maintain that people don't rush into a tank without proper equipment. Perhaps fear is the wrong word, but knowing it's suicide to rush a tank with no way of blowing it up is stupid, and even die then refit, you're better off changing at a supply depot, that way you're not wasting clones. |
Chris Salustro
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:14:00 -
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Active Duty Army here... Fort Carson, CO for the next 6 months. |
Jack Vanus
Brimstone Tactical Covert Intervention
14
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Posted - 2013.11.09 18:18:00 -
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I am career army with past experience as a long range surveillance detachment leader and in operations. I feel there is great potential for DUST514 to provide amazing content blending the best in real world tactics with in-game mechanics to create an amazing experience with operations across the spectrum of the game.
I currently work as a consultant providing a variety of military operational and tactical training for the cutting edge of tactics across the spectrum of operations. I and my corp and alliance mates have found that real world tactics and comms procedures work, and work well, even when up against better equipped opponents who each rely on individual gun game.
the overwhelming majority of our alliance is made up of military or former military from a variety of backgrounds which has been amazing to see come together.
See you out there. |
Pantera Feo
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 22:11:00 -
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Retired US Navy Electronics Warfare Tech/Cryptologic Technician (Technical) 1st Class. Served on CG's/DD's/DDG's and carriers throughout my career. Don't miss the Navy but miss the people the most. |
TcuBe3
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
219
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:07:00 -
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Active Duty Army
Ft Campbell,
Former 11B / 11C Airborne Infantry, Long Range Survelinece detachment.
Now 153D UH60 Pilot.
You can use the fundamentals of military training to play dust but really it comes down to shoot, move and communicate. These principals can be used anywhere from paintball, airsoft or in video games.
I don't necessarily think military training helps us be better at video games, but it helps us more with teamwork and communication. I can tell you for a fact flight training does not help me fly that damn dropship, I do enough of that IRL.
Happy Veterans Day everyone. |
Cash Gash
1 36 Infantry Battalion
1
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:30:00 -
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Former US Army MOS: 11B or infantryman UNIT: 1st Armored Division 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st of the 36th Infantry Battalion, A Co. (2007 - 2010)
I actually feel some training does transfer over to an extent. For example, unlike call of duty I believe this game is better fought under cover instead of out in the open (unlike reality sometimes you need to strafe out in the open). That means when I am engaged I will try and bound from cover to cover to put myself in a better position. This reminds me a lot of one of the US army's battle drills referred to as reacting to contact. This would also involve organized flanking while in a squad which I feel is also a very useful tactic in this game since the TTK is much higher than games like call of duty so natural firing lines are often created during matches. Sometimes I even employ another battle drill referred to as breaking contact. If I am engaging an enemy position (usually with randoms) the enemy may have an advantage over allied troops in the area or solo I come in contact with a heavy armor and instead of bounding forward I will bound to my rear to avoid an almost for certain defeat. In reality breaking contact will happen in similar situations when pinned down, bad position, or in other words in a situation where the casualty risk endangers the objective. There are skirmish matches that will end when clone reserves are depleted so it is imperative you try to survive at all costs and not be so gung ho.
Another thing that I feel transfers over in this game, due to the fact the maps we play on are so large and the topography of them are very realistic and well put together, is how I maneuver myself around the map. I will utilize draws on mountains instead of silhouetting myself on the ridge or hill for example, really anything that will conceal my position to the human eye as to not be detected. Also looking at the map even though it is not like military maps I am still able to easily identify ridge lines, draws, cuts, hills, etc. Also speaking of silhouetting yourself on a hill, it is often taught in training to not do so and when I snipe you will not catch me on a ridge line out in the open where I can easily be counter sniped. 360 degree security on objectives is a must while hacking in most situations. Rear security is a must due to the likely hood of being flanked.
I can honestly say that my former training does play a part in how I play my game. I think the same is true for most former infantrymen or military in general even if they do not realize it. Now that is not me saying this game resembles real life combat as the two are not at all similar but tactics and routines are useful and I think most of us do it through a thing the military refers to as "muscle memory". I actually wish the game would continue on a path where it is more of a tactical shooter than a game that is more pray and spray like COD where much less of my training is able to transition over. Keep it up CCP I think you all are creating a quality shooter that is unlike most others. Planetside 2 is the only other game I feel is even in the same MMO type style but both are still very unique from one another as DUST is a part of the New Eden Universe and Planetside is in its own sandbox and far less complex in regards to fitting and options available.
One thing I would like to see implemented into DUST though is field artillery. I know most FPSers hate being spammed by splash damage by an enemy from across the map but I really feel that trajectory artillery that can reach out from a good portion of the map would be useful in many situations. Plus I believe Howitzer Artillery cannons are available in EVE of the 1400mm variety so why cant DUST marines utilize a 150mm variety. I feel it would really change the dynamic of the game providing new ways combat roles are used and scout roles alike. I mean if the scout is used for scanning as one role it could also be used as a FO or forward observer marking targets for the artillery. Artillery really is the back bone in most engagements throughout history so dont leave it out of the history being made in New Eden. Believe me as an infantryman it is hard for me to recommend this being added to the game since FA is an infantrymen's worst enemy allied or not. |
LADY MYATO
QcGOLD
101
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:20:00 -
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I was a combat enginneer in the canadian army for 5 year posted at the 5 CER in Qu+¬bec city.
I do not consider military skill have any benefit in this game. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1167
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:29:00 -
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E-3 Lance Corporal, before medical discharge. United States Marines.
Went right after HS. Don't regret a damn thing. Some days I find myself missing it. Semper Fi Devil Dogs! o7
* "medical discharge" How many think you have a disfigurement now? lol*
Ha! I'm still a dashing fiend. Tho I do at times I do walk with a limp, and have to use a cane. BUT I can still run and jump just fine. Not that its any good in getting the VA docs to off my back. I Don't need a hip replacement now. It can wait. |
makii makii
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:00:00 -
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U.S Army 12b combat engineer. I'd say pretty useful from I gained from the military |
Mitch Laurence
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:25:00 -
[150] - Quote
I can't say which unit I was in due to extreme paranoia but I was on Op. Redwings where we saved Marky Mark. The real story is quite different to say the least. Been to Iraq & Afghanistan a few times as well as Iran, Pakistan Terkmenistan & Uzbekistan. I physically watched ****** hang which was quite a priviledge at the time. Got out when the kid got old enough to realize that his Dad was never around, damned kids!
I learned of Eve while at Airborne school and have had an account ever since, that's why I play Dust. As far as any similarites to real world and the game world go, like most other Vet's stated, communication is the key. I will say that although there is no headshot sound irl, the satisfaction is quite similar. Kill.
*edit: lol appearantly s @ d d @ m is bleeped out, even in new eden we despise the name. |
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
10
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:04:00 -
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PFC Eritrean Defense Forces
The 5 years i spent there i was lucky enough to have my service in an office, during peace time. Eritrea has a history of guerrilla style warfare, not being afraid to travel for long distances and fighting beyond your means. We are afraid of no one really, stubborn as hell. We have beaten armies backed by the United States and the Soviet Union (including russian and cuban troops in the soviet case). We are also the only army in history to win a large scale tank battle using captured tanks.
That stubbornness does affect my play style. I will shotgun proto. I will take on heavies in a scout suit. I will go toe to toe with anybody in the game, so called 'big names'' mean nothing to me.
All that bravado aside, most of my family have been to war, and every family in Eritrea has lost someone to war. Everybody has got plenty of stories. Real life war, real life grief. Nothing really translates into DUST or any FPS. No matter how cool the next weapon is, or that incredible shot across the map,or how seriously you take FPS its not real, its just make believe.
DUST is awesome make believe though.
*I fly I shoot I rep I tank/
Heavy, Scout, Assault and Logi at range/
I'm the Jack of all trades/
Master of Some
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Commander Dizzle
Closed For Business For All Mankind
25
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:52:00 -
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Prior United States Air Force.
Not the "chair force" part.
Nuclear Security Forces.
Only desk job I had was behind the wheel of a 12Ton up-armored Humvee.
mm. Good times. |
Nariec
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
40
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:07:00 -
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MA3 here, served in the US Navy for four years from 2009-2013. I enlisted right after graduating from HS back in 2008, and my first Duty Station was in Bahrain for 2 years. Long story short, I'm done being active and went into the reserves and cross-rated to HT(only available rate at that time) so I can go to school for physics and engineering full time. I started playing Dust back in January, right after discharge, was playing it everyday until school started (and I was a total badass during the betas and after the first few months of its release, I was the bauss of the battlefield MWAHAHAHAHAHA). Now I only play it once a month just to check in what's new, and sometimes I get rolfstomped badly that I have to eat ice cream to cool my burning rage (and I love sweets). And right now I have an upcoming test next week and I'm sitting here in the toilet shitting my ass off and procrastinating, instead of studying. |
LowerThan SnakeShip
Ultramarine Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:33:00 -
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As a paratrooper and an Army UAV Instructor. I love the gaming aspects of dust i do belive the combined warfare tactics exsist here even though they are sc fi ish. I would like to see some things change though what i dont understand is why passengers in dropships dont get a better camera view i think that if you were in charge of an operation it would be great to be able to give orders and drop orbitals with some kind of comand and control from the dropship like we do with helecopters. also i think that the ability to change classes so quick takes away from the team dynamic in war you never have one guy who is a sniper then pulls out an ar clearing rooms then pulls out his MG for overwatch and then his stinger to shot down aircraft. My point being I think what you start the game with is what you should stay for the duration of the game. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:26:00 -
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USMC 0311 Rifleman. Alpha Company 1/23. Rah.
As far as the game goes, I find I can better get a handle on how to counter the enemy, and I know the use of suppressive fire to cover an advance. Beyond that, not much. |
Jayke Violardo
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
13
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Posted - 2013.11.22 02:58:00 -
[156] - Quote
USAF AC-130U Maintainer. Not a whole lot of experience that translates from the flight line to the battlefield, but I do think squad communications is something I picked up. The need for transparency and clarity in what is said, I feel, is the best weapon found in Dust. |
Ramius A Decimus
Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors
0
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Posted - 2013.11.22 06:39:00 -
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Active CF Army, NCO, Rifle Regiment. Been in for almost 13 years now.
I find time for EVE & DUST 514 during the long "hurry-up-and-wait" periods between postings and deployments. Right now the CF is on the down swing, what with politics and the lack of a war, so been finding more time for EVE during goochie tasks and posts.
In the army, I'm just a rifleman (first) and section commander with my platoon. In the EVE universe, I'm the Commanding Officer of the Providence Guard militia, Commandant of Fleet and Marines. Odd but sobering how a virtual fictional universe can demand more responsibility than an actual military career...
R.A. Decimus, Wing Commander, Commanding Officer.
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