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CCP Mintchip wrote:

A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military.

One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play!

Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages?

Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience?

Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story!

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CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 1532	Posted - 2013.09.25 19:41:00 - [1] - Quote A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military. One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play! Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages? Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience? Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep

RECON BY FIRE Internal Rebellion 244	Posted - 2013.09.25 19:53:00 - [2] - Quote In before "I was in spec/black ops". Former US Army, 45B/19D. Doesn't really seem to translate too much to Dust. I seem to find myself flanking more than the usual "hey theres the objective" blueberry I guess.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 317	Posted - 2013.09.25 19:54:00 - [3] - Quote Well, I've got a mate that serves in the army (Irish) He plays dust in his time off I've noticed that he tends to do more planning than the average dust bunny. I still wipe the floor with him, but I reckon he'd make a much better leader than me ingame. (And know for a fact he does in the big bad world) In fact, he does, bossing me around and the like. (But hey, it works, so I follow and plod along in my scout suit) 'Course, could just be him, it's a small sample size after all.
ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 85	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:10:00 - [4] - Quote Shipmate :) IT1 here. xrate from AT. Bet you can guess what I push the most as a comms guy. But the old AT in me will have me throw my 2 cents in on the boards with regards to ewar. What was your rate Mintchip? Or were you one of those Os we love so much.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 785	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:17:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military. One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play! Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages? Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience? Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! Ex-Chairforce AKA U.S. Airforce back when F4 was the be all plane. Back when UNODIR and BOHICA were just being coined. As far as translating to video games? Story later may involve a monkey killing run.
howard sanchez Sanchez Cartage llc 771	Posted - 2013.09.25 20:30:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military. One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play! Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages? Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience? Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! Oh Mintchip! I have a newfound fondness for you Shipmate! 20 years USN. Retired Chief Hospital Corpsman, Independent Duty trained, 10yrs with 1stMarDiv & 3rd MAW....most of the rest with NavalMedicalCenterSanDiego...where I continue to work serving our military young and old Fair Winds, Following Seas and all that jazz
BatKing Deltor Granite Mercenary Division 188	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:14:00 - [7] - Quote I got 2 in my corp that are canadian army out on deployment. had many fun matches with them. theyll be back in roughly... 6 to 7 months.
Luther Mandrix Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote USMC 1983-1987
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 788	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:10:00 - [9] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: USMC 1983-1987 2nd Marine AirWing Ground Support Equipment Hydraulicsman I remember when an Airman Basic was powering up a -60 to spool up my F4s engines. The problem was the RPM limiter on the -60 was defective and the -60 went way past the one hundred thousand RPM limit on the turbine. Story later. Yes the F-4 blew up.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 571	Posted - 2013.09.25 23:36:00 - [10] - Quote The only thing I think they benefit in video gaming from having prior military experience is cooperation and teamwork. You'd be surprised just how well organized a bunch of ex military are in games like ARMA II&III. While a typical gamer will just run out guns ablaze, they would setup a perimeter defense and relay any intel they could with each other keeping constant communication. Dust is pretty arcadey, you could play it drunk ffs.

Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 12	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:01:00 - [11] - Quote I was in the Air Force for six years and worked in Security Forces. Got out a few years ago to start college. Had the fun of traveling from Robins to Iraq and then Germany for a little. For my play style and what I can translate to the game I get the most out of skirmishes and pretty much any battle mode that has some relation to it. A lot of flanking, tactical reloads, pieing the corners, suppressive fire and breaching tactics are used plenty. That combined with my natural sneaky tendencies go a long way lol. There is a noticeable difference between military and regular players. They are usually either more tactical or extremely aggressive in using suppressive fire and flanking. Don't really notice any disadvantages so far.
Teeee Bone C0M8AT V3T3RANS 1	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:19:00 - [12] - Quote I was army infantry. Seen extensive combat in Operation Iraqi Freedom 2. Can't compare real combat to dust combat. No respawn in real life. The only thing I notice is I plan more then most. I've created a corp for all combat veterans if anyone is interested. No mic necessary.. C0M8AT V3T3RANS is the corp.
Thor McStrut Reckoners 205	Posted - 2013.09.26 00:24:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: A few of us here over at CCP were wondering how many of you are either former or active members of the military. One of the things that I've found to be really fun is to run into players with formal military training. I might be completely in the wrong, but I've always felt that it's almost an unfair advantage when playing war-themed games! :P Those of you may not know but I previously served in the United States Navy! I wouldn't say that it particularly made me any better at fitting my Dropsuits, but definitely helped in other aspects, such as respecting the power of organized militia and organized play! Okay enough about my opinion, I want to you know yours! Where did you serve? What in regards to video games (specifically DUST514) do you think your training (or extensive military knowledge) gives you an advantage in instant matches, Planetary Conquest skirmishes or Factional Warfare conflicts. Are there any disadvantages? Even if you're not a military or former military member, have you played with or made friends with them? Did you notice anything interesting or specific about that experience? Thank you so much in advance for sharing your story! Former sailor here as well. I was an airdale, ABH2. Served 2 1/2 years in GTMO back in 99, and 2 years aboard the Abe Lincoln. I've been out now longer than I was in though. Still miss it a bit..
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 354	Posted - 2013.09.26 01:04:00 - [14] - Quote o7 to all of you. Thank you for serving your country. No matter what country it was/is, you are a true hero to someone out there :) o7
Mik3 H0nch0 DUST University Ivy League 39	Posted - 2013.09.26 02:39:00 - [15] - Quote 11 year member of the chair force. 2M0X1 here, the biggest thing for me is that I follow directions to a tee when I'm in a squad. No real combat experience on my part. My only deployment I was in the back towing and loading JDAMs, which might explain why I take to Logi...in the rear with the gear.
Raz Sidona M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 33	Posted - 2013.09.26 02:56:00 - [16] - Quote Currently serving In the US Army Reserve. 12W and i do feel it gives me an edge in tactics but i lack the skills to execute them sadly
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 101	Posted - 2013.09.26 03:12:00 - [17] - Quote Active duty Army officer for 16+ yrs mostly in reconnaissance and surveillance and some in other activities. I've had several Iraq and Afghanistan tours. My corp also has a very small core (no pun intended) of retired or current military with similar backgrounds. We do tend to have plan initial actions and contingencies extensively and find ourselves talking in tactical short hand. We organize teams for capabilities and specific mission sets by personnel and equipment they carry and dynamically retask this on the fly. Generally, at least those in our Corp, are significantly less interested in our KDR than our victory tally even in pub matches. From a macro perspective I automatically start looking at FW and PC in terms of target sets, center of gravity analysis, actions to shape the tactical and strategic situation, and opportunities to secure additional capabilities or combat power in the form of allies. In corp, we have have a pretty robust training activity and are continually looking for different tactics, techniques, and procedures. (TTPs) I do find myself often directly applying TTPs from my day job throw ideas around...particualry in combined arms integration...using ground troops, dropships, HAV/LAVs in a synchronized and synergistic fashion.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation 426	Posted - 2013.09.26 04:27:00 - [18] - Quote I was a software developer in the US Air Force. I'm also a special ops washout. So...hooray me?
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 960	Posted - 2013.09.26 05:40:00 - [19] - Quote One of the guys in Zion (back when I was a part of that corp) was from the military. He kept asking us what we were doing, where we were going, what's the plan, what objective are we focusing on... Some people thought he was annoying, but I liked having him in the squad since I always kept constant communication with everyone. The sad part is, not everyone likes being told what to do so I stopped being squad leader, eventually left Zion, and then became a lone wolf. I do my own things now, and would rather just support players in their efforts (logi FTW) than try and win myself. Whether I win or not depends on the organization of my team and how well they can kill the enemy without dying. As long as they stay on the battlefield long enough for me to rep/revive/replenish, I always find myself being successful. At the same time, I know that most players are the "rush in guns blazing" kind of players instead of smart players with tactics, so I use the scanner to let me get the upper hand on them. Either way, I may not have been trained in the army, or have any experience with guns in real life, but I still try and play this game like a game. Besides, most matches don't last long enough for any real tactics to be used, or for enough time to slowly assault a base. In real life you use whatever it takes to win, and you don't complain about someone's gun being better than yours. It's why I like games like this because you have a variety of options and not just "use an automatic weapon to kill people".
Slender Night Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 8	Posted - 2013.09.26 05:40:00 - [20] - Quote Just want to thank all the men and women who have or are serving. The reason we are free to play great games like this is because of your guys sacrifices. You guys ALL deserve recognition. Thanks again guys.

DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 65	Posted - 2013.09.26 06:26:00 - [21] - Quote U.S. Air Force. I use alot of my training and military knowledge in dust actually. Only problem is it put me at a disadvantage when playing with people without military training, because they don't know what I'm doing or what they should be doing.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4286	Posted - 2013.09.26 06:45:00 - [22] - Quote Former United states air force. Pharmacy technician. 314th Medical Support. What? Do you have any idea how much military training I went through to dispense pills?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Top Men. 1315	Posted - 2013.09.26 09:14:00 - [23] - Quote USMC, machinegunner. The knowledge of how to deploy man-portable heavy weapons has served me very well in my personal mission to obliterate vehicles in the game. And eat people in CQC. The Chromosome build was paradise for anyone with aggressive military training, bluntly. Served On Camp Pendleton with 14 months of sea time. In uprising expecting the weapons to behave in a familiar fashion is more or less pointless. The only thing I seem to do really well is squad lead, and on one occasion FC'd a battle in PC and we won before we got bored with PC.
Dante Kretschmer D3LTA ACADEMY 89	Posted - 2013.09.26 10:44:00 - [24] - Quote I've met people in DF who are or were part of the US military, and that's why I enjoy playing with them, we are better organized, communicate a lot, and respect leadership. Teamwork. Actual pew pew experience comes from other shooters.
Foxhound Elite Kinsho Swords Caldari State 363	Posted - 2013.09.26 12:11:00 - [25] - Quote Somebody get Jin t'anith in here, he has quite the military history ...
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1436	Posted - 2013.09.26 12:21:00 - [26] - Quote US Army Reserve, retired. Reserve just meant I had two full time jobs. I wasn't a field guy but I had a part in all the conflicts since 1988. My skills don't translate to anything we have in DUST, yet. Maybe someday they will.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 218	Posted - 2013.09.26 14:09:00 - [27] - Quote USN 97-01 ABH3 (Aviation Boatswain's Mate) AW Stationed on the USS George Washington CVN-73 (Aircraft carrier), based out of Norfolk, VA. I had the unfortunate opportunity to witness the destruction on 9/11 firsthand. Our battle group was already out doing Cert Ops when we got the call to go. We weren't allowed to go into the harbor because we were a nuclear propulsion vessel and there were still unknown risks/paranoia, so we stayed just outside and conducted Air Ops. Anyway, other than being a pretty good leader, my being in the Navy doesn't offer much assistance when it comes to Dust. There are no jets...yet.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 246	Posted - 2013.09.26 14:30:00 - [28] - Quote Well, my corporation (SMERG) formed in EVE in late 2007 after a bunch of guys from my unit (3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment) got back from our second tour in Iraq. We had quite a few of us all banding together, TOTAL noobs, trying to be "mercenaries" in the ruthless world of EVE Online. There was Fightback, Shhaazam, Lowlanderbean, Rakkinechew, Dr1ftw00d, 8inferno8, P-rez. We ended up recruiting a few guys we met online that happened to be in the Army, Tiwatz, Reg'nar, etc etc, and we would bust each other's balls about the branches we were in. I still have a ton of former and active duty guys in my corporation, along with some of those silver-spoon college-kiddy bastards, but sadly most of my old unit buddies have moved on to other games or otherwise dropped off my radar. It's always awesome to recruit a guy in Dust that has some form of military background, even if I sort of find myself rapidly becoming the old dude that used to be in and can't entirely relate to the active duty guys in their first enlistment anymore lol.
Cpl Foster USMC Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 220	Posted - 2013.09.26 15:32:00 - [29] - Quote United States Marine Corps 1991-1996/2001-2002 3521 Automotive Organizational Technician 3522 Automotive Intermediate Mechanic 3531 Motor Vehicle Operator 3533 Logistics Vehicle System Operator 3536 Vehicle Recovery Operator yes, I was a walking, talking one person maintenance shop.... and I find that I flank more than the usual blu-berry...
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1012	Posted - 2013.09.26 16:15:00 - [30] - Quote Active duty Marine Corps Stinger Gunner....so I'm real life AV yo. In regards to swarm launchers: should they be able to 2-hit kill dropships- absolutely Should it be as easy as it is- no I don't feel it gives me a huge advantage, really. I do read the flow of battle and understand squad tactics better than most, but it isn't a game changer for me...I think. Really, I just apply the basics of fire and maneuver to everything and it works. Also, former military guys seem to have much better radio discipline in PC than those who do not. We also tend to be better squad leaders and FCs BC we keep our cool and can make decisions faster and without second guessing ourselves. We need to make a military chat channel.



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