No

If I die towards the end of the match, it doesn't show "25,000 damage received."

Because it requires the user to be in very close range to the vehicle, much like a shotgun does a lot of damage (even OHK), and being at such close range makes it very easy for a tanker to kill the player in just a second.

Because it requires the user to be in very close range to the vehicle, much like a shotgun does a lot of damage (even OHK), and being at such close range makes it very easy for a tanker to kill the player in just a second.

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/539610_10151849545778934_995392485_n.jpg

Now, please tell me again how they are balanced?

No because you didn't live that long to get 25k damage and restore it in one clone.

This is only for that vehicle.

Not entirely sure, but I think the damage done is given to the one who got the last shot in.

So you were probably being pummeled by forges and swarms for about 5-10 minuets, then decided it was time to casually stroll away to rep your health back and some lucky infantry player chucked an AV nade at you for the finishing blow. Thus rewarding him all the damage everybody else was applying to you.

Then can we bring back contact grenades, too? i'll cary 3 k-2s and play grenadier.

Because it requires the user to be in very close range to the vehicle, much like a shotgun does a lot of damage (even OHK), and being at such close range makes it very easy for a tanker to kill the player in just a second.

no. lol. i've been blown up enough times to know what that number is.

Can tanks even be balanced against each other?

The best counter to a tank should be another tank.

I'm sick of lame and boring tank fights because someone on either team has ADV / PRO AV. I want to kill that tank by myself. I'd rather blow up to that tanker than someone running at me and spamming AV grenades.

Then go play world of tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2upxZigECyk

Similar to what AV grenades do, cept hand carried and much smarter.

It's total damage dealt by that player. If he hits you with an AV grenade, you back away and recover, repeat umpteen times, you will see those numbers if he ever actually gets you. And it will show 25000 damage received at the end of the match.

This.

Please continue ignoring it so that you can QQ about how unfair the world to you tankers is some more.

No it isn't. If that were true, the damage would be more like 50,000

Assaults complained about contact grenades, and they got nerfed. We complain about AV grenades, and nothing happens.

Please stop commenting back to me.

Well hello again! I'm sorry to say that you will never get what you want out of HAVs in this game. You see, making HAVs be near invincible irritates people playing infantry, and makes them quit the game after they get stomped by something they aren't able to kill. And there's way more infantry than tankers, so CCP will always side with the infantry crowd, seeing as they make up 95% of Dust's population. Sorry again.

We can only hope.

I want epic tank battles in matches, not some scout running towards me spamming Lai Dais.

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/539610_10151849545778934_995392485_n.jpg

Now, please tell me again how they are balanced?

Because before 1.4 it was fine when we Infantry stubbed our little Toenail to the side of Lav for 10.000 damage while we DONT even have 10.000 HP!!!, also those grenades deal around 1500 damage so whatever caused that must have been a glitch that upped the numbers just like when a LAV hit me for 10k

yeah, only takes 2 guys to deploy, a third to monitor, and needs to be turned off to allow friendly vehicles through the area. it has 4 uses, and someone could just walk up and tip it over.

There is so much similarity, though, right? if you ignore the parts that don't match up, like... uh... most of them.

Hear frickin' hear. I lost four tanks today, one to tank PvP (Great match with a guy named Frisky Dingo) and three to AV players and I am now in the red after eight hours of casual gameplay throughout the day. That is ridiculous and utterly untenable. The AV players SOLO'D me. Can anyone explain the balance in me losing 760,000 isk worth of vehicle to 43,000 isk worth of invisible Wiyrkomi swarms from one guy?

Don't give me the rock/paper/scissors lecture. This game is supposed to be based on escalation and economics like EVE.* When I put out a HAV, I am literally putting two percent of my total net value out on the field and I deserve better results than being forced to hide from EVERYONE. If another player** destroys me with anything less than a concerted group effort, or the use of another tank, then the isk economy in this game is a complete failure and should scrapped entirely.

*Do not try to tell me that smaller ships beat bigger, better armed ones in EVE by themselves. In EVE, it's multiple cheaper ships using zerg tactics to wear down larger ones. In other words, TEAM WORK.

**Don't reference real world events like some mythological "One dude with a rocket launcher" allegedly taking out a tank. In 2003, When the second gulf war started, the United States deployed over 1,000 M1 Abrams tanks into the middle-east. By 2005, a grand total of 80 had been destroyed, or disabled. Those affected tanks were damaged by multiple attackers using RPG's and IEDs, targeting the sides, and hatches of those vehicles. Concerted effort, not "One dude with a rocket launcher."

Murder taxis are still a thing. They just need a running start now, is all.