Well hello again! I'm sorry to say that you will never get what you want out of HAVs in this game. You see, making HAVs be near invincible irritates people playing infantry, and makes them quit the game after they get stomped by something they aren't able to kill. And there's way more infantry than tankers, so CCP will always side with the infantry crowd, seeing as they make up 95% of Dust's population. Sorry again.

Tankers want to sit inside a completely Invulnerable Shell, because it costs more ISK then our suits, yet they lay waste to 2-4m isk of suits per match easy, but oh boy if one of them fights back QQ time!

Sarcastic, but you made a good point here. Portable shielding to hide behind. Chaff grenades that blind tanks, EMP rifles that disable vehicles, hacker modules that let scouts steal occupied tanks. Give tools to the infantry that reward skillful play, and make every game different, not just blanket damage that kills all the fun.

The most sad part of this thread, is that CCP will listen to some of u bItchers and nerf yet another thing in this game making it even worse. i get it i do, snipers want to be unstoppable, tankers need to be almighty, MDs want to be all powerful and heavys want to be walking tanks. but d@mn people are u realizing that ur stupid little comments about sh!t needing to be changed to better suit this game to you, is destroying this game for everyone.

you realize i just said that its the players fault......

i like how people get bits of info. i dont care about tanks anymore it was just part of a list of points. BUT people getting bits of info like that explains why this game is like this now. Cause CCP listens to ADD/ ADHD and just plain stupid people about doing nerfs

quick off topic point
people want this game to be more realistic, but still want aim assist

So 98% of the player base are wrong and CCP should listen to you? This is a game with tanks in it, not a game about tanks. Dust does not revolve around you.

AV nades in no way do that sort of damage to a well fit tank, even the Lai Dai's.

The best way to avoid AV nades is to use a scanner and prioritize maneuverability over heavy plating.

So playing smart and waiting for a good opportunity is considered bad play? Instead he should just rush in head first and let you blow him up? Come on man I know your a good tanker and all but seriously its a good tactic to wait for a prime opportunity to strike.

Void, you make some good points, but an insistence on some sort of archaic system of dueling is ridiculous. When I've popped tanks, I didn't bow first. When other tanks have popped me, they didn't give me a warning shot. If someone is open, you blitz them, that's just common sense. Don't you see how silly it is to castigate infantry for demanding the game be all about what they want, only to demand that other tankers follow your idea of decorum in order to be considered 'tankers?' That's just cliquish.

You've heard wrong. I can take people on fine head on.

Let me explain to you the situation that you are probably referring to.


One of the tankers in the Tanker QQ channel also known as "Tanks R Us" brought out a missile tank. Myself, being a blaster tank made of armor, knows that taking one dead on with open space between us is suicide. I flank to the side and get within CQC before he can shred me down.

He gets butthurt and begs me for ISK.

My tank's build is survivability and speed. I don't play stupid.

You want to play suicidally? Go for it. I won't.

That is a ;legitimate strategy for tanking out tanks that are either superior to you, or players with superior SP, remember tanks weak points are normally in the rear.

I do it all the time to take out Maddies and Gunnlogi's in my Soma.