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Now, please tell me again how they are balanced?

Hear frickin' hear. I lost four tanks today, one to tank PvP (Great match with a guy named Frisky Dingo) and three to AV players and I am now in the red after eight hours of casual gameplay throughout the day. That is ridiculous and utterly untenable. The AV players SOLO'D me. Can anyone explain the balance in me losing 760,000 isk worth of vehicle to 43,000 isk worth of invisible Wiyrkomi swarms from one guy?

Don't give me the rock/paper/scissors lecture. This game is supposed to be based on escalation and economics like EVE.* When I put out a HAV, I am literally putting two percent of my total net value out on the field and I deserve better results than being forced to hide from EVERYONE. If another player** destroys me with anything less than a concerted group effort, or the use of another tank, then the isk economy in this game is a complete failure and should scrapped entirely.

*Do not try to tell me that smaller ships beat bigger, better armed ones in EVE by themselves. In EVE, it's multiple cheaper ships using zerg tactics to wear down larger ones. In other words, TEAM WORK.

**Don't reference real world events like some mythological "One dude with a rocket launcher" allegedly taking out a tank. In 2003, When the second gulf war started, the United States deployed over 1,000 M1 Abrams tanks into the middle-east. By 2005, a grand total of 80 had been destroyed, or disabled. Those affected tanks were damaged by multiple attackers using RPG's and IEDs, targeting the sides, and hatches of those vehicles. Concerted effort, not "One dude with a rocket launcher."

Murder taxis are still a thing. They just need a running start now, is all.

How is that you think you're proving your point, by proving my point? You just conceded that your expensive cruiser would lay waste before being eventually dragged down. Get back to me when your cruiser get solo'd by a frigate.

Kovorix of Matari Exodus [.EXO.] really showcases the raw power of the Omen Navy Issue in the hands of a true pro in this video. Armed only with a T2 fit and a modest clone, Kovorix absolutely lays waste to all comers.

Right on, dude. Kiting is the skill benchmark now. My HAVs totally got kited into those fiery explosions by wry and cunning opponents who suckered me into my doom!

Oh, wait, no. They got got gibbed by solo players using lock-on targeting with overly damaging ordinance. Oh, but they did it skillfully! None of that not rendering in front of my HAV, and using set-it-and-forget-it targeting to score safe and easy War points. SKILL!

Right on, dude. Kiting is the skill benchmark now.

If you want lower damage on an AV grenade, then you should be willing to accept 100% incoming damage from small arms.

Had a tank yesterday just sit there in a group of about 9 people, firing HMG's and Flaylocks and regular grenades into it.. It barely took any damage whatsoever, with no reps on. Flaylocks would do 30% damage, HMG's applied no more than 15.

We have to have some way to counter tanks, since regular weapons don't do it. Get over it already.

SNIPEDIT: Also, There is no way an EX-11 can do that much damage, even against armor. More than likely, you got hit by 5-6 of them because you were too stupid to move away from the person that was sitting on a hive.

Bad tank driver is bad.