I am not a numbers junky in Dust or EvE. What many of you fail to realize is that skills are increasing daily. As the AR was the first mainstay weapon in the game, of course they SEEM overpowered, now. Wait until three months down the road, all of you same individuals, will be crying foul against the Scrambler Rifle, mark my words.

Your arguments are crap. I die far more often to proto and advanced lasers, snipers and scramblers nowadays than to a DuVolle. I can't count the times I have been pinned down with my GEK, unable to counter these weapons and screaming across comms for someone to please deal with the f'ing (insert above weapon of choice), or wishing I had a GLU. And many of these are simply advanced models.

Give it three months and this will be far worse, as these newly released weapons gather the following and skill investment they deserve. As a Logi, I need a versatile weapon, which the assault rifle fills, in three or four subsets. Yes, I should be at a SLIGHT disadvantage inside the niche weapons forte area. I usually am. That's where skill comes in. Again, as the most widely used weapon out there, it doesn't take much brains to figure out that is what most people are SKILLED at, now.

Name any modern army that uses a grenade launcher as it's mainstay weapon.. Or a sniper rifle.. Or a shotgun.. If they did, they would be slaughtered in their first serious battle. Those weapons are niche in real life, too. Because they simply don't do what a good old fashioned rapid fire machine gun does. Whether it is slinging 9mm chunks of lead or something similar, superheated to plasma.

You all nerfed the heavy machine gunner into a joke. A reasonable facsimile of a chain gun would not only mow down an armored warrior, but, the forest he was hiding in. Now a Heavy Gunner is afraid to run across the road, because the truth is, he's in a slow boat to hell. Now you've taken aim at the AR. Stop screaming nerf the ****, and let CCP work on balance. Or the weapons they release in the future are gonna be the future nerf it threads.

Attention: all those who don't want the assault rifle to be needed, unless we protest, and post our opinions in our own threads, I promise CCP will nerf the assault rifle. If you really care, post your own opinions on your own threads. As of right now, more people are protesting for the assault rifle nerf than against it. If you are against it, don't just sit there, let your voice be heard.



In my opinion, the description of the assault rifle says its the most advanced plasma weapon out there, so it needs to stay that way. Now you can respond to this, but make sure you most your own threads too. If you don't, I fear CCP will not hear your voice. I'm not asking you to spam I the place up, just post your own thread on your opinion on why you don't want the assault rifle to be nerfed.

All of those that want the Assault Rifle to be nerfed are nothing but COD fanboys. Don't the lot of you get it? It's an Assault Rifle! Not a submachine gun! Of course it should do the damage that it does! Why not complain more about the scrambler rifles that are deadlier than the Assault Rifles? Jeese! What, you want this game to be like COD or any other cheap game? No? Then don't whine about things that are perfect the way they are. I'm a full out heavy and don't use Assault Rifles, but I completely disagree with this whole nerfing thing. Learn to play, take things like a man, and stop trying to turn a good game into a lame game.

I lied.. Screw crunching numbers! They don't mean crap IN the game, too many variables! Play the game and stop looking at spreadsheets.. The reality is Scramblers are more of a threat on the horizon than the leveled out statistics with regard to the AR. ALOT of people are good with an AR, now. Wait until ALOT of people are good with the newly released weapons. Then the crying is goinna start all over. Get over the fact that there is a mainstream weapon that competes with every other weapon, that's the way REAL combat is... Why is it common sense has to take a back seat to senseless fantasizing about things that simply aren't realistic? What do you propose as a mainstream weapon? There MUST be one.. Call it what you like, combat rifle, assault rifle, scrambler rifle, bolt gun, gotcha gun.. Unless war changes in some untoward manner in the next 10 centuries, there will still be one. No amount of whining is gonna change it.

Really, I hear the COD references all the time, what is your alternative? BF, nope, they have a mainstream weapon, Halo? No thanks, cheesey ass game.. You offer complaints, but, your complaints seem grounded very much in FEELINGS, as well.

I lied.. Screw crunching numbers! They don't mean crap IN the game, too many variables! Play the game and stop looking at spreadsheets..

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The AR is a light weapon so why does it outgun HMGs?

many hmg users do poorly because of failure, to put them selves in the correct range I am not the best player but a decent heavy at close range kills me plenty. It has more to do with those complaining sucking at this game. As for your ascertion that the hmg does not always win against an ar why in the hell do you think its supposed to? They are both PRIMARY weapons, and the ar can be carried by a heavy, is a proto assault with a proto ar not supposed to be able to compete??

all be liberals, sometimes you just have to suffer with bad decisions, there is no bail out, no nerf, heavys are big, but not to big to fail. Get better and stop crying or go play anyone of the other new games out there that lets everyone be fair and equal......

AR is fine, learn to counter it.

I'd rather have the AR be perpetually OP than have some other weapon get nerfed as a result of CCP's attempts to "rebalance" based on community complaints.

The AR is really not that hard to counter, maybe consider not standing still when shooting? or actually using cover? it helps.

Also just to clarify, I am NOT an AR user.

All of those that want the Assault Rifle to be nerfed are nothing but COD fanboys. Don't the lot of you get it? It's an Assault Rifle! Not a submachine gun! Of course it should do the damage that it does! Why not complain more about the scrambler rifles that are deadlier than the Assault Rifles? Jeese! What, you want this game to be like COD or any other cheap game? No? Then don't whine about things that are perfect the way they are. I'm a full out heavy and don't use Assault Rifles, but I completely disagree with this whole nerfing thing. Learn to play, take things like a man, and stop trying to turn a good game into a lame game.

AR is fine, learn to counter it.

I'd rather have the AR be perpetually OP than have some other weapon get nerfed as a result of CCP's attempts to "rebalance" based on community complaints.

The AR is really not that hard to counter, maybe consider not standing still when shooting? or actually using cover? it helps.

Also just to clarify, I am NOT an AR user.

NONO ,do not misunderstand me.
Im not saying the AR is OP,but the fact one weapon fits all roles Kills Diversity.
The TAC still has its range and scope.
The Breach (i actually like it) is an incredible weapon for CQ engagements, pretty much a weapon you can score 95% Headshots while not having to use your aim button,since the ''hip fire'' among other things, is close to perfect at clsoe mid engagements. This results in you being able to move at full movement speed without missing shots. BUT , sadly,is still out DPS'ed by a regular AR at CQ too..
AND the Burst Variant is Highly outgunned by the Regular AR's variants:
More Damage, stable Rof and CQ capabilities. With a very similar , if NOT increased, optimal range.
In order for a game to have variety,different weapons must excell at diferent areas,as it is i think the Regular ARs FIT all.

-I am, currently , Using Assault rifles since i cannot bear to loose to a GEK at 60+mts with my Scrambler rifle anymore. And my aiming is very close to flawless....
I use A GEK, with proficiency 3 and 2 CX Damage mods and i can drop a heavy in 35 less bullets at long range (meaning i have 25 more bullets to drop 1 or 2 med frames)...

i mean. I dont mind if it doesnt get a rebalance, as they say,adapt or die: I'll keep using it them...but it would be healthy for the game i think...

As the term out gun means nothing I cant counter it.

many hmg users do poorly because of failure, to put them selves in the correct range I am not the best player but a decent heavy at close range kills me plenty. It has more to do with those complaining sucking at this game. As for your ascertion that the hmg does not always win against an ar why in the hell do you think its supposed to? They are both PRIMARY weapons, and the ar can be carried by a heavy, is a proto assault with a proto ar not supposed to be able to compete??

all be liberals, sometimes you just have to suffer with bad decisions, there is no bail out, no nerf, heavys are big, but not to big to fail. Get better and stop crying or go play anyone of the other new games out there that lets everyone be fair and equal......

That is the biggest bunch of BS i ever hear ....

In fact, i am convince that you have NEVER tried the AR before, or the SCR. The only thing you know is that it kills you.

I guessing.... Heavy with a HMG ? That is the favorite fit for MAG players, right ?

i bet you got all your ARs and sMGs gold and diamond camo. calm down lvl 15 prestige

No need to panic, CCP only uses Data and Metrics to buff or nerf things, not forums QQing. If they truly listen the ridiculous complaints, the AR will been remove ages ago.

That is the biggest bunch of BS i ever hear ....

In fact, i am convince that you have NEVER tried the AR before, or the SCR. The only thing you know is that it kills you.

I guessing.... Heavy with a HMG ? That is the favorite fit for MAG players, right ?

Flaylock? I never asked for a flaylock nerf, I love it been running it with a pistol in amscout suit the past 2 hours, however its nerf was because it was a sidearm, again lets compare apples to, apples.

All I know is I die from heavies. Perhaps we should ask the number 2 player in the game by kills CHICAGOCUBSFOREVER what he thinks, since he maintains a 5.86 kd with a hmg, how do you think he does it? Maybe some noob heavies should follow him around a game or 2. All I know is that they kill me with my ar, perhaps my anecdotal opinion is just the result of me sucking, but then im not on here asking for a nerf of anything am I?

On top of that what about all you other heavies I see slaughtering speak, up, my corp mate eldongito lay med frames proto down or not all the time,, how about cubs, rasputin9000, tendo hallow, these are all great heavies, the proof is in the game, Idc about all the numbers you nerds spew, great players use team work and find ways to win boundless hmg on a proto sentinel is a monster against anything out there, as formthat movement crap you keep, talking when that boundless hits you it greatly slows you down and hinders movemnt anyone who plays knows that.

Light Machine Guns Diamond
Sniper Rifles Diamond
Shotguns Diamond
Assault Shield Diamond


Got bored after that

i bet you got all your ARs and sMGs gold and diamond camo. calm down lvl 15 prestige