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ShinyJay Destruction Reapers The Superpowers 74	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:34:00 - [31] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ShinyJay wrote: CLONE117 wrote: do any of u ppl even no the difference between accuracy and precision?... lower level ar rnt op... majority of the other guns r better than the ar. in their specific situation.. the ar is designed for multiple situations.. its one of those adapt to current scenario guns... and back to accuracy in precision just for ppl who dont know... precision is basically the grouping of the guns shots.. accuracy is pretty much just the ability to hit your target.. and its not spray and pray with perfect accuracy.. what i have noticed with some of the hit detection is that it looks like it will need tweaking as your reticule can by a little off of the target or while ads pointed close to the target and ull get the hits in.. the other guns r still deadly even with out damage mods more deadly than an ar... so why should a well balanced gun be given an unbalancing drawback? u still have to reload even after firing a single round because if u get caught with less than 60 rounds in your ar you r dead.. this is a futuristic and chaotic universe.. we have power armor!. so why complain with a single gun just because its used more than other guns? its the most common because its the first gun most new players start out with.. and its not a problem since every1 has and can use an ar... these nerf ar theads are just like the remove free lav threads... and every other nerf thread.. the point remains that the assault rifle currently can be countered by everything.. if a gun cant be countered by anything then its op..but if it is countered by everything quite easily its not op... ar is fine..just because it can kill your precious proto doesnt mean its op... and to state true facts here from my current gameplay and matches ive had currently i really havnt seen any reason as to why the ar is op... because game play is still essentially the same...as in 1.3 except the laser got better again.. and lets stop with the dbs crap as it doesnt determine anything all it does is give the highest possible damage the weapon can reach... and this dps can never truly be reached in any of the games unless your target stands still... so stop whining.. and give proper feed back instead of crying about weapon that majority of the players have always used in the beginning and have.. and learn how to stop running into gunfire.. if u can learn how to not run into direct gunfire from a bunch of other players with guns like yours.. then u r on step one to surviving in dust 514.. I will be rude when i say this, but you don't know the difference between the AR's non existant drawbacks compared to some of the huge drawbacks of other guns. the sniper rifle is suppose to be a weapon to be feared, the damage is only around 219 for the ishukone and the charge is only around 310 or so. compared to what the suits can get to now, it's not the weapon it could be. the sniper is not feared if you have well over 350+ HP, which is very easy to come by. the AR right now is easy mode when compared to red line sniping, and that is just sad when i have to say that. let me make a list of advantages for the AR: -range of the LR and SmR -DPS of the SMG and HMG (with their dispersion) -accuracy and precision of the sniper rifle -doesn't suffer much from kick, recoil and overheat like the HMG, laser and scam rifle list of drawbacks: -can't think of any that is noticible people don't run into gun fire, they look around first and see what they can use, but when faced with an AR user, only have less then 3-5 seconds to act or get behind cover. all this is from personal experience as a scout meant to avoid direct fights. i think you need to clean your eyes out and see what is really happening in the game rather then just blindly follow the trend and defend what is clearly broken. ALL weapons need some drawbacks to them that makes other weapons viable while still keeping the broken weapon useable. i don't want to hear what each weapon does in it's niche as the AR clearly dominates them in their roles, as I used the AR against all and came out on top and only lost to someone using a higher tier AR. this game is catering to AR users more then any other players I think some of this is off base, how about less damage to armor? 60 round clip? 300 total ammo? Sharshooter skill that has to be leveled? Range the same as the laser rifle? Totally untrue..... The ar has drawbacks for sure, I use all weapons in the game but I have ar fully speced, I think the problem is aim assist and you dying combine to make this qq storm. Most good players on here are ar users, the problem is the same as with the cal logi suits that they nerfed, competent people using the same weapon doing most of the killing means it must be the weapon. Can't be me...... Can't be that I suck, its the suit, or gun, or module, can't be aim assist, nope its the gun, nerf it, ccp stays chasing its tail with nerfs and buffs because of this behavior right here. Every build something is op, the sub will be next, you people who do this type of crying are just bad, and after you get raped on the next build it will be something else. i will say this, i only have the STD AR with no other skills into anything for it, turned off my auto aim, using a heavy suit just to survive. 60 is more then enough clip size to down a few targets, 300 spare ammo is ok for the gun to survive. if i have almost nothing specced into the AR and doing just as well as someone who is specced into it, there is clearly a problem that must be addressed. i even kill aim assisted people faster then they kill me without aim assist. the AR does well against shields where as other weapons do well against armor. always remember, the first hurdle of killing someone is killing that shield first, then armor becomes easy to deal with using almost any gun.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 937	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:47:00 - [32] - Quote specced to prof 3 now, and yep should be nerfed.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:49:00 - [33] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Jade Hasegawa wrote: AR is one of the guns I am specced into, and you know what kills me the most in game? FORGE GUNS and SHOTGUNS, not AR The AR is getting nerfed in 1.5 anyways (some versions anyways) I belive its recoil should be higher then it is and LOL at the person claiming its DPS is better then a FG lol 37 or so hp per round compared to over 1500 hpfor a FG shot? Yeah the AR out damages there doesnt it? You understand the S in DPS stands for per second right? Not shot. This is why we can't have a nice game. AR users are the stupid majority. Hi, I'm part of the stupid majority, yes we understand dps, do you understand proto forges are doing nearly 3000 per shot? Do you understand forges have splash damage? Do you understand they can be devastating at 3000 damage from almost 3x the range of an ar? Do you understand that one is primarily an anti infantry and the other can take out vehicles installations and infantry? Do you understand that when comparing these two weapons in terms of damage per second you look like an idiot? Btw a rail gun tank doesn't have the same dpps either.......... Your comparing 2 things that have completely diffrent roles in the game and then saying they are not the same, uhhhhh ya. When did dps become the end all be all for this game? Strengths and weaknesses for this game exist far beyond dps, most of you refuse to see the game as it is. Everything is op because I die, boohoo, and because of this ccp nerfs this or that because they don't have the sack to tell you to get better. This constant rebalancing as the idiots in ccp call nerfs and buffs are just playing to the crowd from build to build making it worse and then having to fix that problem next time and we never really get to move forward bc of these nerfs and buffs. Most of these weapons are all ready fairly well balanced, this is just an exercise in dumb from some qqing baddys that like to compare apples and oranges, stop looking at dps alone and consider every aspect of the weapon, including its role, most nerfs I've seen including cal logi and shields which still rapes btw because it was always about the player in the suit not the suit, has been the result of people simply not understanding the pros and cons of the item.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 119	Posted - 2013.09.12 17:59:00 - [34] - Quote lol oh that's funny, my only concern is...this game takes place how many thousands of years in the future? Why the hell do assault rifles still exist, seems pretty archaic. I would think the standard weapon of the future would be like a particle beam or something. Anyway the assault rifle has long range and deals alot of damage, accept that. Anyone would say it needs a nerf but I just think other guns need a buff for their specific roles, shotgun definitely needs more range, smgs should definitely have higher dps in their range, etc. It's amazing that dps actually matters now that you can pretty much hit people with every shot.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:04:00 - [35] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: lol oh that's funny, my only concern is...this game takes place how many thousands of years in the future? Why the hell do assault rifles still exist, seems pretty archaic. I would think the standard weapon of the future would be like a particle beam or something. Anyway the assault rifle has long range and deals alot of damage, accept that. Anyone would say it needs a nerf but I just think other guns need a buff for their specific roles, shotgun definitely needs more range, smgs should definitely have higher dps in their range, etc. It's amazing that dps actually matters now that you can pretty much hit people with every shot. The ar is a plasma weapon dude, that's pretty futuristic, don't think we got those yet, the range is very specific, and you only land everyshot if the target is to stupid to move the left analog stick left and right or backwards and forwards as they are being shot. I don't get how you all can't see this became a problemmafter we got aa? Its not the weapons it baddys and aim assist.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1673	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:15:00 - [36] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: lol oh that's funny, my only concern is...this game takes place how many thousands of years in the future? Why the hell do assault rifles still exist, seems pretty archaic. I would think the standard weapon of the future would be like a particle beam or something. Anyway the assault rifle has long range and deals alot of damage, accept that. Anyone would say it needs a nerf but I just think other guns need a buff for their specific roles, shotgun definitely needs more range, smgs should definitely have higher dps in their range, etc. It's amazing that dps actually matters now that you can pretty much hit people with every shot. The ar is a plasma weapon dude, that's pretty futuristic, don't think we got those yet, the range is very specific, and you only land everyshot if the target is to stupid to move the left analog stick left and right or backwards and forwards as they are being shot. I don't get how you all can't see this became a problemmafter we got aa? Its not the weapons it baddys and aim assist. Oh, it was definitely a problem before AA. It just took AA for more people to wake up.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:23:00 - [37] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: lol oh that's funny, my only concern is...this game takes place how many thousands of years in the future? Why the hell do assault rifles still exist, seems pretty archaic. I would think the standard weapon of the future would be like a particle beam or something. Anyway the assault rifle has long range and deals alot of damage, accept that. Anyone would say it needs a nerf but I just think other guns need a buff for their specific roles, shotgun definitely needs more range, smgs should definitely have higher dps in their range, etc. It's amazing that dps actually matters now that you can pretty much hit people with every shot. The ar is a plasma weapon dude, that's pretty futuristic, don't think we got those yet, the range is very specific, and you only land everyshot if the target is to stupid to move the left analog stick left and right or backwards and forwards as they are being shot. I don't get how you all can't see this became a problemmafter we got aa? Its not the weapons it baddys and aim assist. Oh, it was definitely a problem before AA. It just took AA for more people to wake up. The problem is its the most popular weapon in the game it has aa and your dying from it, that's all.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 339	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:47:00 - [38] - Quote all this nerf ar crap is really starting to annoy me... i have better solution to ar prob.. lets just buff lasers to where they were before uprising and see who starts screaming next..
ShinyJay Destruction Reapers The Superpowers 74	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:52:00 - [39] - Quote ok so if these are futuristic guns, shouldn't they all not have recoil, kick, dispersion, range? shouldn't they have laser scopes and other future tech? a shotgun in the future should be able to shoot out all pellets at once in a straight line without moving left, right, up and down. don't use future as the basis. if the AR is plasma based, why it is firing bullets instead of light? no logic at all
Vell0cet Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 194	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:59:00 - [40] - Quote The AR is too good at too many things. Hopefully when we get the combat rifle and the precision rifle, the AR will get a smaller band of effective range with the other guns filling in the gaps.

Ku Shala Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 461	Posted - 2013.09.12 19:15:00 - [41] - Quote can i get a fresh soda with a side of bacon ?
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 19:51:00 - [42] - Quote ShinyJay wrote: ok so if these are futuristic guns, shouldn't they all not have recoil, kick, dispersion, range? shouldn't they have laser scopes and other future tech? a shotgun in the future should be able to shoot out all pellets at once in a straight line without moving left, right, up and down. don't use future as the basis. if the AR is plasma based, why it is firing bullets instead of light? no logic at all Your kind of slow eh?
ShinyJay Destruction Reapers The Superpowers 76	Posted - 2013.09.12 20:22:00 - [43] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ShinyJay wrote: ok so if these are futuristic guns, shouldn't they all not have recoil, kick, dispersion, range? shouldn't they have laser scopes and other future tech? a shotgun in the future should be able to shoot out all pellets at once in a straight line without moving left, right, up and down. don't use future as the basis. if the AR is plasma based, why it is firing bullets instead of light? no logic at all Your kind of slow eh? how am i slow? this is dust which is set in the future, right?
Ferindar The Malevolent Monkey Militia 59	Posted - 2013.09.12 20:32:00 - [44] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: General12912 wrote: I am an AR scrub who wants this game to be nothing more than cod in space. I believe the AR is the only viable wepon ad the improved hit detection and aim assist have finally allowd me to twich shoot most other suits to death in kes than 2 seconds. I much prefer this kind of twich and skill less game play, as I lack the fundamental skills to strafe and utalise cover effectively. I would even go as far to say my AR isnt quite powerfull enough as I cant solo HAVs with it. CCP please fix it so I can. Also any other AR scrubs who fancy backing me up on turning this game into COD514 then please sign bello so CCP dosent take away our win button. At least you can admit it. This thread in a nutshell. Also, I'm legally mentally handicapped and I can tell you that the AR is too good.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 734	Posted - 2013.09.12 20:46:00 - [45] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: It's better then a Every heavy weapon. It's OP. Why are we still discussing its OPness? No its not OP its the AA combined with hit detection. Crappy players can suddenly shoot straight which is causing everyone grief. CCP just needs to take away AA and make crappy players crappy again.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 20:52:00 - [46] - Quote ShinyJay wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ShinyJay wrote: ok so if these are futuristic guns, shouldn't they all not have recoil, kick, dispersion, range? shouldn't they have laser scopes and other future tech? a shotgun in the future should be able to shoot out all pellets at once in a straight line without moving left, right, up and down. don't use future as the basis. if the AR is plasma based, why it is firing bullets instead of light? no logic at all Your kind of slow eh? how am i slow? this is dust which is set in the future, right? Ya but plasma doesn't mean shooting light, considering how fast the plasma round travels how could you possibly discern bullet from plasma? You can't bc on top of it being the future its also a game, this is how it is atm.....
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 20:53:00 - [47] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: It's better then a Every heavy weapon. It's OP. Why are we still discussing its OPness? No its not OP its the AA combined with hit detection. Crappy players can suddenly shoot straight which is causing everyone grief. CCP just needs to take away AA and make crappy players crappy again. Agreed.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 21:02:00 - [48] - Quote I'm not going to buy that something is ever op from baddys with neg ratio, low kills, and no wins, much less experience, you get some of the top 250 players in here saying its op then maybe we can talk. These scrubs just aint used to a game like this, hell you got aim bots just get your own ar....
ShinyJay Destruction Reapers The Superpowers 78	Posted - 2013.09.12 21:15:00 - [49] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ShinyJay wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ShinyJay wrote: ok so if these are futuristic guns, shouldn't they all not have recoil, kick, dispersion, range? shouldn't they have laser scopes and other future tech? a shotgun in the future should be able to shoot out all pellets at once in a straight line without moving left, right, up and down. don't use future as the basis. if the AR is plasma based, why it is firing bullets instead of light? no logic at all Your kind of slow eh? how am i slow? this is dust which is set in the future, right? Ya but plasma doesn't mean shooting light, considering how fast the plasma round travels how could you possibly discern bullet from plasma? You can't bc on top of it being the future its also a game, this is how it is atm..... i played and seen games where i shot plasma and i clearly saw a big ball of light that makes it a plasma gun. no matter how fast, you always saw a form a light that is speeding. the AR is firing bullets from what i see. the laser rifle is firing off lights that you can clearly see, and light is suppose to be fast and not seen.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 899	Posted - 2013.09.12 21:33:00 - [50] - Quote General12912 wrote: Attention: all those who don't want the assault rifle to be needed, unless we protest, and post our opinions in our own threads, I promise CCP will nerf the assault rifle. If you really care, post your own opinions on your own threads. As of right now, more people are protesting for the assault rifle nerf than against it. If you are against it, don't just sit there, let your voice be heard. In my opinion, the description of the assault rifle says its the most advanced plasma weapon out there, so it needs to stay that way. Now you can respond to this, but make sure you most your own threads too. If you don't, I fear CCP will not hear your voice. I'm not asking you to spam I the place up, just post your own thread on your opinion on why you don't want the assault rifle to be nerfed. You're jumping the gun. The scrambler will get nerfed long before the assault rifle. The assault rifle will NEVER, EVER, EVER... EVVVVERR - NEVER- be nerfed. The one time it WAS nerfed, it was rebuffed within a month. Calm your spirit. It won't happen.

Thurak1 Psygod9 161	Posted - 2013.09.12 21:36:00 - [51] - Quote I hope AR's get nerfed into oblivion along with mass drivers.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 978	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:11:00 - [52] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: General12912 wrote: In my opinion, the description of the assault rifle says its the most advanced plasma weapon out there, so it needs to stay that way. That's the worst excuse against a nerf that I've ever heard! in the description of the heavy suit it says its "designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and explosives". so, if you want to go by the descriptions then make my heavy suit immune to all light weapons and explosives. in the description of the HMG it says that it is nicknamed "death machine" so it should OHK any suit based on that description. the burst HMG should kill through walls if we use its description. the list goes on and on for weapons that don't accomplish what the description says, or that were nerfed regardless of their description. ie.e. flaylocks. nerf ARs
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 978	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:14:00 - [53] - Quote General12912 wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: It needs its range nerfed down by a lot. Like A LOT. The range isnt the reason most people have a problem, its the dps. Anyways it seems to me that those who have always wanted the assault rifle nerfed are finding a perfect excuse as to why. That way, their mass drivers/other guns they arent good at using are stronger than the ar and therefore, easier to lose. ITS A WAR GAME, EXPECT TO BE KILLED!! so please explain why the FLaylock was nerfed? its a war game, and it killed people. Flaylockers never complained about ARs. in fact before 1.4 there was very little complaint about ARs. but, ARs have been complaining endlessly since chromosome. thats why they need a nerf. there is really nothing left to nerf. in fact AR users are now trying to double nerf guns like the MD. enough is enough. get nerfed scrub.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3161	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:17:00 - [54] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: General12912 wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: It needs its range nerfed down by a lot. Like A LOT. The range isnt the reason most people have a problem, its the dps. Anyways it seems to me that those who have always wanted the assault rifle nerfed are finding a perfect excuse as to why. That way, their mass drivers/other guns they arent good at using are stronger than the ar and therefore, easier to lose. ITS A WAR GAME, EXPECT TO BE KILLED!! so please explain why the FLaylock was nerfed? its a war game, and it killed people. Flaylockers never complained about ARs. in fact before 1.4 there was very little complaint about ARs. but, ARs have been complaining endlessly since chromosome. thats why they need a nerf. there is really nothing left to nerf. in fact AR users are now trying to double nerf guns like the MD. enough is enough. get nerfed scrub. The flaylock was nerfed because you barely had to aim to kill the target. The splash area was excessively large and it did enough damage in that zone to make accurate aiming unnecessary. The damage itself was plenty enough to wreck most suits in one clip as well, which could be fired off within a second. Also, 'there is really nothing left to nerf' is a terrible reason for a nerf. How can you bash on someone for having bad reasoning and then come up with that?
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 978	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:19:00 - [55] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: It's better then a Every heavy weapon. It's OP. Why are we still discussing its OPness? If you want more information on why it is OP and needs a nerf I have the official thread right here. If you want ARs nerfed support this thread. link your own articles here: The official nerf AR thread with links and Math
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 342	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:20:00 - [56] - Quote flaylock was nerfed due to a single group of individual players completely annihilating everything solo... getting on average per match around over 50-70 kills a game with it by using nothing but flaylocks... so yeah it was op... it can still kill decently though just not annihilate an entire team solo...
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3161	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:22:00 - [57] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: It's better then a Every heavy weapon. It's OP. Why are we still discussing its OPness? If you want more information on why it is OP and needs a nerf I have the official thread right here. If you want ARs nerfed support this thread. link your own articles here: The official nerf AR thread with links and Math Do you know the definition of official? That is definitively not official.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 981	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:22:00 - [58] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: D legendary hero wrote: General12912 wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: It needs its range nerfed down by a lot. Like A LOT. The range isnt the reason most people have a problem, its the dps. Anyways it seems to me that those who have always wanted the assault rifle nerfed are finding a perfect excuse as to why. That way, their mass drivers/other guns they arent good at using are stronger than the ar and therefore, easier to lose. ITS A WAR GAME, EXPECT TO BE KILLED!! so please explain why the FLaylock was nerfed? its a war game, and it killed people. Flaylockers never complained about ARs. in fact before 1.4 there was very little complaint about ARs. but, ARs have been complaining endlessly since chromosome. thats why they need a nerf. there is really nothing left to nerf. in fact AR users are now trying to double nerf guns like the MD. enough is enough. get nerfed scrub. The flaylock was nerfed because you barely had to aim to kill the target. The splash area was excessively large and it did enough damage in that zone to make accurate aiming unnecessary. The damage itself was plenty enough to wreck most suits in one clip as well, which could be fired off within a second. Also, 'there is really nothing left to nerf' is a terrible reason for a nerf. How can you bash on someone for having bad reasoning and then come up with that? thank you. with the new Aim Assist, and hit detection you barely have to aim with an AR. And in 15 bullets which is 25% of a clip you can kill any suit with less than 500 ehp. A militia AR can kill a proto heavy with 1591 ehp in 3.4 seconds. So, by your own reason the flaylock was "OP" the AR was and still is very OP and needs a nerf in fact the milita AR can kill your average heavy with 1100 ehp in 2.2 seconds out o 50m. a flaylock could never do that...lol also, the fact that eveything is vastly inferior to the AR is enough reason to nerf it. flaylock and other guns were nerfed for less. as a side note the flaylock only had three rounds in its clip and only needed a fire rate reduction. but even as it was it still only excelled in CQC, where ARs are not supposed to excel.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 981	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:27:00 - [59] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: flaylock was nerfed due to a single group of individual players completely annihilating everything solo... getting on average per match around over 50-70 kills a game with it by using nothing but flaylocks... so yeah it was op... it can still kill decently though just not annihilate an entire team solo... let me show you something; the galente assault rifle needs to be nerfed due to a groups of individual players completely annihilating everything solo... getting on average per match around over 50-70 kills a game with it by using nothing but ARs... so yeah it is op... it can kill even better with 1.4 and obliterate entire team solo... ^^this is the current game. the same reason you wanted the flaylocks nerfed is the same reason we want the AR nerfed.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC TYRANNY of EVIL MEN 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 23:58:00 - [60] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: CLONE117 wrote: flaylock was nerfed due to a single group of individual players completely annihilating everything solo... getting on average per match around over 50-70 kills a game with it by using nothing but flaylocks... so yeah it was op... it can still kill decently though just not annihilate an entire team solo... let me show you something; the galente assault rifle needs to be nerfed due to a groups of individual players completely annihilating everything solo... getting on average per match around over 50-70 kills a game with it by using nothing but ARs... so yeah it is op... it can kill even better with 1.4 and obliterate entire team solo... ^^this is the current game. the same reason you wanted the flaylocks nerfed is the same reason we want the AR nerfed. I don't want to see anything nerfed, I thought flaylocks were fine, as far as 50 70 kills , killing whole team blah blah that's all lies and you know it.



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