I made a thread a long time ago that was talking about this exact issues. CCP ignored me as well.

Seems like the only people that can spawn on your uplinks outside of your squad is the squadless. Makes a whole lot of sense there.

I've first noticed this in PC when the only uplinks that worked for the whole were the imperials.

Honesty I have search and tested tons. There is not one answer from ccp online nwhere and im talking literally dozens of times asked...and honestly i have visually seen what you said is true be not true.....and I have seen it be true as well....I think its a mega glitch that is being consealed like water gate...honesty if you seach it tell me you dont see CCP dodge answering this question a dozn times??

lol...Uplinks are made and used for teams The only uplinks that can be used by squads only are militia uplinks. Some uplinks can only have 2 at a time online at the same time. Some can only have 1, and some you can drop up to 3 active at the same time. I don't know what you have been reading but someone is giving you some mixed information. If you use uplinks that allow only one to be used at a time or two, it will remove the first one you tossed out, so you will be destroying your own uplinks. Hope my information helped you to better understand uplinks. This is coming from a person who has uplinks all the way to lvl 5

Still no fact just tons of opposing positions on the arguement..A Dev will come soon.

Your almost Correct. Other squads can spawn in on your Militia Drop uplinks.
Just did it 10 seconds ago.

I dont know where this confusion is coming from. Team Wide, Nothing has changed,

Your almost Correct. Other squads can spawn in on your Militia Drop uplinks.
Just did it 10 seconds ago.

I dont know where this confusion is coming from. Team Wide, Nothing has changed,

This

However, something seems to be glitching for me, the other day i could not highlight even my own uplinks on the map, and sometimes they colour changed (traitors!) Posted it in the bugs thread but no responses. I run scout,and infiltrate with the intent of getting the team access to objectives and solid positions, the role works well, when the uplinks work

Couldve sworn they said squad uplink was gonna be their own uplink variant so it might be a mistake or a bug that only your squad can spawn on an uplink that isnt designated squad-only. Did they even implement squad only uplinks? They would certainly say so in patch notes if they did.

Sometimes that's lag, or if uplinks are up in high places, you have to adjust your zoom on the map.

That's not true, militia uplinks are squads only. If that was the case I would have never cared to spec into them.

Your almost Correct. Other squads can spawn in on your Militia Drop uplinks.
Just did it 10 seconds ago.

I dont know where this confusion is coming from. Team Wide, Nothing has changed,

Something has changed and the decrease in WP speaks for itself. I have been known to regularly have 3,000+ WP matches without so much as firing a single shot because the amount of spawns my uplinks would produce was incredible. That has fallen off significantly since 1.4. Furthermore, tests also show that something has changed. Simply switch squads throughout the game during a pub match and you'll notice how the locations of all the active uplinks changes as you go back and forth between the squads. Something is up, guys. Trust me.

Something has changed and the decrease in WP speaks for itself. I have been known to regularly have 3,000+ WP matches without so much as firing a single shot because the amount of spawns my uplinks would produce was incredible. That has fallen off significantly since 1.4. Furthermore, tests also show that something has changed. Simply switch squads throughout the game during a pub match and you'll notice how the locations of all the active uplinks changes as you go back and forth between the squads. Something is up, guys. Trust me.

from what you and skippy have said. Switching squads, does that have something to do with it?
I tried to test that as well, but It wouldnt let me. "you cannot Join a Squad allready deployed in battle"

but why? im standing right next to the guy.

So ya I wasn't even able to switch squads.

Maybe your WP's are down because Uplinks are much harder to find now and don't need to be spammed. So they have there own to spawn in on still.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

I honestly think its a glitch that is related to the squads nt getting in together and the system is confused as to who is in wich squad or team....and its leaking back to the uplinks..also with the team chat sticking could be something

Very weird indeed, Shouldn't make a difference, because if you are running solo or in a squad, anybody can spawn on them. (verified , -Source. ME! wasted all damn morning watching blues poop out of my uplinks and recording the data )

Me too!!!

Thats why i think its a glitch because i have different results amost each time i test it.

I made a thread a long time ago that was talking about this exact issues. CCP ignored me as well.

Seems like the only people that can spawn on your uplinks outside of your squad is the squadless. Makes a whole lot of sense there.

I've first noticed this in PC when the only uplinks that worked for the whole were the imperials.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

Hang tight guys an answer is coming

Optimistic, good luck. I hope they do answer your questions, but here it is almost 2 months later and I am still waiting to find out what the correct time for my cal logi suits shield recharge delay rate should be - is the delay supposed to be 5 or 6 (& what ccp got wrong the number in the patch notes or the dev blog or in game)?

Any given moment your uplinks are going to work or they are not, why not ask ccp too, why some player can deploy their non-proto uplink on top of the one I drop making it un-accessable because no one can actually choose it because they appear to occupy the same location, no matter what you do to the map zoom.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

vita app question thread over 5 months old...

Undocumented changes (intentional ones) aren't cool, it leaves me wondering if CCP is incompetent (writing in notebooks is hard yo) or deceitful (they'll totally never notice these little game breaking tweaks) either way its not really acceptable interaction between a small player base and a company that claims to care about player input.

Uh huh.

I wouldn't recommend anyone hold their breath while waiting on this one.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

Good because the current system is horrible.

There was some (typically weak) documentation regarding a few uplinks being squad specific but not All Of Them! Hopefully this is another typical glitch from CCP/Shanghai and not the intended purpose.

What this does is make people Not squad up, then they allow more players to use the uplinks.

I get the most points running solo now.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

If you use anything OTHER then proto links, NO ONE WILL SPAWN ON THEM! Unless last resort!

I have ALL unlocked and have seen NO DIFFERENCE in spawns/payouts! Still making 500k a match, 3000+WP
I have had no problems spawning on my own links.
I only run proto links and NEVER squad up!
Location is everything!

while your at it if you don't mind find out whats up with this too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJANCjFcFtU&feature=youtu.be

Its gonna take me hundreds of replies and still mght not get answers from CCP...ask your own quetion....in your own thread...lol jk

Now I'm confused again, what is wrong with your uplinks? I have tested/retested and all of mine work just like before.

All uplinks I use mlt through r-9, work team wide as they should. In squad, not in a squad, didn't matter at all. I still get plenty of points from them. If the spawn point is still valid, they still work as described.

I am getting the bug where it shows an uplink in the spawn screen that can't be selected. That is because the link is destroyed and it just has not updated yet.

Are your links disapeering when you squad hop or something?

Now I'm confused again, what is wrong with your uplinks? I have tested/retested and all of mine work just like before.

All uplinks I use mlt through r-9, work team wide as they should. In squad, not in a squad, didn't matter at all. I still get plenty of points from them. If the spawn point is still valid, they still work as described.

I am getting the bug where it shows an uplink in the spawn screen that can't be selected. That is because the link is destroyed and it just has not updated yet.

Are your links disapeering when you squad hop or something?

Did a DEV go in there and say they were coming back with an answer?


I intend to repost on this thread every waking hour untill they tell us, just to keep it at the top of the list....

I think there is a bug with spawn points on the overhead map not updating correctly. Next time it happens spawn in somewhere near said uplink and recheck the map or see if it is still actually there. What I noticed was the uplink was destroyed, but still on the spawn screen.

This morning I went through every uplink I had access to and watched both non squads and squads use my uplinks. Both while I was in a squad and out of a squad. I'm not sure why my squad would be any different, or there is something else borked up. But the functionality of the drop links have not been changed.

yes they did

drop uplinks in a squad......leave squad....you or nobody in your new squad can use the first uplinks..in essense if you leave your squad you cant use your own uplinks to spawn back in.....


You dont think you should be able to use your own damn uplinks that you dropped?

Well. You have prototype droplinks so you can answer the question for yourself pretty easily.

put your self in a squad. lock it. so you know it isnt your buddy spawning in.
join a match, put down your uplinks.
collect +25's
????


It used to be squad only, If PC is different, then yes a dev would probably have to make that a bit more clear.
I would finish verifiing the other uplinks, But its pretty boring dropping them down and waiting for somebody to poop out, and check if they are in a squad or not.

Good luck.

Sounds like a bug to me. put It in the tech support thread. Not sure what kind of answer you expect from a dev.

the answer he promised two pages ago...

I would be careful skippy. You're likely to end up getting yourself banned from the forum for "thread bumping."

They'll do the same thing with this thread as they do with every thread that asks a simple question that they for some reason can't give a simple answer to; they'll either wait for someone to get too aggressive or bump the thing too many times and lock it, or they'll just let it fade into obscurity.

If thy are gonna do that they are gonna do it with 500 views and 80 replies and in front of everybody wich woud be just fine by me, would prove my point that there is somthing sneaky going on.


Are uplinks for team or squad? i shouldnt need a Computer developer to answer that ... a customer service agent should be able to answer that question...thanks for the heads up thugh it is appreaciated....if they bump this thread watch how many Logi's hammer back with the same question..

The communitty knows somethngs up and they have to own it..bump me or not

+ gotta say that if i spent the whole day just trying to get a simpLe answer from CCP and get nothing ...WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A FORUM ANYWAY? SO ILL GO IN PEACE;)

I have been polite....and semi calm...it just urks me that they said they were looking into it and i havnt heard anything back from a simple question thats all :)

lol...Uplinks are made and used for teams The only uplinks that can be used by squads only are militia uplinks. Some uplinks can only have 2 at a time online at the same time. Some can only have 1, and some you can drop up to 3 active at the same time. I don't know what you have been reading but someone is giving you some mixed information. If you use uplinks that allow only one to be used at a time or two, it will remove the first one you tossed out, so you will be destroying your own uplinks. Hope my information helped you to better understand uplinks. This is coming from a person who has uplinks all the way to lvl 5

Funny that you underlined the wrong parts of your own post.

That is not correct.
Militia, normal, hacked, advanced and proto links work the same.

The same being:
Pub games: Links are free for all.
PC matches: Links are squad only.

Couldve sworn they said squad uplink was gonna be their own uplink variant so it might be a mistake or a bug that only your squad can spawn on an uplink that isnt designated squad-only. Did they even implement squad only uplinks? They would certainly say so in patch notes if they did.

I know for a fact that if you drop uplinks while in a squad, only your squad can use them. If you drop uplinks not in a squad, then ANYONE can use them.

If you've ever been in a squad by yourself and you see an uplink to spawn on, it's someone else's uplink on your team obviously (unless the uplink you're looking at is yours).

Not true. The "no-squad squad" is in effect a squad, so anything dropped in there is accessible to all those in the same "no-squad squad".

Please remember that in pub games there's no limitations on who can spawn on a link, only in PC games where restrictions apply.

Thats false...sorry buddy..go in a pubmatch with a squad....lay an uplink....switch to a diffent squad ...no uplinks...even for you..you cant even use your own uplinks when you swich squad in PUB

bump

Everyone can see and use your uplinks. That's how its always been and it has not changed. In PC you can also use the other squads uplinks. I don't know where that guy from seraphim gets his info. There is a bug or something wrong that is causing me to not be able to spawn in on uplinks sometimes. Or you wont be able to see them. This is happening even more since this patch. Everyone seems to have their own differing problem with the uplinks but when working properly anybody on your team not squad can see the uplink and the same for PC. The rules are not different.

I havnt seen one single statement anywhere with regards to there being a proble with the uplinks...glitch wise...i invite you to post any link that tells me who can acsess my uplinks..other than someones opinion

not true ive tested this 25 dfferent ways today

I play the game everyday with my full squad and I use high ground and good tactics. Lots of times I stand almost on top of my uplink so I can see lots of other ppl spawning there. Not too mention the blueberries don't know what an uplink looks like. Most of the times mine are the only ones in a Domination. My friend in my squad couldn't spawn on uplinks the other day. I was lookin at one and he was in my squad and he couldn't see it on his map. Or it will be on the map but not let you spawn. Both things can happen. Im right and if you need an official announcement then I don't know what to tell you.

Im also not giving you an opinion im stating facts. Believe me or wait. Your choice

Then you have problems. Officially

So your saying a squad of 1, in regards to drop links is treating it as not being in a squad.
And your saying, if you switch squads mid battle the uplinks revert back to the days of squad only for you?
I don't do pc so I can't confirm /deny spawns there.

They used to fizzle out like other equipment when put on angles or bad spots. Thought they had a solution to that. (See the sliding RE video above)

And also, it's Sunday Ccp is out

Hey Guys I need help!

I have had several exchanges on the forums about who uses the uplinks (team/squad) and that there has been some sort of change going on with them.

I hve searched google and the forums and have literally found dozens of threads and hndreds of opinions but not one factual statement from CCP.

Can you guys please clear this up with everybody because many need to know.

I have proto uplinks for a reason and if you guys just went and made them squad only with out putting it in the patch notes or letting anyone know that would be pretty rude i think...just saying.

So Please Clarification on...

1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players?

2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team?

3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us?

4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused?

5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad?

6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too....


Please CCP something officiall. I promise never to rant and rave again about the battle finder if you give me a good clear answer...

Thank you in advance

Skippy678

switch back to the squad and...you can have the uplinks back

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

I think I trust your word on this more than the message that has been given out in the past. There has been some contradictory messaging. Considering how this seems to behave adds a lot of trust too!

Please leave it team spawn.

I'm thrilled that Wolfman says that uplinks are supposed to be team-based, but something is wrong in New Eden, bros. Uplinks are simply not working properly in all cases. I've experienced this recently in pub and pc matches alike. There is a bug causing major inconsistencies in their performance.

And Wolfman...logis love their team-based links. Please don't change this! This is one of the main reasons why we're valued in the game, why we make a difference.

a squad of one is considered "squadless" and is like an independant blueberrie...i think...lol

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.

Currently there is no setting on a droplink that would allow us to make it squad only. I will ask our QA to do some checking to see if some other factor is messing with their behaviour.

I would also really appreciate it if someone could collate the various issues you are having with them in a single post so I can look them over in one place.

Cheers :-)

Currently there is no setting on a droplink that would allow us to make it squad only. I will ask our QA to do some checking to see if some other factor is messing with their behaviour.

I would also really appreciate it if someone could collate the various issues you are having with them in a single post so I can look them over in one place.

Cheers :-)

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Currently there is no setting on a droplink that would allow us to make it squad only. I will ask our QA to do some checking to see if some other factor is messing with their behaviour.

I would also really appreciate it if someone could collate the various issues you are having with them in a single post so I can look them over in one place.

Cheers :-)

To be quite honest, i have no idea where the assumption it was squad based even came from.

Not like the dozen uplinks that appear on the map each game have anything to do with someone outside your squad.

Subdreddit runs qsyncs regularly, multiple squads pretty much all day every day. About 50% of the time uplinks are squad only, and there doesn't seem to be any discernable rhyme or reason as to why. There are all sorts of wives tales about what it is exactly, but they range from "it's based on meta level" to "certain variants" being squad only... but when pressed no one can ever pin down exactly which is which. I assume this is because the mechanics for uplinks are just broken.

In our corp, it's to the point where people consistently ask "hey xyz squad, can you guys see this uplink in in xyz location?"... and about half the time the answer is "no."

Currently there is no setting on a droplink that would allow us to make it squad only. I will ask our QA to do some checking to see if some other factor is messing with their behaviour.

I would also really appreciate it if someone could collate the various issues you are having with them in a single post so I can look them over in one place.

Cheers :-)

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.

I did some digging and we have found a small issue with network replication that can cause some irregularities with droplink selection and the droplinks made available.

Thanks for the prod.

Fixing...

its because you never squad up that you dont see the difference.

Added drop uplinks not being available to the whole team all the time. We're aware of the issue and we've got a fix in the works, no time frame for deployment yet but we'll let you known as soon as we do.

We also have fixes for more faction warfare battles and deaths in vehicles counting twice going out today. Please report back if you're having further issues with either of these.

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.

Subdreddit runs qsyncs regularly, multiple squads pretty much all day every day. About 50% of the time uplinks are squad only, and there doesn't seem to be any discernable rhyme or reason as to why. There are all sorts of wives tales about what it is exactly, but they range from "it's based on meta level" to "certain variants" being squad only... but when pressed no one can ever pin down exactly which is which. I assume this is because the mechanics for uplinks are just broken.

In our corp, it's to the point where people consistently ask "hey xyz squad, can you guys see this uplink in in xyz location?"... and about half the time the answer is "no."

Here it comes just wait for it....................I told you so.

This is not the information I received through a support ticket. This leaves me in doubt as to what information source to trust.

I did some digging and we have found a small issue with network replication that can cause some irregularities with droplink selection and the droplinks made available.

Thanks for the prod.

Fixing...

What does your support ticket say may I ask?

Hi,

The Drop Uplinks work as follows:
- If you are in a Squad, everyone in your Squad will be able to spawn using your Drop Uplink.
- If you are not in a Squad, everyone in your team will be able to spawn using your Drop Uplink.
- If you have the Hacked Drop Uplink, everyone can spawn using it even if you are in a Squad.

Different quality of Drop Uplinks have different respawn delays, copies carried or spawn counts. We checked your last few battles and in most of them you were in a squad alone. If you use the Drop Uplink in that situation, only you will able to use it, as you are the only Squad member. Our suggestion is to check before entering in battle if you are part of a squad or not. If you want to support your whole team with your Drop Uplink, you should leave the Squad before entering in battle.

Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

There's also the question of why have hacked drop uplinks if all uplinks are the same?

I did some digging and we have found a small issue with network replication that can cause some irregularities with droplink selection and the droplinks made available.

Thanks for the prod.

Fixing...

Then you have problems. Officially

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Thanks for the info! I would like uplinks to have two versions, one set the way they are, the other a tactical variant that only allows squad members.

Call it a Tactical variant with a slightly higher fitting cost and a very low or even instant spawn timer and maybe even give it some more health 400-500 and an increased ISK cost.

There needs to be a limit on the amount of uplinks deployed per squad

the strategy of "all 16 people run proto uplinks and drop them EVERYWHERE" is just stupid.

There's a compelling reason for it, establishing a beachhead.

It does two things:

1) Allows for rapid re-deployment
2) Helps keep everyone together and not trickle in where everyone is continuously outnumbered.


As long as nothing else takes its place DUs will be packed as tightly as the game and player skills/fittings allow.

i'm of two minds about the DU. As a dropship pilot I know they effectively replace me as a transport mechanism. Nobody wants to spawn and wait at the bus stop or taxi stand to get back to the fight. Once single link is placed close enough that is what will be used. Even one will kill my taxi business.

As a Logi I love them. Domination can yield hundreds of points if I don't have much competition.

Funny that you underlined the wrong parts of your own post.

That is not correct.
Militia, normal, hacked, advanced and proto links work the same.

The same being:
Pub games: Links are free for all.
PC matches: Links are squad only.

Basically I and others have run into games where we can only spawn at certain spawn pads. For me only remember running into it on skirmish maps. Basically I could see a number of available drop uplinks on the map and only be able to spawn at the points or one or two others (that I am guessing my squad had placed, but I haven't tested that.
The problem seems to be spread to others as well as I have heard complaints on the forums about uplinks not being used except by squad members.
Then in other games they would work as intended.
I can't remember any other details that would help you at the moment.

No this basically boils down to zerg rush tactics..Died in combat near the objective? No problem, choose one of the 35 uplinks scattered around the map and throw yourself at the objective again!

There is no other game I can think of that allows deployment of infinite spawn points, and it's an obnoxious chore to run around shooting 350,000 uplinks during one PC match.

There needs to be a limit on uplinks so you actually need to use tactics and logic to place them, and not "LOL BLANKET THE ENTIRE MAP IN DROP UPLINKS"

When it says in the description of the hacked uplink usable by everyone...it means militia...thats why people were getting confused.

Maybe wolfman will get back and let us know which is right

I once laid six uplinks and changed suits only to find that every one of them disappeared from my radar.

They came back later after I respawned. I suspect it was part of the buggy behavior.

Hacked links are not militia.
Hacked used to have special functionality, tested last in late Chromosome.
Since uprising, no longer.

I think its clear that there is a glitch or something with dozens of these replies stating as such...including multiple people testing it...so touche...but I,m not sure its an "i told you so"... lol... I think tht this thread has made it very clear that th uplinks are not working properly? no?

We should be hotfixing the problems we found tomorrow if all goes well.

i saw a dev post from i think ccp logibro saying only hacked uplinks can be used by your whole team

Source?
If it is what I remember it's way old, something like from change of 2012-2013.

Personally, as the usual link specialist for my squad, I think a personal limit of 3 is crazy talk. It is way too low and would kill an entire style of play - yes, mine, but beyond my selfish motivation it would more or less nerf the entire logi class pretty hard, we've taken a lot of hits recently as it is. Squad limits make some sense, and I used to be a fan of the team limit solution but your point about it being too random is well taken. The more I think about it, the more I actually like the personal cap better.

My proposals:

1) A cap on total links per squad or team is less desirable, but it should be liberal. I've seen people make suggestions like single-digit team limits, which just like a per-person limit of 3 is way too low. At minimum it should be 16, one per team member overall. Obviously a squad limit would be lower if you went that way, but then what do you do with non-squadded players?

2) A personal cap is probably a more controllable solution, but like everything else it should be skill-based, not just a blanket limit. You could do it one of two ways:

- Make it it's own skill, like the weapon proficiency skills, but you should unlock it at level 3, not 5 like weapons. If you did it that way then you should reduce the SP cost of the links themselves to offset the new requirement. Lets set it at everyone can drop 1 uplink to start. You get to ADV links and that opens up the proficiency skill. You go up to 2 links at level 1, and one more link for each level, with a bonus at ADV and PRO levels. So, uplink proficiency level 2 gets you 3 links, level 3 gets an additional 1+1 for 5 total, and so on until you get to level 5, you can drop 8 links at a time. Even as an admitted drop uplink WP *****(another word for prostitute), I see no legit reason to need to drop more than that at once.

- Base it on the existing skill, using more or less the same numbers. This is a simpler solution but would probably not reduce the spam all that much.


You could obviously also use both type of caps (personal and team/squad) but if you did both the exact numbers I'm using would probably need to be tweaked, primarily in that the team cap should definitely be higher than 16 if you also imposed personal caps. Also, while on the subject, can anyone confirm that there is in fact NO upper limit on the number of links that can be deployed at once?

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

I understand that you currently find yourself getting a lot of warpoints from uplinks, and it's hard to hear others push for a change that hurts you personally. However, the reality is that not capping the total uplinks on the field in some way to somwhere in the range of 2 or 3 for each objective substantially effects gameplay in a negative way.

With a cap of say, 16 total per team, , we're still talking about 6 uplinks per objective on 5 point maps and 8 per objective on 4 point map. If you don't think that is enough uplinks, I don't even know what else to say. If you ask me, that's still way too many.

With that many uplinks on the field, every game mode is turned into a game of TDM.

I'm having a little trouble with the maths here. How does a limit of 16 uplinks per team equal 6 per objective? Are you talking about both teams combined?

Anyway, like I said, the team cap isn't likely to reduce the spam much. The personal cap, like I outlined, would probably work better. I'm going to start a feedback thread specifically on this plan in the near future I think.

I would say different people play different rolls and capping an individual s uplinks would be like saying only 4 AR's per match, or only 4 tanks a round ( I have been spammed by everything in this game...tanks...dopships,grenades... should we limit these items too because sometimes there is too many?....never gonna happen...

Allowing objective or mobile spawning AT ALL changes the game.

Don't bother quibbling about the specific numbers, they will be used in the quantity required to achieve the effect of creating an unbreakable supply chain for the defenders. Improve the two R's of repping and resurrection and you will require fewer, make them easier to find and you need a few more. The number will self adjust to get the desired effect.

You would have to totally eliminate drop uplinks if you want to be able to chip away at a defender's position. As long as you can tuck an uplink in a place inaccessible from the front door the defender will be able to spawn back into the fight.

If the uplinks are accessible you can always toss a flux to clear a huge swath of land. It matters not if there is one or five in the radius of the flux, all are gone.

I would say different people play different rolls and capping an individual s uplinks would be like saying only 4 AR's per match, or only 4 tanks a round ( I have been spammed by everything in this game...tanks...dopships,grenades... should we limit these items too because sometimes there is too many?....never gonna happen...

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Good news everyone!

Fix for this should be going out today. As always, if you're still having problems please report back and we'll get right on it.