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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:02:00 -
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Hey Guys I need help!
I have had several exchanges on the forums about who uses the uplinks (team/squad) and that there has been some sort of change going on with them.
I hve searched google and the forums and have literally found dozens of threads and hndreds of opinions but not one factual statement from CCP.
Can you guys please clear this up with everybody because many need to know.
I have proto uplinks for a reason and if you guys just went and made them squad only with out putting it in the patch notes or letting anyone know that would be pretty rude i think...just saying.
So Please Clarification on...
1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players?
2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team?
3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us?
4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused?
5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad?
6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too....
Please CCP something officiall. I promise never to rant and rave again about the battle finder if you give me a good clear answer...
Thank you in advance
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:14:00 -
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CCP can fix this right now..... |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:37:00 -
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Do you know the answer CCP? maybe they dont even know.... |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:51:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:I made a thread a long time ago that was talking about this exact issues. CCP ignored me as well.
Seems like the only people that can spawn on your uplinks outside of your squad is the squadless. Makes a whole lot of sense there.
I've first noticed this in PC when the only uplinks that worked for the whole were the imperials.
I just tried this and none of squad could use the ones i dropped pre joining including me....
CCP yur telling me i cant even use my own damn uplinks if i switch squads ...really? WTF
Honestly the people are saying this is a question you have been avoiding....answers please....
I will post the **** out of this like spam untill i get an answer.
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:58:00 -
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CCP Logibro posted 20 minuites ago....they see it |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:37:00 -
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?
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:14:00 -
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Honesty I have search and tested tons. There is not one answer from ccp online nwhere and im talking literally dozens of times asked...and honestly i have visually seen what you said is true be not true.....and I have seen it be true as well....I think its a mega glitch that is being consealed like water gate...honesty if you seach it tell me you dont see CCP dodge answering this question a dozn times?? |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:37:00 -
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Still no fact just tons of opposing positions on the arguement..A Dev will come soon. |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:44:00 -
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Im proto uplinks...i have my suits to max out as many as possible up to five using the peramiters givin in there operation......the only thing that I know for sure is that they changed something and didnt tell us or there is a glitch......either way maybe Im wrong... i got 15 million skillpoints with those uplinks over the last 8 months so Im as educated as it gets when it comes with regards to uplinks...or i thought...
the only thing I can garuantee is that Something is different...I know for sure.
i will be looking for the wording in the instruction book next...
CCP? I posted in the feedback area as well to try and get some results. |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:47:00 -
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i think they changed it and just dont want the LOGI's to uproar.... thats why they arnt sayin anything.....or?
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:48:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Couldve sworn they said squad uplink was gonna be their own uplink variant so it might be a mistake or a bug that only your squad can spawn on an uplink that isnt designated squad-only. Did they even implement squad only uplinks? They would certainly say so in patch notes if they did.
They have said nothing in the patch notes i have hunted
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:19:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:Something has changed and the decrease in WP speaks for itself. I have been known to regularly have 3,000+ WP matches without so much as firing a single shot because the amount of spawns my uplinks would produce was incredible. That has fallen off significantly since 1.4. Furthermore, tests also show that something has changed. Simply switch squads throughout the game during a pub match and you'll notice how the locations of all the active uplinks changes as you go back and forth between the squads. Something is up, guys. Trust me.
I AGREE SirMan...100% there is something changed, without any notice at all. Honestly after our thead earlier i have been trying to test them....There ARE factors we dont know about...
Honestly though guys try looking for any answer on any site or any forum and youll believe that there is something super fishy going on here...
I will continue to update and repost on this thread untill we have an answer..you should all join me in the continued diligence on this one and we will get our answers!!!! |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:28:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:SirManBoy wrote:Something has changed and the decrease in WP speaks for itself. I have been known to regularly have 3,000+ WP matches without so much as firing a single shot because the amount of spawns my uplinks would produce was incredible. That has fallen off significantly since 1.4. Furthermore, tests also show that something has changed. Simply switch squads throughout the game during a pub match and you'll notice how the locations of all the active uplinks changes as you go back and forth between the squads. Something is up, guys. Trust me. from what you and skippy have said. Switching squads, does that have something to do with it? I tried to test that as well, but It wouldnt let me. "you cannot Join a Squad allready deployed in battle" but why? im standing right next to the guy. So ya I wasn't even able to switch squads. Maybe your WP's are down because Uplinks are much harder to find now and don't need to be spammed. So they have there own to spawn in on still.
I can switch between squads and dropped uplinks and they are only available to the squads i deployed them in...as per testing today. when solo in a locked squad...somebody uses them..not sure who but somebody. I can switch squads freely though after waiting like 20 seconds for team chat to load...and when i do this i notice a large difference in WP!
I can tell you that the way i get the most points is running solo right now...just sayin and its pretty dumb when its more profitable to run solo in a war game.. not very realistick is it.
If you deploy uplinks and then change squads EVEN YOU cant use your own uplinks unless you go back to that squad!! |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:30:00 -
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I honestly think its a glitch that is related to the squads nt getting in together and the system is confused as to who is in wich squad or team....and its leaking back to the uplinks..also with the team chat sticking could be something |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:31:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.
Honestly, Logibro is my new favorite. Im pretty excited to find this out...
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:50:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:skippy678 wrote:I honestly think its a glitch that is related to the squads nt getting in together and the system is confused as to who is in wich squad or team....and its leaking back to the uplinks..also with the team chat sticking could be something Very weird indeed, Shouldn't make a difference, because if you are running solo or in a squad, anybody can spawn on them. (verified , -Source. ME! wasted all damn morning watching blues poop out of my uplinks and recording the data )
Me too!!!
Thats why i think its a glitch because i have different results amost each time i test it. |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:05:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Provolonee wrote:skippy678 wrote:I honestly think its a glitch that is related to the squads nt getting in together and the system is confused as to who is in wich squad or team....and its leaking back to the uplinks..also with the team chat sticking could be something Very weird indeed, Shouldn't make a difference, because if you are running solo or in a squad, anybody can spawn on them. (verified , -Source. ME! wasted all damn morning watching blues poop out of my uplinks and recording the data ) Me too!!! Thats why i think its a glitch because i have different results amost each time i test it.
We will know soon enough
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:07:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:I made a thread a long time ago that was talking about this exact issues. CCP ignored me as well.
Seems like the only people that can spawn on your uplinks outside of your squad is the squadless. Makes a whole lot of sense there.
I've first noticed this in PC when the only uplinks that worked for the whole were the imperials.
I tested the imperials and they act no different |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:15:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight.
Hang tight guys an answer is coming
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:41:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:skippy678 wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight. Hang tight guys an answer is coming Optimistic, good luck. I hope they do answer your questions, but here it is almost 2 months later and I am still waiting to find out what the correct time for my cal logi suits shield recharge delay rate should be - is the delay supposed to be 5 or 6 (& what ccp got wrong the number in the patch notes or the dev blog or in game)? Any given moment your uplinks are going to work or they are not, why not ask ccp too, why some player can deploy their non-proto uplink on top of the one I drop making it un-accessable because no one can actually choose it because they appear to occupy the same location, no matter what you do to the map zoom.
CCP Logibro has already posted saying that he will look ino this....If he wasnot going too he would have never of responded....honestly based on what people are saying they feel like its being hidden from us somehow so they really pretty much have to answer..
I'm a little concerned because they have to "figure" it out. You would think it easy to tell us how a piece of equiptment works? but hy...Logibro will be back |
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:43:00 -
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50 replies in an hour.. claiming shadyness...there will be a counter soon :) lol
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:50:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:vita app question thread over 5 months old...
Did a DEV go in there and say they were coming back with an answer?
I intend to repost on this thread every waking hour untill they tell us, just to keep it at the top of the list....
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:53:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Undocumented changes (intentional ones) aren't cool, it leaves me wondering if CCP is incompetent (writing in notebooks is hard yo) or deceitful (they'll totally never notice these little game breaking tweaks) either way its not really acceptable interaction between a small player base and a company that claims to care about player input.
unintentional sure... it happens...but honestly dust my WP by upto 40% on a double skill point weekend... im gonna be upset glitch or not....and if they post that they changed them without telling anybody your gonna see the uprising of the Logi's |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:05:00 -
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it took me about 3 seconds to laugh !!
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:07:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight. Good because the current system is horrible. There was some (typically weak) documentation regarding a few uplinks being squad specific but not All Of Them! Hopefully this is another typical glitch from CCP/Shanghai and not the intended purpose. What this does is make people Not squad up, then they allow more players to use the uplinks.
I get the most points running solo now.
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:08:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Alright guys, I'll ask some questions and get some answers on drop uplinks. Hang tight. Good because the current system is horrible. There was some (typically weak) documentation regarding a few uplinks being squad specific but not All Of Them! Hopefully this is another typical glitch from CCP/Shanghai and not the intended purpose. What this does is make people Not squad up, then they allow more players to use the uplinks. I get the most points running solo now.
and honesly i have been looking online for any answer in documentation or anything..in fact i can assure you that none of them in the description says anything regarding who they work on..at all!! |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:15:00 -
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its because you never squad up that you dont see the difference.
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:17:00 -
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DJINN MUSTARD wrote:If you use anything OTHER then proto links, NO ONE WILL SPAWN ON THEM! Unless last resort!
I have ALL unlocked and have seen NO DIFFERENCE in spawns/payouts! Still making 500k a match, 3000+WP I have had no problems spawning on my own links. I only run proto links and NEVER squad up! Location is everything!
I have acsess to every uplink in the game |
skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:18:00 -
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Its gonna take me hundreds of replies and still mght not get answers from CCP...ask your own quetion....in your own thread...lol jk
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:34:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:Now I'm confused again, what is wrong with your uplinks? I have tested/retested and all of mine work just like before.
All uplinks I use mlt through r-9, work team wide as they should. In squad, not in a squad, didn't matter at all. I still get plenty of points from them. If the spawn point is still valid, they still work as described.
I am getting the bug where it shows an uplink in the spawn screen that can't be selected. That is because the link is destroyed and it just has not updated yet.
Are your links disapeering when you squad hop or something?
drop uplinks in a squad......leave squad....you or nobody in your new squad can use the first uplinks..in essense if you leave your squad you cant use your own uplinks to spawn back in.....
You dont think you should be able to use your own damn uplinks that you dropped?
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:38:00 -
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Are uplinks for team or squad?
CCP why do you have to "find out" you should know.
How many hours shoud it take to answer that question man???
You dont have any problem selling me AUR/cash uplinks but you cant even tell me if there for team or squad OR if you changed it recently?? Do yo have to call Shanghi for an answer too that???
If its a glitch admit it and ill let it go...honest.
Or a secret PM and a backdoor deal to a solo respec and ill remove the thread and go away ;) |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:41:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:I think there is a bug with spawn points on the overhead map not updating correctly. Next time it happens spawn in somewhere near said uplink and recheck the map or see if it is still actually there. What I noticed was the uplink was destroyed, but still on the spawn screen.
This morning I went through every uplink I had access to and watched both non squads and squads use my uplinks. Both while I was in a squad and out of a squad. I'm not sure why my squad would be any different, or there is something else borked up. But the functionality of the drop links have not been changed.
I spent my entire day testing uplinks and demanding answes here...lol
I know for sure when your in a squad they are squad only and when your in a squad solo they are for all the blueberries as well however in a few tests with my corp we had uplinks available at certain times that i dropped in other squads... |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:42:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:skippy678 wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:vita app question thread over 5 months old... Did a DEV go in there and say they were coming back with an answer? I intend to repost on this thread every waking hour untill they tell us, just to keep it at the top of the list.... yes they did
they said they would answer and then didn't...that must have been someone other than CCP Logibro...hhe will come through |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:44:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:skippy678 wrote:Still no fact just tons of opposing positions on the arguement..A Dev will come soon. Well. You have prototype droplinks so you can answer the question for yourself pretty easily. put your self in a squad. lock it. so you know it isnt your buddy spawning in. join a match, put down your uplinks. collect +25's ???? It used to be squad only, If PC is different, then yes a dev would probably have to make that a bit more clear. I would finish verifiing the other uplinks, But its pretty boring dropping them down and waiting for somebody to poop out, and check if they are in a squad or not. Good luck.
when i rock a solo squad it appers that the uplinks are available to my self and all squdless bluberries
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:46:00 -
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We have 25% as many replies as the actual 1.4 feedback thread... and almost 500 views, if they didnt come back with an nswer there would be a poopstorm...plus i will continue keeping this thread at the top of the list with continued diligence and it will snowball...they will answer just to be able to put this thread to bed. |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:47:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:skippy678 wrote:Provolonee wrote:Now I'm confused again, what is wrong with your uplinks? I have tested/retested and all of mine work just like before.
All uplinks I use mlt through r-9, work team wide as they should. In squad, not in a squad, didn't matter at all. I still get plenty of points from them. If the spawn point is still valid, they still work as described.
I am getting the bug where it shows an uplink in the spawn screen that can't be selected. That is because the link is destroyed and it just has not updated yet.
Are your links disapeering when you squad hop or something? drop uplinks in a squad......leave squad....you or nobody in your new squad can use the first uplinks..in essense if you leave your squad you cant use your own uplinks to spawn back in..... You dont think you should be able to use your own damn uplinks that you dropped? Sounds like a bug to me. put It in the tech support thread. Not sure what kind of answer you expect from a dev.
the answer he promised two pages ago...
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:48:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Provolonee wrote:skippy678 wrote:Provolonee wrote:Now I'm confused again, what is wrong with your uplinks? I have tested/retested and all of mine work just like before.
All uplinks I use mlt through r-9, work team wide as they should. In squad, not in a squad, didn't matter at all. I still get plenty of points from them. If the spawn point is still valid, they still work as described.
I am getting the bug where it shows an uplink in the spawn screen that can't be selected. That is because the link is destroyed and it just has not updated yet.
Are your links disapeering when you squad hop or something? drop uplinks in a squad......leave squad....you or nobody in your new squad can use the first uplinks..in essense if you leave your squad you cant use your own uplinks to spawn back in..... You dont think you should be able to use your own damn uplinks that you dropped? Sounds like a bug to me. put It in the tech support thread. Not sure what kind of answer you expect from a dev. the answer he promised two pages ago...
+ i posted this in the feedback thread as well with out response
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:55:00 -
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?
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:02:00 -
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soon guys |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:22:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote: I would be careful skippy. You're likely to end up getting yourself banned from the forum for "thread bumping."
They'll do the same thing with this thread as they do with every thread that asks a simple question that they for some reason can't give a simple answer to; they'll either wait for someone to get too aggressive or bump the thing too many times and lock it, or they'll just let it fade into obscurity.
If thy are gonna do that they are gonna do it with 500 views and 80 replies and in front of everybody wich woud be just fine by me, would prove my point that there is somthing sneaky going on.
Are uplinks for team or squad? i shouldnt need a Computer developer to answer that ... a customer service agent should be able to answer that question...thanks for the heads up thugh it is appreaciated....if they bump this thread watch how many Logi's hammer back with the same question..
The communitty knows somethngs up and they have to own it..bump me or not
+ gotta say that if i spent the whole day just trying to get a simpLe answer from CCP and get nothing ...WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A FORUM ANYWAY? SO ILL GO IN PEACE;) |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:25:00 -
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I have been polite....and semi calm...it just urks me that they said they were looking into it and i havnt heard anything back from a simple question thats all :) |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:27:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:I have been polite....and semi calm...it just urks me that they said they were looking into it and i havnt heard anything back from a simple question thats all :)
even when someone said they werent going to answer like "the psvita" app question..i defended them and said they would most surely return with an answer...
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:29:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Funny that you underlined the wrong parts of your own post. That is not correct. Militia, normal, hacked, advanced and proto links work the same.The same being: Pub games: Links are free for all. PC matches: Links are squad only.
I promise you that right now links are squad only in Pub match 100% unless you are in a squad by yourself then all solo players get to use them |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:32:00 -
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its just funny to see how many DIFFERENT opinions there are with not one based in fact other than ....last week....or imperial only...or hacked or in pub match....it just shows that the communitty is not informed and this defines what this forum is for....if they dont feel like a thread of this size demands some attention with a simple answer then there are bigger problems then aimbot here and ill start my GTA5 up in week or so |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:42:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Couldve sworn they said squad uplink was gonna be their own uplink variant so it might be a mistake or a bug that only your squad can spawn on an uplink that isnt designated squad-only. Did they even implement squad only uplinks? They would certainly say so in patch notes if they did.
i failed to see this in any patch notes
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skippy678
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:46:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I know for a fact that if you drop uplinks while in a squad, only your squad can use them. If you drop uplinks not in a squad, then ANYONE can use them.
If you've ever been in a squad by yourself and you see an uplink to spawn on, it's someone else's uplink on your team obviously (unless the uplink you're looking at is yours).
Not true. The "no-squad squad" is in effect a squad, so anything dropped in there is accessible to all those in the same "no-squad squad". Please remember that in pub games there's no limitations on who can spawn on a link, only in PC games where restrictions apply.
Thats false...sorry buddy..go in a pubmatch with a squad....lay an uplink....switch to a diffent squad ...no uplinks...even for you..you cant even use your own uplinks when you swich squad in PUB |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:47:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I know for a fact that if you drop uplinks while in a squad, only your squad can use them. If you drop uplinks not in a squad, then ANYONE can use them.
If you've ever been in a squad by yourself and you see an uplink to spawn on, it's someone else's uplink on your team obviously (unless the uplink you're looking at is yours).
Not true. The "no-squad squad" is in effect a squad, so anything dropped in there is accessible to all those in the same "no-squad squad". Please remember that in pub games there's no limitations on who can spawn on a link, only in PC games where restrictions apply. Thats false...sorry buddy..go in a pubmatch with a squad....lay an uplink....switch to a diffent squad ...no uplinks...even for you..you cant even use your own uplinks when you swich squad in PUB
switch back to the squad and...you can have the uplinks back
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:56:00 -
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thank you x 2 |
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superjoe360x wrote:Everyone can see and use your uplinks. That's how its always been and it has not changed. In PC you can also use the other squads uplinks. I don't know where that guy from seraphim gets his info. There is a bug or something wrong that is causing me to not be able to spawn in on uplinks sometimes. Or you wont be able to see them. This is happening even more since this patch. Everyone seems to have their own differing problem with the uplinks but when working properly anybody on your team not squad can see the uplink and the same for PC. The rules are not different.
not true ive tested this 25 dfferent ways today
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:58:00 -
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I havnt seen one single statement anywhere with regards to there being a proble with the uplinks...glitch wise...i invite you to post any link that tells me who can acsess my uplinks..other than someones opinion |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:15:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:skippy678 wrote:I havnt seen one single statement anywhere with regards to there being a proble with the uplinks...glitch wise...i invite you to post any link that tells me who can acsess my uplinks..other than someones opinion I play the game everyday with my full squad and I use high ground and good tactics. Lots of times I stand almost on top of my uplink so I can see lots of other ppl spawning there. Not too mention the blueberries don't know what an uplink looks like. Most of the times mine are the only ones in a Domination. My friend in my squad couldn't spawn on uplinks the other day. I was lookin at one and he was in my squad and he couldn't see it on his map. Or it will be on the map but not let you spawn. Both things can happen. Im right and if you need an official announcement then I don't know what to tell you. Im also not giving you an opinion im stating facts. Believe me or wait. Your choice
There are at least 6 people in this thread that have spent the day discussing and testing this over and over ..... including a Dev coming in saying that they were going to look into it..... I have earned 15 million skill points 75% throught the use of uplinks...and even if i tell you this is happening its not fact...CCP will tell us the facts on this one..eventually...i have played at least 30 matches today wearing 3 diff. specific suits made just to drop uplnks and i have gone out of the way of play just to reigiouly drop uplinks to change squad and see what is going on.....there are a half dozen other people in this thread saying the same thing...I want to keep the energy of this thread posiive as to not give anybody a reason to squash it without an answer :)
Havnt played in PC in a bit and i cant speak about what goes on there right now
we"ll figure it out
there is a chance that different people are having different experiences as well ") |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:17:00 -
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a squad of one is considered "squadless" and is like an independant blueberrie...i think...lol |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:18:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:skippy678 wrote:superjoe360x wrote:Everyone can see and use your uplinks. That's how its always been and it has not changed. In PC you can also use the other squads uplinks. I don't know where that guy from seraphim gets his info. There is a bug or something wrong that is causing me to not be able to spawn in on uplinks sometimes. Or you wont be able to see them. This is happening even more since this patch. Everyone seems to have their own differing problem with the uplinks but when working properly anybody on your team not squad can see the uplink and the same for PC. The rules are not different. not true ive tested this 25 dfferent ways today Then you have problems. Officially
agreed
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:21:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:So your saying a squad of 1, in regards to drop links is treating it as not being in a squad. And your saying, if you switch squads mid battle the uplinks revert back to the days of squad only for you? I don't do pc so I can't confirm /deny spawns there.
They used to fizzle out like other equipment when put on angles or bad spots. Thought they had a solution to that. (See the sliding RE video above)
And also, it's Sunday Ccp is out
a DEV already posted and said he was going to find out,,he said hold tight
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:52:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:skippy678 wrote:Hey Guys I need help!
I have had several exchanges on the forums about who uses the uplinks (team/squad) and that there has been some sort of change going on with them.
I hve searched google and the forums and have literally found dozens of threads and hndreds of opinions but not one factual statement from CCP.
Can you guys please clear this up with everybody because many need to know.
I have proto uplinks for a reason and if you guys just went and made them squad only with out putting it in the patch notes or letting anyone know that would be pretty rude i think...just saying.
So Please Clarification on...
1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players?
2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team?
3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us?
4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused?
5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad?
6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too....
Please CCP something officiall. I promise never to rant and rave again about the battle finder if you give me a good clear answer...
Thank you in advance
Skippy678 * Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. * Not atm. * No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while. * I don't think they would be related. * You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there. * Because right now it can only do team spawn. We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.
Thank you for clearing it up. I am pretty happy about that because it means thery are still getting me the WP. On that note my uplinks were not working today properly and im sure there a couple other in here who started this thread out who would agree that there is an issue with thm but honestly I like that response. and ill take it. its amazing how different from the truth some people are on both sides of it including myself... I know almost for sure no that when somebody types in a goole box "are uplinks for squad or team dust 514" .... This thread will help them....
P.S. a squad only version would be loved by me. it would save me a dropship a day i bet from the blueberry repo men
Thank you,,,i think i was lagging hard today
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Posted - 2013.09.09 02:53:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:
* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. * Not atm. * No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while. * I don't think they would be related. * You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there. * Because right now it can only do team spawn.
We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.
I think I trust your word on this more than the message that has been given out in the past. There has been some contradictory messaging. Considering how this seems to behave adds a lot of trust too! Please leave it team spawn.
there is only the facts.
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Posted - 2013.09.09 03:26:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:I'm thrilled that Wolfman says that uplinks are supposed to be team-based, but something is wrong in New Eden, bros. Uplinks are simply not working properly in all cases. I've experienced this recently in pub and pc matches alike. There is a bug causing major inconsistencies in their performance.
And Wolfman...logis love their team-based links. Please don't change this! This is one of the main reasons why we're valued in the game, why we make a difference.
I happy too...and i had the same challenges with them today too, my squad was doing the tests with me so it was prob uber lag..or something like that.. but super happy we got a reference to go to when this comes up again |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:30:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Duran Lex wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Currently there is no setting on a droplink that would allow us to make it squad only. I will ask our QA to do some checking to see if some other factor is messing with their behaviour.
I would also really appreciate it if someone could collate the various issues you are having with them in a single post so I can look them over in one place.
Cheers :-) To be quite honest, i have no idea where the assumption it was squad based even came from. Not like the dozen uplinks that appear on the map each game have anything to do with someone outside your squad. Subdreddit runs qsyncs regularly, multiple squads pretty much all day every day. About 50% of the time uplinks are squad only, and there doesn't seem to be any discernable rhyme or reason as to why. There are all sorts of wives tales about what it is exactly, but they range from "it's based on meta level" to "certain variants" being squad only... but when pressed no one can ever pin down exactly which is which. I assume this is because the mechanics for uplinks are just broken. In our corp, it's to the point where people consistently ask "hey xyz squad, can you guys see this uplink in in xyz location?"... and about half the time the answer is "no."
This is Very True.. Yesterday when % minuites before i started this thread I read a post from Sirmanboy stating that the Uplinks were reverted to squad..I replied to him reassuring him they were "team" based...he said they werent. I had notced a drop in WP lately and less ISK..so i went online made a couple suits filled with uplinks ...got my corp and started testing.
I love that wolfman jumped on to help us out an im glad that My Uplinks didnt get nerfed... but here are a gathering of a few facts i picked up yesterday with the challenges the uplinks are having
-I was not able to spawn at my own uplinks after switchng squads, I wouls say sometimes but I never saw that theory disproven in 3 hours with my corp
-My uplinks were creating less WP income since 1.4...30% less give or take, probably not being seen lag or iduno
-I was laying uplinks in 3 ways..solo/solosquad and with each squad in the game. The one thing That I know for sure is that during the testing the uplinks were switching availability...I would get to the spawn in screen and some of my uplinks werent there....I could literaly switch squads and watch the uplinks change their availability to me depending on the squad i was on.
-One match I didnt get a single "team spawn" +25points even taking 100 or o of their clones and owning an uplink on3-4 premium spots.
- I have noticed some challenges with the uplinks before but it got messed up the most on the weekend if that helps you guys
I think maybe there s something wierd going on and Im glad were are on it...If you guys have any good feedback about th challenges your having with your uplinks post em up here and lets give CCP a little hand.. I know there is ton of info just from all the things that i have seen in this thread
Thanks Guys
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:38:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:skippy678 wrote:Hey Guys I need help!
I have had several exchanges on the forums about who uses the uplinks (team/squad) and that there has been some sort of change going on with them.
I hve searched google and the forums and have literally found dozens of threads and hndreds of opinions but not one factual statement from CCP.
Can you guys please clear this up with everybody because many need to know.
I have proto uplinks for a reason and if you guys just went and made them squad only with out putting it in the patch notes or letting anyone know that would be pretty rude i think...just saying.
So Please Clarification on...
1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players?
2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team?
3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us?
4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused?
5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad?
6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too....
Please CCP something officiall. I promise never to rant and rave again about the battle finder if you give me a good clear answer...
Thank you in advance
Skippy678 * Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. * Not atm. * No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while. * I don't think they would be related. * You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there. * Because right now it can only do team spawn. We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that. Here it comes just wait for it....................I told you so.
I think its clear that there is a glitch or something with dozens of these replies stating as such...including multiple people testing it...so touche...but I,m not sure its an "i told you so"... lol... I think tht this thread has made it very clear that th uplinks are not working properly? no?
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:39:00 -
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Stile451 wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. This is not the information I received through a support ticket. This leaves me in doubt as to what information source to trust.
What does your support ticket say may I ask? |
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:41:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:I did some digging and we have found a small issue with network replication that can cause some irregularities with droplink selection and the droplinks made available.
Thanks for the prod.
Fixing...
:)
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:52:00 -
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Stile451 wrote:skippy678 wrote:Stile451 wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. This is not the information I received through a support ticket. This leaves me in doubt as to what information source to trust. What does your support ticket say may I ask? Quote:Hi,
The Drop Uplinks work as follows: - If you are in a Squad, everyone in your Squad will be able to spawn using your Drop Uplink. - If you are not in a Squad, everyone in your team will be able to spawn using your Drop Uplink. - If you have the Hacked Drop Uplink, everyone can spawn using it even if you are in a Squad.
Different quality of Drop Uplinks have different respawn delays, copies carried or spawn counts. We checked your last few battles and in most of them you were in a squad alone. If you use the Drop Uplink in that situation, only you will able to use it, as you are the only Squad member. Our suggestion is to check before entering in battle if you are part of a squad or not. If you want to support your whole team with your Drop Uplink, you should leave the Squad before entering in battle.
Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. There's also the question of why have hacked drop uplinks if all uplinks are the same?
When it says in the description of the hacked uplink usable by everyone...it means militia...thats why people were getting confused.
Maybe wolfman will get back and let us know which is right
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Posted - 2013.09.09 15:54:00 -
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superjoe360x wrote:skippy678 wrote:superjoe360x wrote:Everyone can see and use your uplinks. That's how its always been and it has not changed. In PC you can also use the other squads uplinks. I don't know where that guy from seraphim gets his info. There is a bug or something wrong that is causing me to not be able to spawn in on uplinks sometimes. Or you wont be able to see them. This is happening even more since this patch. Everyone seems to have their own differing problem with the uplinks but when working properly anybody on your team not squad can see the uplink and the same for PC. The rules are not different. not true ive tested this 25 dfferent ways today Then you have problems. Officially
I guess this is the problem ehh joe :) I knew i was right about it...Maybe over there at your corp they need the type of LOGI like me that notices when the points are being skimmed...:) but we wouldnt want to take any time away from shotting at the MCC with your toxin SMG ;) |
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:25:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:We should be hotfixing the problems we found tomorrow if all goes well.
They were improved a bit yesterday .. but still some missing here and there ,,,thanks
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:19:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Baal Roo wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Personally, as the usual link specialist for my squad, I think a personal limit of 3 is crazy talk. It is way too low and would kill an entire style of play - yes, mine, but beyond my selfish motivation it would more or less nerf the entire logi class pretty hard, we've taken a lot of hits recently as it is. Squad limits make some sense, and I used to be a fan of the team limit solution but your point about it being too random is well taken. The more I think about it, the more I actually like the personal cap better.
My proposals:
1) A cap on total links per squad or team is less desirable, but it should be liberal. I've seen people make suggestions like single-digit team limits, which just like a per-person limit of 3 is way too low. At minimum it should be 16, one per team member overall. Obviously a squad limit would be lower if you went that way, but then what do you do with non-squadded players?
2) A personal cap is probably a more controllable solution, but like everything else it should be skill-based, not just a blanket limit. You could do it one of two ways:
- Make it it's own skill, like the weapon proficiency skills, but you should unlock it at level 3, not 5 like weapons. If you did it that way then you should reduce the SP cost of the links themselves to offset the new requirement. Lets set it at everyone can drop 1 uplink to start. You get to ADV links and that opens up the proficiency skill. You go up to 2 links at level 1, and one more link for each level, with a bonus at ADV and PRO levels. So, uplink proficiency level 2 gets you 3 links, level 3 gets an additional 1+1 for 5 total, and so on until you get to level 5, you can drop 8 links at a time. Even as an admitted drop uplink WP *****(another word for prostitute), I see no legit reason to need to drop more than that at once.
- Base it on the existing skill, using more or less the same numbers. This is a simpler solution but would probably not reduce the spam all that much.
You could obviously also use both type of caps (personal and team/squad) but if you did both the exact numbers I'm using would probably need to be tweaked, primarily in that the team cap should definitely be higher than 16 if you also imposed personal caps. Also, while on the subject, can anyone confirm that there is in fact NO upper limit on the number of links that can be deployed at once? I understand that you currently find yourself getting a lot of warpoints from uplinks, and it's hard to hear others push for a change that hurts you personally. However, the reality is that not capping the total uplinks on the field in some way to somwhere in the range of 2 or 3 for each objective substantially effects gameplay in a negative way. With a cap of say, 16 total per team, , we're still talking about 6 uplinks per objective on 5 point maps and 8 per objective on 4 point map. If you don't think that is enough uplinks, I don't even know what else to say. If you ask me, that's still way too many. With that many uplinks on the field, every game mode is turned into a game of TDM. I'm having a little trouble with the maths here. How does a limit of 16 uplinks per team equal 6 per objective? Are you talking about both teams combined? Anyway, like I said, the team cap isn't likely to reduce the spam much. The personal cap, like I outlined, would probably work better. I'm going to start a feedback thread specifically on this plan in the near future I think.
I would say different people play different rolls and capping an individual s uplinks would be like saying only 4 AR's per match, or only 4 tanks a round ( I have been spammed by everything in this game...tanks...dopships,grenades... should we limit these items too because sometimes there is too many?....never gonna happen...
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