DUST Search - Dev HELP Please......Whats going on with uplinks?!?!?!?!?! Facts only please

CCP Wolfman wrote:

skippy678 wrote:

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1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players?

2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team?

3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us?

4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused?

5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad?

6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too....

Skippy678

* Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions.
* Not atm.
* No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while.
* I don't think they would be related.
* You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there.
* Because right now it can only do team spawn.

We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.


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KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 716	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:28:00 - [1] - Quote Gabriella Grey wrote: lol...Uplinks are made and used for teams The only uplinks that can be used by squads only are militia uplinks. Some uplinks can only have 2 at a time online at the same time. Some can only have 1, and some you can drop up to 3 active at the same time. I don't know what you have been reading but someone is giving you some mixed information. If you use uplinks that allow only one to be used at a time or two, it will remove the first one you tossed out, so you will be destroying your own uplinks. Hope my information helped you to better understand uplinks. This is coming from a person who has uplinks all the way to lvl 5 Funny that you underlined the wrong parts of your own post. That is not correct. Militia, normal, hacked, advanced and proto links work the same. The same being: Pub games: Links are free for all. PC matches: Links are squad only.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 716	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:43:00 - [2] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I know for a fact that if you drop uplinks while in a squad, only your squad can use them. If you drop uplinks not in a squad, then ANYONE can use them. If you've ever been in a squad by yourself and you see an uplink to spawn on, it's someone else's uplink on your team obviously (unless the uplink you're looking at is yours). Not true. The "no-squad squad" is in effect a squad, so anything dropped in there is accessible to all those in the same "no-squad squad". Please remember that in pub games there's no limitations on who can spawn on a link, only in PC games where restrictions apply.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 719	Posted - 2013.09.09 02:37:00 - [3] - Quote skippy678 wrote: skippy678 wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: I know for a fact that if you drop uplinks while in a squad, only your squad can use them. If you drop uplinks not in a squad, then ANYONE can use them. If you've ever been in a squad by yourself and you see an uplink to spawn on, it's someone else's uplink on your team obviously (unless the uplink you're looking at is yours). Not true. The "no-squad squad" is in effect a squad, so anything dropped in there is accessible to all those in the same "no-squad squad". Please remember that in pub games there's no limitations on who can spawn on a link, only in PC games where restrictions apply. Thats false...sorry buddy..go in a pubmatch with a squad....lay an uplink....switch to a diffent squad ...no uplinks...even for you..you cant even use your own uplinks when you swich squad in PUB switch back to the squad and...you can have the uplinks back You're describing the PC functionality. Pubs are different - unless something changed at 1.5. Which no one would know because everyone and their mother are afk grinding their event double SP...
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 719	Posted - 2013.09.09 04:49:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: skippy678 wrote: . . 1. Who can use the uplinks that are deployed by me? team/ squad/ other squad or solo players? 2. Are there variations that do differt members of the team? 3. HaS CCP switched how the uplinks work recently...if so...when...and why didnt you tell us? 4. Is this problem with uplinks simply related to the inability to get my whole squad together in a battle together and "scotty is confused? 5. I have been testing this out and squad jumping to see what is lit and trying to figure this one out. If i jump out of my squad and lay uplinks do i continue getting the 25 points for the uplinks outside of squad? 6. Why is it called team spawn if its for your squad ? honestly this also works badley because simply getting the "team" chat to load to switch back to your squad takes almost 20 seconds sometimes which makes that idea bunk too.... Skippy678 * Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. * Not atm. * No, we've not made any changes to them in quite a while. * I don't think they would be related. * You should do because it isn't tied to the squad just to your team spawning there. * Because right now it can only do team spawn. We've been considering adding squad only versions or making droplinks exclusive to squads for a while now. Would like to hear your thoughts on that. CCP Wolfman, really appreciate that you took pains to check things out and reply. Unfortunately, the info you got and posted isn't entirely accurate: Quote: * Droplinks can be used by the whole team. No exceptions. That is very true in public games. There's no exceptions in there. However, what is your stance on PC games being different? Since the beginning of Chromosome, the corp battles/PC matches have had all the links squad only (exception: Hacked link probably was a team link, half way into chromosome). Because reality in dust is, at least until last tuesday, that PC battle uplinks are squad only. This was throroughly tested by multi-link suit dropping links while visiting each squad, and upon later entering any of those squads, only the links set while in that very squad were visible. EDIT: No offense, but often 'intended' behavior is something else than reality
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 720	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:23:00 - [5] - Quote skippy678 wrote: When it says in the description of the hacked uplink usable by everyone...it means militia...thats why people were getting confused. Maybe wolfman will get back and let us know which is right Hacked links are not militia. Hacked used to have special functionality, tested last in late Chromosome. Since uprising, no longer.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 720	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:25:00 - [6] - Quote Skihids wrote: I once laid six uplinks and changed suits only to find that every one of them disappeared from my radar. They came back later after I respawned. I suspect it was part of the buggy behavior. that's a different issue, you just don't always see your own links on minimap.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 720	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:41:00 - [7] - Quote Even though I'm a foremost speaker for uplink tactics and gameplay, I too agree that the link spam is terrible. Bad things: - Total number virtually unlimited - Skill level not affecting number except ease of deploying more through SP (pro level) - Using different link types go around the limitations, forcing ppl to create separate fits for each link type to enable more links on field If we are gonna discuss about having a better system, here's some Possible improvements: A) Make the skill level to set the hard limit on active links, per person. The max number being 3, no more. Otherwise there would still be too many. I don't like this possibility too much, though. Won't give too much specization option for linker logis - though it adds pressure on assault/scout valuable eq slots which is interesting. But then again it might force people into logis. B) Team max limit on active links. This is the worst option as it brings such a random element in - too random. Your team has already max number out? Can't set new ones? You're screwed. Oldest disappeares (like now)? Which one disappeares? How do you now if you're maxed? Multiple dudes in large team setting links same time - chaos. C) Squad limit. This shares some downsides with team limit, but possibly within acceptable amount. Acceptable because squads usually know each other and might be doing the same thing. There's a nice balance, you can get one: More links on field per team by creating more squads, but then again less people can use those specific ones and vice versa.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 724	Posted - 2013.09.10 19:46:00 - [8] - Quote BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote: i saw a dev post from i think ccp logibro saying only hacked uplinks can be used by your whole team Source? If it is what I remember it's way old, something like from change of 2012-2013.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 729	Posted - 2013.09.12 23:19:00 - [9] - Quote Thanks CCP for fixing (I assume the fix worked, I haven't tested) Gotta say, it's kinda funny and sad at the same time how that uplink thing was easily fixable unintended behaviour, but it was there for over six months...