The other fail is perfectly balanced, which results in boring game play and begins to boil down who can execute the strategy the fastest, hence the massive emphasis of 300 apm+ which is something pro players consistently proven bad in any game by going to for the same build, the same approach, the same tactic and begins to boil down to who can shoot first.

We're getting way off topic here...

Yes we are....

Back to topic. Increased strafing and "bunnyhopping" (there truly is no bunnyhopping in the true sense of the term in Dust) are what made this game good before Dust began its continuous decline into ineptitude.

You realise it still works dont you? A hop here and there works, what you can't do is wobble around a spot 3m in diameter, strafing still works but you cant just flit back and forth in a 3m area!!

Its better than it was and its time for you to adapt semperfi, infact you could say its time to, adapt or die!!

Try chop strafing aga-

Redberry (Aim-Assisted Militia Assault Rifle) Cosgar

Tries chops strafing, dies!!
Tries strafing to cover, survives, pops out, kills redberry, repeats!!

How many maps in this game have enough cover for that? You're going to get caught out in the open at some point.

So true. *Straffing to cover* ............ crickets chirp .................... Oh there it is I only have 20 meters more to go now.

Watch the videos.

How many maps in this game have enough cover for that? You're going to get caught out in the open at some point.

How many maps in this game have enough cover for that? You're going to get caught out in the open at some point.

The old gen maps sometimes have a bit too much open ground, I still managed though, the new gen maps are awsome for it.

Of course you will get caught out in the open but now you have to think,
where is the neareast cover
what do I do if someone is behind that ledge
where is my squad,
what happens if theres an ambush,
are they waiting

or is it all a bit too much for a "hardcore" gamer?

Bunny Hopping= paint ball tactics same with strafing. This is a space war game so CCP fixed the aiming and made as it should be. No more paintball tactics. Your either behind cover or dead.

If you want to try to justify that bunny hopping is a futuristic viable tactic I will have you say you're absolutely wrong.

Behold the IRL Aimbot

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/product-hero-660x371.jpg

Comes with GPS, ballistics programming, windage, range finder, and aim correction.

I don't see any technological advantages for weaving through a hail of bullets or helping out bunny hopping.

As I said in another thread, nothing in the history of military warfare was ever designed to get shot at outside of two things, Decoys, and Practice Targets.

Ouch that is pretty serious. I know those cables are huge but man the amount of power they must have if 1 cable caused that much dmg. Crazy....

Having to pay for your suits is hardcore enough, but when I'm using an expensive logi suit to support my squad, but can get gunned down at a moment's notice due to an aim-assisted, bullet bending, fully auto sniper rifle, there's no point.

Paying for suits is hardcore enough? So the fact you have to use the money you earn in games is a hardcore factor, really its not like they give you free suits or anything!!

No its not enough, some people have far too much money, just because you find it a little to difficult and you can't own like you used to, adapt or die mate, just like so many noobs have to, so many people already have in this patch alone, its time you did the same!!

Off topic again, but something is extremely wrong if you're agreeing with me.

If you're so hardcore, then go play scout and really put your balls on the line and see how broken this new patch is. I think I'm going to go play CoD to brush up on my twitch skills.

I'm sorry, but this statement is so false I don't even know what to say. Are you really saying nothing has been designed to absorb damage?! Really?? So armoring vehicles and planes was just to add pointless weight? Come on now... I know you are smarter then this.

Armor is designed to stop a weapon. Then someone designs a weapon to defeat that armor, just in case the enemy adopts it. Pretty soon, it's sold to someone, then traded to someone else, then its copied, and everyone has it! It's a never ending cycle in the arms race.



Simple physics semperfi. Those cables absorb massive amounts of energy. You should see the size of the engines those are attached to. One of my close friends on the Abe Lincoln was an ABE and in charge of operating one of the arresting cables.

Rule #1 for the flight deck, Keep you head on a swivel!

Well I agree when you say things that are true. I would be a moron to not agree with your assessment regarding the amount of cover available in Dust........this is also why I think people are ret@rded when they attempt to state Dust is a tactical shooter. Since when does a tactical shooter have no cover at all from which "tactics" can be devised from?

Really the real life argument again? In a video game? ROFL this just cracks me up. In RL we also cant be shot multiple times and survive so I suggest that CCP make is so that 1-2 shots kill. Then this would have more realism!!

Well I agree when you say things that are true. I would be a moron to not agree with your assessment regarding the amount of cover available in Dust........this is also why I think people are ret@rded when they attempt to state Dust is a tactical shooter. Since when does a tactical shooter have no cover at all from which "tactics" can be devised from?

There's tactical gameplay, but like everything else, it's kind of a mixture. The devs are trying to appeal to everybody and all they're doing is pissing us all because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. It really feels like the hit detection guy, the aim assist guy, and the strafing guy made their changes without comparing notes and now we have.... this.

Cover is what you make of it there are areas in this game that some concider open but in fact there are hills to take cover behind, cover is not always a chest high create anything you can put between you and the hostiles bullets is cover of course are are times when one will get caught in open thats why one should avoid open areas as if its the plague and if you find you self in such a situation it is best to make your self a hard target to hit and if there is cover in run for your life range run if not open fire to try and suppress the enemy into cover so he cant shoot back if you can supress a enemy your squad can advance over open terrain its risky but doable.

See your confusing tactical shooter with using tactics.....

Even twitch shooters use tactics...they are just different. Look up tactical shooters........this is not a tactical shooter. This is a shooter that can use tactics like any other PvP game but just because you can use tactics that doesnt mean its a tactical shooter.

What rock have you been living under? People can quite often be shot many times depending on the caliber and where it hits. What kills anyways isn't the actual bullet unless it hits something vital which is quite rare in all actuality. What actually kills them is from cavitation and fragmentation of the bullet when it goes into the body. A bullet punching straight through really doesn't do anything. Also higher velocity is more deadly then low velocity.