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semperfi1999
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:59:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:59:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Cosgar wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Cosgar wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:
So true. *Straffing to cover* ............ crickets chirp .................... Oh there it is I only have 20 meters more to go now.
Off topic again, but something is extremely wrong if you're agreeing with me.  Well I agree when you say things that are true. I would be a moron to not agree with your assessment regarding the amount of cover available in Dust........this is also why I think people are ret@rded when they attempt to state Dust is a tactical shooter. Since when does a tactical shooter have no cover at all from which "tactics" can be devised from? There's tactical gameplay, but like everything else, it's kind of a mixture. The devs are trying to appeal to everybody and all they're doing is pissing us all because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. It really feels like the hit detection guy, the aim assist guy, and the strafing guy made their changes without comparing notes and now we have.... this. See your confusing tactical shooter with using tactics..... Even twitch shooters use tactics...they are just different. Look up tactical shooters........this is not a tactical shooter. This is a shooter that can use tactics like any other PvP game but just because you can use tactics that doesnt mean its a tactical shooter.
The tactics have changed, these are for the better, its time people stopped relying on the texan 2 step!! |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:02:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Cosgar wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:[quote=Cosgar]How many maps in this game have enough cover for that? You're going to get caught out in the open at some point. Well I agree when you say things that are true. I would be a moron to not agree with your assessment regarding the amount of cover available in Dust........this is also why I think people are ret@rded when they attempt to state Dust is a tactical shooter. Since when does a tactical shooter have no cover at all from which "tactics" can be devised from? Cover is what you make of it there are areas in this game that some concider open but in fact there are hills to take cover behind, cover is not always a chest high create anything you can put between you and the hostiles bullets is cover of course are are times when one will get caught in open thats why one should avoid open areas as if its the plague and if you find you self in such a situation it is best to make your self a hard target to hit and if there is cover in run for your life range run if not open fire to try and suppress the enemy into cover so he cant shoot back if you can supress a enemy your squad can advance over open terrain its risky but doable. Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
Good forgot about that i play as a rifleman, those methods would work also if armor is available that would definatly be a good option or use the tank to suppress attackers while the infantry move up. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:03:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry.
I have, yesterday!! Besides thats realy what they should be doing anyway, tanks need infantry just as much as infantry need tanks!! |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:05:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry. I have, yesterday!! Besides thats realy what they should be doing anyway, tanks need infantry just as much as infantry need tanks!!
Yeah they still stop that immediately if there is even 1 person on the opposite team with proto swarms.....they pretty much insta pop tanks. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
211
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:06:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry.
There is current issue with HAV is they are too much gank to little tank, but i fear that may be due to the current Tier advantage of AV tiericde would be good for this game, just to get proper balance. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:08:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry. I have, yesterday!! Besides thats realy what they should be doing anyway, tanks need infantry just as much as infantry need tanks!! Yeah they still stop that immediately if there is even 1 person on the opposite team with proto swarms.....they pretty much insta pop tanks.
Which is why you have suporting infantry, they take care of the av, you take care of them!! |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:29:00 -
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Man I like to play a competitive shooter for ... wait for it... a competitive shooter experience. If I wanted to experience tactical warfare and realism of combat I would joined the Marine Corps and risked having my legs blown off in some remote place. In this game there is already too much 'tactical' - what it amounts to is who is using more proto gear and tanks.
The way this game is dumbed down is beyond good and evil. You cant aim or strafe - the game forces autoaim and movement feels like running through water. |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:29:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Or you know you could get a lav and drive across!! Or take a tank, or get a tank friemd to drive at running pace, you could use him as cover since you cant get shot from behind a tank!!
There is no tank user that would willingly use their 1.5-2 mill isk tank as a rolling point of cover for the infantry. I have, yesterday!! Besides thats realy what they should be doing anyway, tanks need infantry just as much as infantry need tanks!! Yeah they still stop that immediately if there is even 1 person on the opposite team with proto swarms.....they pretty much insta pop tanks. Which is why you have suporting infantry, they take care of the av, you take care of them!!
Not really.........
Just the other day was playign with a friend who runs high lvl swarms and we attacked a AUR based tank (decently built out as far as tanks go) that was literally surrounded by infantry. We the infantry despite us being outnumbered 3-1 in infantry we completely owned the tank in less than 2 seconds. Only 1 swarm involved and I hit him with a couple adv packed nades. The Tank was roflpwned.....unfortunately I was unable to escape myself but the guy i was playing with was able to get out of there. So yea its not hard to insta gibb a tank even if it has 9 infantry defending it from AV. |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:30:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Man I like to play a competitive shooter for ... wait for it... a competitive shooter experience. If I wanted to experience tactical warfare and realism of combat I would joined the Marine Corps and risked having my legs blown off in some remote place. In this game there is already too much 'tactical' - what it amounts to is who is using more proto gear and tanks.
The way this game is dumbed down is beyond good and evil. You cant aim or strafe - the game forces autoaim and movement feels like running through water.
CCPs reply....
Well the atmosphere is different for our planets and its actually thicker than water so that sounds about right.......... |
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LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster
215
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:32:00 -
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Because it looks stupid as hell. |
Stan Dan
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:35:00 -
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With the new noob-centric aim assist if your get caught in the open you have to resort to the bunny hop. Even then it is hard to throw the games aim off. If you are in cover its game over for the AA fools though because AA pulls aim to center of mass. Their rounds ping off your cover while you put your non-AA rounds to their skull. |
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