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TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:14:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:TXSnowman wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. I'm just glad your shotgun still takes so much skill. And it's not like the militia variant is effective at all. Mad that I smash your corp into oblivion? Lol Thanks for the districts.
A nerve. Did I touch it? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:14:00 -
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gbghg wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. Relevant? Are you still going on about that? Dude, please stop, it's getting pathetic, is your ego so small that you must cling to the fact that pretty much everyone else (corp and alliance wise) just went "meh, **** PC" and that you grabbed the undefended districts? It's getting pathetic, your just insulting yourself now.
We smashed ya when ya did show |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:15:00 -
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Wait are we not relevant because we don't scam small corps by attacking their districts after you sell to them or because we don't share the same idiotic opinion as you? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:16:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait are we not relevant because we don't scam small corps by attacking their districts after you sell to them or because we don't share the same idiotic opinion as you?
No because your guys send Cubs msgs crying everytime we attacked |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
565
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:16:00 -
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Oh my god. Stop crying kid.
Go eat your cereal. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
91
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:17:00 -
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Jastad wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote: So cause he stole some kills or managed to find them before me that means it's better? Lol Need Crutch much? The point is I was told earlier that if I used the MD I would see it requires true skill and more aim than the AR. That is a lie. This gun is far easier to use. Sorry but from my point of view, only chart are objective. (note, from a heavy point of view i will gain the best if the mass driver is nerfed, sain that just to clear the field from every misunderstanding) Full squad of TEAMPLAYERS vs FULL squad of SYN-COSP you go 13-1 and i think you could do the same with the Duvolle and dont find your score as a prove of OP. Prove the point that your AR-partner has more kill. FULL TEAMPLAYER SQUAD VS a full squad of blueberries you go 32-2 and againg, i suppose you can do exactly the same with the duvolle, simply because your teamwork is really good.
Sorry Xero, quoting myself for hear your answer so you can make me see where my logic is failing. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:17:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait are we not relevant because we don't scam small corps by attacking their districts after you sell to them or because we don't share the same idiotic opinion as you? No because your guys send Cubs msgs crying everytime we attacked
So you have mommy issues. Tell me more. |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
252
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:17:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. Why can't people just be good with a weapon on their own? A variety of weapons?
I only have 4.5 million SP. I use every weapon except for these:
- Shotgun - HMG - Flaylock - Nova Knife - Plasma Cannon
That's because they took a good amount of SP to skill into, which I've allocated to other areas. Mainly vehicles.
I get good, consistent results with each weapon, except for the Laser Rifle (because I'm not used to the tactics) and the FG. Each one requires a different set of tactics.
Sometimes, you come across a group of blueberries (or you play with them all the time like me) and they get their asses handed to them. That's when tactics don't come into play, and you can decimate with basically any weapon.
It's not that hard to discern between what is OP and what isn't. The MD was fixed in 1.2 (and I DID use it before 1.2). The Flaylock deserved a nerf. The MD is good in specific situations, but is ****** in others. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2988
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:18:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:gbghg wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. Relevant? Are you still going on about that? Dude, please stop, it's getting pathetic, is your ego so small that you must cling to the fact that pretty much everyone else (corp and alliance wise) just went "meh, **** PC" and that you grabbed the undefended districts? It's getting pathetic, your just insulting yourself now. We smashed ya when ya did show If I remember right the only times we fought with you was when our corp was going through a PC burnout and we never had enough people on to do the battles and the ones that were on didn't give a ****. Fighting a undermanned team that doesn't really care about the match turnout can't really be considered a "fair game" or a "great victory" can it? |
DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
3
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:19:00 -
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Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4006
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:20:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks (Camps a nanohive and lobs Lai Dais in your general direction) |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
366
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:21:00 -
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2 dudes ego battling over a clan match in some backwater fail fps that no one cares about lol sad. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
186
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:23:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I clearly stirred up the noob's nest I don't understand you. You're so hostile and insulting in almost every post you make. I have to ask, are you like 14 or 15 years old by chance? It would make sense. It seems like every post I read from you, you go out of your way to make enemies with everyone.
How do you expect people to take you seriously if all you do is act like a giant douche bag all the time? |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
153
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:23:00 -
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Glad to see this balance discussion has stayed relevant, civil and on topic! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2988
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:25:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I clearly stirred up the noob's nest I don't understand you. You're so hostile and insulting in almost every post you make. I have to ask, are you like 14 or 15 years old by chance? It would make sense. It seems like every post I read from you, you go out of your way to make enemies with everyone. How do you expect people to take you seriously if all you do is act like a giant douche bag all the time? Shhh!!! This is the Internet, he's a wannabe troll. He feeds on... Well something. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
158
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:26:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol you irrelevant guys will come up with anythin. g to protect your crutch I see. Lol Ha no. You just want to nerf because you don't like being taken out your comfort zone. But my new "crutch" is the nova knife I'm still getting better at it. Can't wait to see the tears like yours |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
146
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:27:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Congrats, you've proven that you can pubstomp with a full squad of Teamplayers vs. random scrubs. I bet you could've gotten those scores with the Plasma Cannon or Laser too with that kind of match-up.
Please try in your next PC and lets see how it goes. I used to be able to do that with the PC :( |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:30:00 -
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Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK |
DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
3
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:30:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks (Camps a nanohive and lobs Lai Dais in your general direction) Thats a little mean....... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4008
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:32:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol you irrelevant guys will come up with anythin. g to protect your crutch I see. Lol Ha no. You just want to nerf because you don't like being taken out your comfort zone. But my new "crutch" is the nova knife I'm still getting better at it. Can't wait to see the tears like yours People are already complaining about nova knives. But they're usually silenced by droves of belligerent minjas. |
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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
681
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:33:00 -
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With the AR half the bullets do not register and requires a player to actually track a moving opponent, whereas the MD has close to a 5m blast radius so no aiming is necessary at all. Then you combine the MD with a flux nade and it's extremely easy to kill people even outnumbered 1 vs 3.
The AR these days lack stopping power, with players able to easily strafe away and escape behind a corner (unless you lack SP and do not have a proto suit / complex shield extenders).
I believe the MD should at the most have a 2m blast radius, if not it's splash damage needs to be greatly reduced especially vs armor. At it's current state the weapon is way to easy to use and combined with flux nades it's laughably easy. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4008
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:33:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Cosgar wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks (Camps a nanohive and lobs Lai Dais in your general direction) Thats a little mean....... Just proving a point to how lolbalanced things are. I can solo a tank, but it takes almost an entire squad to blow up a yellow jeep.
1.5 can't come fast enough. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2990
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:35:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?..... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
159
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:35:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. EDIT- I would like to point out that I was run and gun with this weapon. No camping up high and raining grenades down here. Wait I actually looked at the pictures. I take back what I said about you being a skilled player lawl. You went against random and you're not the only one with a "good score" nice try lol. You used proto suit also well I bet and complex damage mods I bet. Ha now gtfo |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2990
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Cosgar wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks (Camps a nanohive and lobs Lai Dais in your general direction) Thats a little mean....... Just proving a point to how lolbalanced things are. I can solo a tank, but it takes almost an entire squad to blow up a yellow jeep. 1.5 can't come fast enough. Dust logic, it's so irrational. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:38:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?.....
Because sadly people are easily baited by idiocy and I was hoping that perhaps maybe they could hold out for just one week. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4008
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:38:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?..... Another forum I frequent has annual raffles for custom avatar titles and other random profile swag to cover server expenses. One popular prize is a temporary ban token that you can use on anyone you want. *hint* *hint* |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1078
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:41:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. EDIT- I would like to point out that I was run and gun with this weapon. No camping up high and raining grenades down here. shut you ***** mouth, no touching my MD in bad places, it already has a low DPS.
btw it requires less skill but is less effective because of that. something to remember. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
68
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:41:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:gbghg wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?..... Another forum I frequent has annual raffles for custom avatar titles and other random profile swag to cover server expenses. One popular prize is a temporary ban token that you can use on anyone you want. *hint* *hint*
Use Aurum to ban idiots? But that would make CCP money. They've already shown us they hate money. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
95
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:43:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:With the AR half the bullets do not register and requires a player to actually track a moving opponent, whereas the MD has close to a 5m blast radius so no aiming is necessary at all. Then you combine the MD with a flux nade and it's extremely easy to kill people even outnumbered 1 vs 3.
The AR these days lack stopping power, with players able to easily strafe away and escape behind a corner (unless you lack SP and do not have a proto suit / complex shield extenders).
I believe the MD should at the most have a 2m blast radius, if not it's splash damage needs to be greatly reduced especially vs armor. At it's current state the weapon is way to easy to use and combined with flux nades it's laughably easy.
OK a real argument.
The mass driver work so well right now because the majority of the player base use the "wolf pack" tactic. Stick close together and shoot the same target.
If you put a little distance from your mate you can kill the MD user. Usully one die,but not all the team.
The thing that need to be looked is the istantgib of the explosive.Let's change this so you can be razzed, like what happen with other weapon.
And i personally think that the real problem is another and it's called DMG MOD: they change the value of a weapon from std to OP.
Personally i hope CCP take them out as soon as possibile.
example: The VIZIAM in cromo was not OP if you didnt have DMG mod and SS+SSpro. But with them stacked it become the OP weapon we all know |
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