And you stomped a bunch of newberries right out of the academy in a pub match with a proto caldari logi crutch suit.

I didn't mention shotguns, you did. Hell, the shotgun probably requires the most skill to use anyway with the bad hit detection.

I actually feel stupid after reading this thread. What on earth could have prompted me to think that anything good was going to come out of this. This is raw, unadulterated, "Close-your-eyes-kids" QQ.

You're complaining about a weapon designed for a degree of inaccuracy. If you want to complain, look at Aeon Amadi's post about how MD have broken splash damage right now (TL:DR, they are ignoring shield resistances and not hurting armor enough) or how the damage is spread out over the distance of the explosion (TL:DR, damage ramps up at about half the blast zone (2m) on a Standard MD). If you want to talk about balance, actually read the posts that Semperfi is making, because they make some sense. A lot of sense actually.

But if you want to continue on your crusade to let the community know that you hate DUST and that you want to take all of the crutches down with you, I have a better experiment: count all the times you hit someone dead on with a grenade and send us your kill boards. Until then, pump your breaks and realize that not every weapon that you don't use has a problem or is propping someone up. For once, stop curb stomping Diversity's face and let it grow.


In short: Stop complaining and read all the info out there. Or don't and just stop playing. Either way everyone wins.

Lol how's your corp coming along? Still got dis......nevermind you guys had a pathetic video where you guys killed each other to look further like a joke lmfao. I did what you bum "A teamers" couldn't do.

I'm glad you took the time to quote my post. Maybe now that you've seen it twice you'll actually read and respond. Kinda the point of your Q-I mean constructive criticism right?

As far as the corp is concerned, Its fine actually. I don't think anyone has any regrets. Everyone is relaxed nowadays.Seems like you're the only one who *still* cares. Months after the fact at that. But... it's funny. All of this coming from someone who "Values loyalty above all else".

Anyways, continue your rant.

Edit: Fixed a typo

Using a prototype suit and then saying a weapon is op is out of the question. The survivbility this suit brings is of course going to land you more kill. As a matter of fact I suspect you would have gotten the same amount of kills with an assault rifle. I'll go further, The mass driver does have a tendancy of Kill stealling half dead enemies because of the alfa. This and the fact the your team did comparable to you means that A) you where either all protostomping or B) you where up against academy graduates which now only takes 400WP to get out of.

You argument is flawed. Using a prototype suit does not justify a weapon being OP. And you where using Logistics ck.0 which is prototype level. If you get more kills with a mass driver it just shows how bad a shot you possibly are. I cant count the num ber of times a duvolle assault rifles has not been able to kill my strd suit because of crappy marksmanship, and I'm not talking about me killing them either I have my team for that, I mostly logi.

What I don't understand is how does the SUIT have ANYTHING to do with the weapon's effectiveness? Yes I could do this with a AR a DUVOLLE PROTO AR NOT BASIC AR.

Are you stupid? The suit gives you survivability. I think that directly affects how well you do with a weapon.

Man. I didn't realize AR users, I mean shotgun users, had this big a problem with thinking. (Sorry to the rest of you shotgun users, but Zero here claims to be one of you)

Do you even Dust?

I take offense every time I see "you AR users"

I use the AR.. but I also use the FG , sniper , submachine gun , SCR , MD , recently the shotgun , scrambler pistol , grenades , and this awesome weapon called teamwork

Sorry. Really.

There are exceptions to every stereotype, but the typical AR user is just a brainless run and gun type who rambos in to most battles (even if teamed up), and when his OP AR fails to get the kill for him, he comes and bitches on the forums about whatever the other weapon is.

Clearly not everyone who is specced into ARs fits this mold. Hell, I have specced into it some, but I don't use it as my main.

bull ****, it takes me about 4 shots to kill anyone and to do that I have to be up close, where every red around takes aim. my score tends to be about 3 kills 10 kill assists

LMFAO! So now you are gonna tell ME how I played? LMFAO! Epic!

Point and FACT is you can run and gun "mindlessly" like Rambo with a MD. So stop using that it takes strategy to use as some kind of argument against the "crutch AR" users that use this method.

It is possible with the MD.

Apparently that's the only way you play.

ARs are better at it. They're better at pretty much everything.

AR users consider this technique the height of tactics.

Dust is being dumbed down because of this, AR, mentality.

I would pay attention to this idiotic rant trying to nerf the most balanced weapon in the game, but since you have no video proof that you were using the MD (all you have is number at the scoreboard) which could've been easily faked with a tank, I'm going to ignore your rage thread, and next time I see you I will whip out the trusty O'l freedom.

Spoken like a true ..... If you compare the pics they show it was indeed with favorite weapon being basic MassDriver and than when you look at lobby board the stats are IDENTICAL to the T.
Nice corp btw...

Except you were in proto gear supported by a proto squad. This could be done with any weapon, even the Plasma Cannon.

So lets see it.

Actaul, meaninful information has already been collected for you, try to keep up:


https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678

and:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94246

Obviously CCP has better data.