Come MD user! pull out your standard AR an see if you can do better

I use dragonfly scout.. No dmg mods. Unfortunately lvl 4 in ar (unfortunate cause I never use them ie wasted sp) use the gek. Have lvl 1 md. Do much better with the md... Using a militia or standard ar is even worse. Md for the win. Would love to had md maxed ;)

Damn Xero, 140 replies in just a couple hours. You certainly know how to rile up a crowd lol.

Mass driver requires more skill to use than a assault rifle. Just saying, don't troll you might fail.

I'm sorry, but anyone who talks like this about the Mass Driver just has absolutely no clue what they're talking about. No, splash damage should not be a 'Consolation Prize'. Decent splash damage is the only reason anyone uses this weapon at all. If you were not able to kill people with the splash damage, no one would ever use the Mass Driver, period.

The Mass Driver is not like an AR. You do not point-and-click, and get an instant automatic hit if you're on target. The projectiles have a long travel time and fire at an arc. Because of this, there is no way that anyone ever goes around getting 100% direct hits. Yes, I almost always go for splash damage because that is the only thing that is practical. But even then, at any significant distance, or anything other than the optimal situation for the MD, it is difficult to hit with the splash damage.

So please just stop, all you're doing in continually proving how clueless you are about this situation.

....to a lesser degree, yes. But it still is not a hitscan weapon. And it still fires at an arc

I really wish some of you rampant sh!t talkers about the MD would try it, and please let me know how simple it is to run around getting direct hits 100% of the time.

Here's a strange thought: What if... all the weapons we had were as effective as the MD and AR? Would anyone really give a crap over what's OP and who's using what?

It's too late for that. You ARE the problem.

So what's next? Let's say CCP ignores all the statistics they follow and give in to a bunch of kneejerk reactions and something like the plasma canon or laser become widely used? You run your usual "tactics" of meeting everything head on, only to get popped and melted by squads of lasers and plasma cannons? You going to cry about those next?

So what's next? Let's say CCP ignores all the statistics they follow and give in to a bunch of kneejerk reactions and something like the plasma canon or laser become widely used? You run your usual "tactics" of meeting everything head on, only to get popped and melted by squads of lasers and plasma cannons? You going to cry about those next?

This scenario is part of what is causing Dust to be less successful than it could be.

Instead of forcing players to learn tactics, CCP keeps pandering to the lowest common denominators (AR users) that just run and gun like idiots, and we have a less tactical, more dumbed down game because of it.

You have it backwards. YOU guys who use the nice little weird guns that give OHKs and all that "versatility" you guys like to have are the ones killing the game. The AR requires skill. All I ever see is you crying how easy the AR is to use but you don't use it. Yet you use all the crutch weapons and act like it takes talent that not everybody has you are clearly a joke.

The idea that the MD gives OHKs is stupid. Splash damage - the most complained about feature from the AR idiots - will net about 160 to 180 pts damage max.

The AR is, far and away, the best weapon in the game. It's already dominating, and it needs fixed, whereas people who kill with the MD would kill you 3 times as fast with the AR.

The MD is harder to use than the AR.

I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything.



Proof it was Basic



First game using Grenade Launcher



Proof 32 kills BASIC MD



I win button 32-3


I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP.

Thank you.


EDIT- I would like to point out that I was run and gun with this weapon. No camping up high and raining grenades down here.

The laser is already in works for being the new FoTM. CCP does not know how to balance a game. Instead of NERFING everything to create total balance they keep buffing something creating what is called a CASH TRAP. Forces users to buy more boosters so they can spec into the new FoTM.

Forces people to buy new AUR gear so they can start using the Viziam earlier than normal. It's a vicious cash trap. I will keep fighting the good fight. In reality I am more than capable of still killing people who depend on crutches. I just want them to have to play the game fair like everybody else and get kills with skill and not crutch.

Who the hell decides what's a crutch and what's not? You swear by a hitscan full auto weapon that only has one other useful varint. I'd rather see everything be effective instead of us all being limited to one thing. You don't give two ****s about balance, let's call a spade a spade here. People like you with your condescending attitude towards your own community, holding up virtual prestige in a video game are going to be the death of this game. But at least it looks like CCP isn't giving in since the MD didn't make the feedback page for the second week in a row since this QQ started. Lets hope they follow this trend and get something more on the kill feed than GEKs and Duvolles.

Devolopers nerf game mechanics so the game is fair and fun for everyone.

Players want game mechanics nerfed so the game is fair and fun for everyone.

Selfish players want game mechanics nerfed so the game is only fair and fun for them.

Which one are you?

Ar users make Lmfao,you have easymode stop crying about weapons that take skill to killed.You should all biomass you character if you can't win with an Ar. I have 0 respect for Ar users that defend the Ar Crutch. Getting non-weapons nerfed didnt make you better then and wont now.You guys are get aim assist ,now you get a button to press your easybutton for you

See where all you bums cry that I am a AR user and try to use that against me I actually use a shotgun. You know a gun that actually takes aim and requires you to HIT your targets.

Any gun you can get kills by MISSING is a crutch.

See where all you bums cry that I am a AR user and try to use that against me I actually use a shotgun. You know a gun that actually takes aim and requires you to HIT your targets.

That's not how the MD or any splash weapon works. (Including grenades) If your target is in the splash, it counts as a hit. It's not a hitscan weapon. I hope one day you can broaden your views a bit, this is getting a bit ridiculous...

You are nobody that I need to prove a point about you go 3-12 in PC matches. You are a non factor. Just because you sucked off Imperfects doesn't make you relevant.

You are nobody that I need to prove a point about you go 3-12 in PC matches. You are a non factor. Just because you sucked off Imperfects doesn't make you relevant.

bringing peoples ability to kill into a discusion to back up your argument is fail.

Lol MD does not require more skill than Shotgun so stop trying.