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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
854
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:41:00 -
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I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything.
Proof it was Basic
First game using Grenade Launcher
Proof 32 kills BASIC MD
I win button 32-3
I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP.
Thank you. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:44:00 -
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Unlike a shotgun |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2969
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:45:00 -
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Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
854
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:47:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic.
So show me your games with AR. I think half you guys that say AR is a no skill gun are full of it. You guys get smashed with it. If AR is soooooo OP if it's soooooo beastly in your hands why would you use the MD? Makes no sense, your crutch is garbage and will be fixed soon. You will again become irrelevant. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3989
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:47:00 -
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I see ARs, HMGs, and (used to see) shotguns get this many kills? Double standard much? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
854
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:47:00 -
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TXSnowman wrote:Unlike a shotgun
I use Shotgun |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
309
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:49:00 -
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Out of curiosity, what were your corp mates using? Their scores are comparable...
Were you dominating or just stealing kills with spash damage? A squad of Team Players must provide a lot of kill assists.... |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2972
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:50:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:gbghg wrote:Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic. So show me your games with AR. I think half you guys that say AR is a no skill gun are full of it. You guys get smashed with it. If AR is soooooo OP if it's soooooo beastly in your hands why would you use the MD? Makes no sense, your crutch is garbage and will be fixed soon. You will again become irrelevant. I don't use the MD a whole lot, or the AR. I tend towards SMG's or scrambler pistols myself. And as a vehicle user I am far from the best infantry player in the match, the simple fact is that I can pick up either of those weapons and do decently with them, the difference between them is that I actually have to try and judge the arc and splash radius with the mass driver, while I simply point the weapon and hold down R1 with the other.
Edit: also who ever said that the AR was OP or "soooooo beastly" in my hands, I simply made an objective comparison of my experience with both weapons. And how is it my crutch if I rarely use it, and why on earth should I care about being relevant in a freaking video game? I state my opinion on matters in the game on the forums and in game to other people, I do this because I want to talk about my experiences in game and how I believe the game could be improved, not out of some desire to be relavent. To be honest the only guy who sounds full of it round here is you. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:50:00 -
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RedRebelCork wrote:Out of curiosity, what were your corp mates using? Their scores are comparable...
Were you dominating or just stealing kills with spash damage? A squad of Team Players must provide a lot of kill assists....
Exer was tanking Extacy AR DOC AR Nasgoth AR
Liquid on other team sniper. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:52:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing?
blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought
I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius)
and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:52:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I see ARs, HMGs, and (used to see) shotguns get this many kills? Double standard much?
Yes you are just a all out killer but use the MD cause it's the worst of all and you wanna challenge yourself... get real. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
89
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:53:00 -
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Dont know how a kill/death chart of Player in a FULL SQUAD of the BEST CORP (right now) VS blueberryes could provide some objective data on the matter.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
146
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:53:00 -
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u seem to have forgot to mention ur in a proto logistics suit with a standard MD. imagine the amount of health on tht suit. or the complex modules on it. or damage mods. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
0uter.Heaven EoN.
259
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:53:00 -
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Congrats, you've proven that you can pubstomp with a full squad of Teamplayers vs. random scrubs. I bet you could've gotten those scores with the Plasma Cannon or Laser too with that kind of match-up.
Please try in your next PC and lets see how it goes. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1534
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I see ARs, HMGs, and (used to see) shotguns get this many kills? Double standard much?
Xero wrote:For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE!
That is what he's saying. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1054
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:54:00 -
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To be fair its not really all that amazing. If you are a good player you will wreck with it. If you are up against crappy players you will wreck with it. If the proportions of Armour tankers is higher than shield tankers you will wreck with it. If your squad runs 6 of them you will all wreck with it......
Oh now I see what you mean.... |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:54:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing? blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius) and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed
I believe the radius needs to be nerfed down to 3-4 (after lvl5) and 5-6 with the assault one. I also think it needs reload after every shot. It needs to have the direct taken off since everybody only shoots at the feet and goes for splash anyway where it should be the other way around people should go for direct first. This gun is such a joke though it rewards you well for missing the shot or not even caring for direct dmg. I just focused on splash. This gun truly is a I win button. I won so many 1v4 1v3 with it EASILY. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
151
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:54:00 -
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Yet a other QQ thread. This is the new trend. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
371
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:55:00 -
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So you're saying you can't do that with an AR ? Cause im a religious user of the MD and can do the very same if not better with the AR... Especially with the academy opening the flood gates lately....
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:56:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Dont know how a kill/death chart of Player in a FULL SQUAD of the BEST CORP (right now) VS blueberryes could provide some objective data on the matter.
Blueberries? There was Conspiratus Immortalis and a Synergy in there it wasn't full of NPC nobodies. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:57:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:So you're saying you can't do that with an AR ? Cause im a religious user of the MD and can do the very same if not better with the AR... Especially with the academy opening the flood gates lately....
Than why don't you? If you can use the AR just as good why do you use the MD? Because it's so much easier and I can tell you that. I was told how much harder and challenging it was to use and I have never use a grenade launcher in my life and was able to do this run and gunning with MD. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:57:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:TXSnowman wrote:Unlike a shotgun I use Shotgun
Sarcasm |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
183
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:57:00 -
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Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case applies to ridiculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to have diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to find the balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game where poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
856
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:To be fair its not really all that amazing. If you are a good player you will wreck with it. If you are up against crappy players you will wreck with it. If the proportions of Armour tankers is higher than shield tankers you will wreck with it. If your squad runs 6 of them you will all wreck with it......
Oh now I see what you mean....
I was the only one running it to take pics and test it out to prove you guys MD is OP takes no skill. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:59:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case applies to ridiculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to have diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to find the balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game where poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it.
We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
153
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:59:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing? blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius) and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed I believe the radius needs to be nerfed down to 3-4 (after lvl5) and 5-6 with the assault one. I also think it needs reload after every shot. It needs to have the direct taken off since everybody only shoots at the feet and goes for splash anyway where it should be the other way around people should go for direct first. This gun is such a joke though it rewards you well for missing the shot or not even caring for direct dmg. I just focused on splash. This gun truly is a I win button. I won so many 1v4 1v3 with it EASILY. Reload after every shot lol funny. Question is went 16-4 using nothing besides the level 3 nova knife. I think it's op because I got a good score with a knife. Ha. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
22
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:00:00 -
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I can get all the proof I need that AR would be, by your standards, considered OP. I can also get proof it was militia. And, for the record, I tried it for myself.
...Not that anything about it will change, on account of majority tyranny. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:00:00 -
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I honestly can't see the first md usage pic... Is that your tv or camera? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:01:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing? blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius) and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed I believe the radius needs to be nerfed down to 3-4 (after lvl5) and 5-6 with the assault one. I also think it needs reload after every shot. It needs to have the direct taken off since everybody only shoots at the feet and goes for splash anyway where it should be the other way around people should go for direct first. This gun is such a joke though it rewards you well for missing the shot or not even caring for direct dmg. I just focused on splash. This gun truly is a I win button. I won so many 1v4 1v3 with it EASILY. Reload after every shot lol funny. Question is went 16-4 using nothing besides the level 3 nova knife. I think it's op because I got a good score with a knife. Ha.
The knife is not overpopulated your argument fails.. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
90
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:01:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Jastad wrote:Dont know how a kill/death chart of Player in a FULL SQUAD of the BEST CORP (right now) VS blueberryes could provide some objective data on the matter.
Blueberries? There was Conspiratus Immortalis and a Synergy in there it wasn't full of NPC nobodies.
Yeah and in that match (while wearing CK0 ) you scored a 13-1 and your AR partner scored a 15.
so it's prove my point. You cant go 32-1 vs good guys.
or am i wrong? |
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