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gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2969	Posted - 2013.08.07 23:45:00 - [1] - Quote Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2972	Posted - 2013.08.07 23:50:00 - [2] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: gbghg wrote: Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic. So show me your games with AR. I think half you guys that say AR is a no skill gun are full of it. You guys get smashed with it. If AR is soooooo OP if it's soooooo beastly in your hands why would you use the MD? Makes no sense, your crutch is garbage and will be fixed soon. You will again become irrelevant. I don't use the MD a whole lot, or the AR. I tend towards SMG's or scrambler pistols myself. And as a vehicle user I am far from the best infantry player in the match, the simple fact is that I can pick up either of those weapons and do decently with them, the difference between them is that I actually have to try and judge the arc and splash radius with the mass driver, while I simply point the weapon and hold down R1 with the other. Edit: also who ever said that the AR was OP or "soooooo beastly" in my hands, I simply made an objective comparison of my experience with both weapons. And how is it my crutch if I rarely use it, and why on earth should I care about being relevant in a freaking video game? I state my opinion on matters in the game on the forums and in game to other people, I do this because I want to talk about my experiences in game and how I believe the game could be improved, not out of some desire to be relavent. To be honest the only guy who sounds full of it round here is you.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2974	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:05:00 - [3] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was Basic First game using Grenade Launcher Proof 32 kills BASIC MD I win button 32-3 I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing? blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius) and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed I believe the radius needs to be nerfed down to 3-4 (after lvl5) and 5-6 with the assault one. I also think it needs reload after every shot. It needs to have the direct taken off since everybody only shoots at the feet and goes for splash anyway where it should be the other way around people should go for direct first. This gun is such a joke though it rewards you well for missing the shot or not even caring for direct dmg. I just focused on splash. This gun truly is a I win button. I won so many 1v4 1v3 with it EASILY. Reload after every shot lol funny. Question is went 16-4 using nothing besides the level 3 nova knife. I think it's op because I got a good score with a knife. Ha. The knife is not overpopulated your argument fails.. So because its not being used by a majority of the community ( eg the AR and MD) a weapon can't be considered OP by the very logic your using? He's not the one failing here...
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2974	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 - [4] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Lol you irrelevant guys will come up with anything to protect your crutch I see. Lol I throw that right back at you, after all, your the one going on the offensive in the nerf war.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2985	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:10:00 - [5] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: [quote=Funkmaster Whale]Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case ridculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades. CCP wants to diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it.. /quote] We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all... You mentioned me. I feel special, good job. You used the mass driver and got a good match. But again you cant say you got that score wity the mass driver alone. What suit you used? Did you use mods? All of this account a for your survivability. What did your team look like and what did the reds look like? You're ignoring these factors. What map was it etc. this is was a good attempt. Just because you had a good score doesn't mean it's op. Just mean you're a skilled player in which I congrats you. But I've went 28-4 a few times with tac ar. I went 16 and 4 with a damn nove knife. I even got pictures The pictures showed the basic mass driver was my favorite weapon..... EVEN if I lied and got some kills with something else I would still have to got a majority with the basic mass driver... Not really, it's just based on the fit you use, for all we know you could have just spammed nades at them or melee'd them. It just proves that you were carrying a MD.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2985	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:12:00 - [6] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. The only guy whining here is you, tbh it sounds like you want a return to the tac AR days, when over 90% of the killed feed had "AR" in it.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2985	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 - [7] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. Relevant? Are you still going on about that? Dude, please stop, it's getting pathetic, is your ego so small that you must cling to the fact that pretty much everyone else (corp and alliance wise) just went "meh, **** PC" and that you grabbed the undefended districts? It's getting pathetic, your just insulting yourself now.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2988	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:18:00 - [8] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: gbghg wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. Relevant? Are you still going on about that? Dude, please stop, it's getting pathetic, is your ego so small that you must cling to the fact that pretty much everyone else (corp and alliance wise) just went "meh, ** PC" and that you grabbed the undefended districts? It's getting pathetic, your just insulting yourself now. We smashed ya when ya did show If I remember right the only times we fought with you was when our corp was going through a PC burnout and we never had enough people on to do the battles and the ones that were on didn't give a **. Fighting a undermanned team that doesn't really care about the match turnout can't really be considered a "fair game" or a "great victory" can it?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2988	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:25:00 - [9] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I clearly stirred up the noob's nest I don't understand you. You're so hostile and insulting in almost every post you make. I have to ask, are you like 14 or 15 years old by chance? It would make sense. It seems like every post I read from you, you go out of your way to make enemies with everyone. How do you expect people to take you seriously if all you do is act like a giant douche bag all the time? Shhh!!! This is the Internet, he's a wannabe troll. He feeds on... Well something.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2990	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:35:00 - [10] - Quote Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?.....

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2990	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:36:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: DarthJT5 wrote: Cosgar wrote: DarthJT5 wrote: Aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd ill just keep drivin meh tanks (Camps a nanohive and lobs Lai Dais in your general direction) Thats a little mean....... Just proving a point to how lolbalanced things are. I can solo a tank, but it takes almost an entire squad to blow up a yellow jeep. 1.5 can't come fast enough. Dust logic, it's so irrational.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2991	Posted - 2013.08.08 00:45:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: gbghg wrote: Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Wait I have an idea. I DECLARE THIS WEEK INTERNATIONAL IGNORE XERO AND REGNYUM WEEK Why make it a week? Why not a year? Or an eternity?..... Another forum I frequent has annual raffles for custom avatar titles and other random profile swag to cover server expenses. One popular prize is a temporary ban token that you can use on anyone you want. hint hint That sounds amusing, it could backfire though if sota got his hands on It though...
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2992	Posted - 2013.08.08 01:13:00 - [13] - Quote HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: oh, look, Xero is proposing to nerf another weapon that isn't an AR. HTFU, Xero. You need to accept that the AR cannot be the only viable weapon or Dust will become a wannabe CoD clone and die. The draw of Dust is the variety. MD users rarely get more kills than ARs of the same level. Luckily, CCP balances based on data and not whiners like you. I've seen you do very well with your Caldari AR fit (FOTM since forever), but when someone with a non-AR does the same, you lose your ****. This video is for you: Battlefield Friends: USAA-12+Frags Some players have stuck with the AR since the game came out in closed beta, dont start that FOTM crap pony boy. Get back in ur closet with your barbie horses I believe the FOTM bit related to his use of caldari suits, given his general bitchiness we can safely assume that he was part of the caldari logi/tac AR Zerg.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2995	Posted - 2013.08.08 02:04:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: gbghg wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: gbghg wrote: Your right, the MD doesn't require a huge amount of skill, however it still require bucket loads more than the AR which is point and shoot at its most basic. So show me your games with AR. I think half you guys that say AR is a no skill gun are full of it. You guys get smashed with it. If AR is soooooo OP if it's soooooo beastly in your hands why would you use the MD? Makes no sense, your crutch is garbage and will be fixed soon. You will again become irrelevant. I don't use the MD a whole lot, or the AR. I tend towards SMG's or scrambler pistols myself. And as a vehicle user I am far from the best infantry player in the match, the simple fact is that I can pick up either of those weapons and do decently with them, the difference between them is that I actually have to try and judge the arc and splash radius with the mass driver, while I simply point the weapon and hold down R1 with the other. Edit: also who ever said that the AR was OP or "soooooo beastly" in my hands, I simply made an objective comparison of my experience with both weapons. And how is it my crutch if I rarely use it, and why on earth should I care about being relevant in a freaking video game? I state my opinion on matters in the game on the forums and in game to other people, I do this because I want to talk about my experiences in game and how I believe the game could be improved, not out of some desire to be relavent. To be honest the only guy who sounds full of it round here is you. You don't have to judge the arc, just aim the bottom tick at them. The round ALWAYS hits on the bottom tick. Any ND user worth a lick knows this. There is NO judging when it comes to arcing just aim ahead of them. With the M.D. You literally shoot AROUND them, not even direct hits. At least with the AR you have to actually hit the guy dead on. That said the M.D. is not OP. Though if you actually think it takes more skill to use, then you don't know how to use it. Depends on the range, at a certain distance you can't rely on the reticule and have to judge it manually, I'm talking mid to long range here, there's also relative heights to take into account as well, those do take some judging, unlike the AR which is point at target, hold trigger, profit, in every single situation, regardless of position, height, or tactical situation.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2998	Posted - 2013.08.08 02:20:00 - [15] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: That said the M.D. is not OP. Though if you actually think it takes more skill to use, then you don't know how to use it. Depends on the range, at a certain distance you can't rely on the reticule and have to judge it manually, I'm talking mid to long range here, there's also relative heights to take into account as well, those do take some judging, unlike the AR which is point at target, hold trigger, profit, in every single situation, regardless of position, height, or tactical situation. Couldn't have said it any better [/quote] With a 5m blast radius....[/quote] The bigger the splash the more likely you are to kill yourself in close quarters, it does have a rather sizeable downside.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2998	Posted - 2013.08.08 02:22:00 - [16] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Don't get too used to your crutch ladies. It's gonna get nerfed. Me being able to dominate with a basic version of this gun is proof. I didn't even take pics of the game I fought a full squad of Nyain San using it I still went 8-2 against their proto ARs. It's a idiot's weapon. The Assault Rifle takes NO SKILL at all to use. It's a crutch. Fixed that for you.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2998	Posted - 2013.08.08 02:23:00 - [17] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: All you've proven is TeamPlayers is full of a bunch of whiny circlejerking nolifers. Try using that MD in a PC match and see what happens. Explosive weapons in a PC battle leads to FF incidents, I had one or two providing CAS with a missile python.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2999	Posted - 2013.08.08 02:33:00 - [18] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: gbghg wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Don't get too used to your crutch ladies. It's gonna get nerfed. Me being able to dominate with a basic version of this gun is proof. I didn't even take pics of the game I fought a full squad of Nyain San using it I still went 8-2 against their proto ARs. It's a idiot's weapon. The Assault Rifle takes NO SKILL at all to use. It's a crutch. Fixed that for you. Lol when you win some battles than you can talk. We've won plenty, why do you keep trying to bring corps and PC into it? Maybe it's because you realise how terrible your argument is and your seeking to sustain your little troll thread here by derailing it. I stand by what I said early, it's pathetic and it demeans yourself and your corp. you're actually worsening people's perception of yourself and your corp, but then again I doubt you actually care, you're a wannabe troll after all.