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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:02:00 -
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TXSnowman wrote:I honestly can't see the first md usage pic... Is that your tv or camera?
If you can't see it get glasses. I know it's not clear as day but you can tell it is just a regular mass driver in both those pics. Don't even think of pulling the thought that I could be using better than Basic out your butt. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:03:00 -
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Jastad wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Jastad wrote:Dont know how a kill/death chart of Player in a FULL SQUAD of the BEST CORP (right now) VS blueberryes could provide some objective data on the matter.
Blueberries? There was Conspiratus Immortalis and a Synergy in there it wasn't full of NPC nobodies. Yeah and in that match (while wearing CK0 ) you scored a 13-1 and your AR partner scored a 15. so it's prove my point. You cant go 32-1 vs good guys. or am i wrong?
So cause he stole some kills or managed to find them before me that means it's better? Lol Need Crutch much? The point is I was told earlier that if I used the MD I would see it requires true skill and more aim than the AR. That is a lie. This gun is far easier to use. |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
248
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:04:00 -
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I nominate OP for "Dumbass of the week!" Pubstomping and squads are effective variables in match output. You don't realize this?
Cheers. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:04:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:TXSnowman wrote:I honestly can't see the first md usage pic... Is that your tv or camera? If you can't see it get glasses. I know it's not clear as day but you can tell it is just a regular mass driver in both those pics. Don't even think of pulling the thought that I could be using better than Basic out your butt.
I had LASIK, so I'm good. I'm referring to the blurriness of the names/scores. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven EoN.
183
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:05:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case applies to ridiculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to have diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to find the balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game where poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it. We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all...
Yeah but a good player can pick up any weapon and do well with it. I picked up a militia sniper rifle for the first time since playing Bad Company 2 and went 40-0 in a Dominatipn earlier today. Knowing how to play will give you an advantage over others no matter what weapon you use, so your numbers don't necessarily prove how "no skill" the MD is.
I won't deny the MD needs to be tweaked, but if they do touch it then they need to revise all explosives in this game, including grenades. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2974
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:05:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. whats your opinion on nerfing? blast radius IMO but i've never used one so I was wondering what you thought I dont see many of the high power mass drivers being used (the one's with a tight blast radius) and I think its because its more of a skill shot unlike the ones we keep seeing in our killfeed I believe the radius needs to be nerfed down to 3-4 (after lvl5) and 5-6 with the assault one. I also think it needs reload after every shot. It needs to have the direct taken off since everybody only shoots at the feet and goes for splash anyway where it should be the other way around people should go for direct first. This gun is such a joke though it rewards you well for missing the shot or not even caring for direct dmg. I just focused on splash. This gun truly is a I win button. I won so many 1v4 1v3 with it EASILY. Reload after every shot lol funny. Question is went 16-4 using nothing besides the level 3 nova knife. I think it's op because I got a good score with a knife. Ha. The knife is not overpopulated your argument fails.. So because its not being used by a majority of the community ( eg the AR and MD) a weapon can't be considered OP by the very logic your using? He's not the one failing here... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3996
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:06:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
The knife is not overpopulated your argument fails..
By that logic, wouldn't the AR need a nerf? |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
153
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:06:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:[quote=Funkmaster Whale]Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case ridculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it.. /quote]
We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all... You mentioned me. I feel special, good job. You used the mass driver and got a good match. But again you cant say you got that score wity the mass driver alone. What suit you used? Did you use mods? All of this account a for your survivability. What did your team look like and what did the reds look like? You're ignoring these factors. What map was it etc. this is was a good attempt. Just because you had a good score doesn't mean it's op. Just mean you're a skilled player in which I congrats you. But I've went 28-4 a few times with tac ar. I went 16 and 4 with a damn nove knife. I even got pictures
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
3487
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:06:00 -
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I proto'ed my mass driver cause I missed the flay lock fun. Lol
Loving the mass driver |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:06:00 -
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Lol you irrelevant guys will come up with anything to protect your crutch I see. Lol |
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
371
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:07:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:bolsh lee wrote:So you're saying you can't do that with an AR ? Cause im a religious user of the MD and can do the very same if not better with the AR... Especially with the academy opening the flood gates lately....
Than why don't you? If you can use the AR just as good why do you use the MD? Because it's so much easier and I can tell you that. I was told how much harder and challenging it was to use and I have never use a grenade launcher in my life and was able to do this run and gunning with MD.
Ummmm I do ask my corp or watch my stream you aren't proving anything going up against random joes with an MD sorry. .. BTW I never said the MD wasn't easier that doesn't mean im going to stop using the MD especially like you did in a pub match melting scrubs that can't counter or have a squad worth a **** on the other side... |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:07:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:[quote=Funkmaster Whale]Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case ridculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it.. /quote]
We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all... You mentioned me. I feel special, good job. You used the mass driver and got a good match. But again you cant say you got that score wity the mass driver alone. What suit you used? Did you use mods? All of this account a for your survivability. What did your team look like and what did the reds look like? You're ignoring these factors. What map was it etc. this is was a good attempt. Just because you had a good score doesn't mean it's op. Just mean you're a skilled player in which I congrats you. But I've went 28-4 a few times with tac ar. I went 16 and 4 with a damn nove knife. I even got pictures
The pictures showed the basic mass driver was my favorite weapon..... EVEN if I lied and got some kills with something else I would still have to got a majority with the basic mass driver... |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
90
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote: So cause he stole some kills or managed to find them before me that means it's better? Lol Need Crutch much? The point is I was told earlier that if I used the MD I would see it requires true skill and more aim than the AR. That is a lie. This gun is far easier to use.
Sorry but from my point of view, only chart are objective.
(note, from a heavy point of view i will gain the best if the mass driver is nerfed, sain that just to clear the field from every misunderstanding)
Full squad of TEAMPLAYERS vs FULL squad of SYN-COSP you go 13-1 and i think you could do the same with the Duvolle and dont find your score as a prove of OP.
FULL TEAMPLAYER SQUAD VS a full squad of blueberries you go 32-2 and againg, i suppose you can do exactly the same with the duvolle, simply because your teamwork is really good. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2974
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol you irrelevant guys will come up with anything to protect your crutch I see. Lol I throw that right back at you, after all, your the one going on the offensive in the nerf war. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I proto'ed my mass driver cause I missed the flay lock fun. Lol Loving the mass driver I'm sure it's extremely effective as a heavy too. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1476
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. EDIT- I would like to point out that I was run and gun with this weapon. No camping up high and raining grenades down here.
Hail AR 514. All hail king AR. Go AR or go home. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:09:00 -
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Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2985
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:10:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:[quote=Funkmaster Whale]Any weapon that simply requires you aim in the general area of the enemy instead of directly hitting them is inherently going to be easier to use. The same case ridculous M1 and Core Locus Grenades.
CCP wants to diverse weaponry in their game but can't seem to balance for explosive weapons. First the Flaylock and now this. In a game poor hit detection means bullets not hitting and this not killing, people will veer towards weapons that don't require you to actually directly hit to do damage. It's a silly mechanic but I guess we just have to deal with it.. /quote]
We do but I am simply proving this gun takes no skill. For all the people who defend it left and right and go on a rant how hard and difficult it is to use. Earlier Flaylock Steve and a OH told me to use the MD to see how hard and challenging it was to use one. Judging by the pics I had no hard time at all... You mentioned me. I feel special, good job. You used the mass driver and got a good match. But again you cant say you got that score wity the mass driver alone. What suit you used? Did you use mods? All of this account a for your survivability. What did your team look like and what did the reds look like? You're ignoring these factors. What map was it etc. this is was a good attempt. Just because you had a good score doesn't mean it's op. Just mean you're a skilled player in which I congrats you. But I've went 28-4 a few times with tac ar. I went 16 and 4 with a damn nove knife. I even got pictures The pictures showed the basic mass driver was my favorite weapon..... EVEN if I lied and got some kills with something else I would still have to got a majority with the basic mass driver... Not really, it's just based on the fit you use, for all we know you could have just spammed nades at them or melee'd them. It just proves that you were carrying a MD. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
91
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:10:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it.
Please, answer to my post and fell free to say where my logic is failing. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
446
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:10:00 -
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NERF ALL THE THINGS!!!
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:10:00 -
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I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2985
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:12:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. The only guy whining here is you, tbh it sounds like you want a return to the tac AR days, when over 90% of the killed feed had "AR" in it. |
TXSnowman
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
29
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:12:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it.
I'm just glad your shotgun still takes so much skill. And it's not like the militia variant is effective at all. |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
252
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:12:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Yeah but a good player can pick up any weapon and do well with it. Just saw this, so +1
Sorry for the insult to the OP, but your suggestion is nonsensical. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 -
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TXSnowman wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ok so after I solo by myself and still **** with basic MD what will you say than? Just average joes on other side... There will ALWAYS be something you guys whine and throw in to attempt to protect your crutch and we all know it. I'm just glad your shotgun still takes so much skill. And it's not like the militia variant is effective at all.
Mad that I smash your corp into oblivion? Lol Thanks for the districts. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1477
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you.
Proof is in the killfeed.
Over, and over and over again.
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you.
I don't see how this has anything to do with anything. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2985
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you. Relevant? Are you still going on about that? Dude, please stop, it's getting pathetic, is your ego so small that you must cling to the fact that pretty much everyone else (corp and alliance wise) just went "meh, **** PC" and that you grabbed the undefended districts? It's getting pathetic, your just insulting yourself now. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
857
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:14:00 -
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I clearly stirred up the noob's nest |
MagmaSaber
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:14:00 -
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It's not an "I Win" button, it's an "I Win" bumper/trigger...
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