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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I was told in a couple posts earlier to use it and see it takes more aim and skill than the AR does. (before you look at the pics keep in mind I have never not once used any kind of grenade launcher in any shooting game or anything. Proof it was BasicFirst game using Grenade LauncherProof 32 kills BASIC MDI win button 32-3I have been playing for a couple of hours with level 1 MD and well you can ask my corp they all been pretty much like this. For those that say use the MD than say how easy it is, or those who say MD requires aim and more skill than AR. YOU ARE FULL OF BULLFUDGE! This is the easiest weapon I have used yet in this game. The mass driver requires little to NO skill at all. It's a OP weapon and needs to be nerfed ASAP. Thank you. EDIT- I would like to point out that I was run and gun with this weapon. No camping up high and raining grenades down here.
Hail AR 514. All hail king AR. Go AR or go home. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:13:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I have proven my point. MD takes ABSOLUTELY NO SKILL to use. You guys that say the AR is easy mode I don't see any proof that you guys are relevant. If ya were you'd still have districts and wouldn't be begging us to not destroy you.
Proof is in the killfeed.
Over, and over and over again.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:03:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cosgar wrote:Here's a strange thought: What if... all the weapons we had were as effective as the MD and AR? Would anyone really give a crap over what's OP and who's using what? It's too late for that. You ARE the problem. So what's next? Let's say CCP ignores all the statistics they follow and give in to a bunch of kneejerk reactions and something like the plasma canon or laser become widely used? You run your usual "tactics" of meeting everything head on, only to get popped and melted by squads of lasers and plasma cannons? You going to cry about those next?
This scenario is part of what is causing Dust to be less successful than it could be.
Instead of forcing players to learn tactics, CCP keeps pandering to the lowest common denominators (AR users) that just run and gun like idiots, and we have a less tactical, more dumbed down game because of it.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:11:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Cosgar wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Cosgar wrote:Here's a strange thought: What if... all the weapons we had were as effective as the MD and AR? Would anyone really give a crap over what's OP and who's using what? It's too late for that. You ARE the problem. So what's next? Let's say CCP ignores all the statistics they follow and give in to a bunch of kneejerk reactions and something like the plasma canon or laser become widely used? You run your usual "tactics" of meeting everything head on, only to get popped and melted by squads of lasers and plasma cannons? You going to cry about those next? This scenario is part of what is causing Dust to be less successful than it could be. Instead of forcing players to learn tactics, CCP keeps pandering to the lowest common denominators (AR users) that just run and gun like idiots, and we have a less tactical, more dumbed down game because of it. You have it backwards. YOU guys who use the nice little weird guns that give OHKs and all that "versatility" you guys like to have are the ones killing the game. The AR requires skill. All I ever see is you crying how easy the AR is to use but you don't use it. Yet you use all the crutch weapons and act like it takes talent that not everybody has you are clearly a joke.
The idea that the MD gives OHKs is stupid. Splash damage - the most complained about feature from the AR idiots - will net about 160 to 180 pts damage max.
The AR is, far and away, the best weapon in the game. It's already dominating, and it needs fixed, whereas people who kill with the MD would kill you 3 times as fast with the AR.
The MD is harder to use than the AR. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:26:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Using a prototype suit and then saying a weapon is op is out of the question. The survivbility this suit brings is of course going to land you more kill. As a matter of fact I suspect you would have gotten the same amount of kills with an assault rifle. I'll go further, The mass driver does have a tendancy of Kill stealling half dead enemies because of the alfa. This and the fact the your team did comparable to you means that A) you where either all protostomping or B) you where up against academy graduates which now only takes 400WP to get out of.
You argument is flawed. Using a prototype suit does not justify a weapon being OP. And you where using Logistics ck.0 which is prototype level. If you get more kills with a mass driver it just shows how bad a shot you possibly are. I cant count the num ber of times a duvolle assault rifles has not been able to kill my strd suit because of crappy marksmanship, and I'm not talking about me killing them either I have my team for that, I mostly logi. What I don't understand is how does the SUIT have ANYTHING to do with the weapon's effectiveness? Yes I could do this with a AR a DUVOLLE PROTO AR NOT BASIC AR.
Are you stupid? The suit gives you survivability. I think that directly affects how well you do with a weapon.
Man. I didn't realize AR users, I mean shotgun users, had this big a problem with thinking. (Sorry to the rest of you shotgun users, but Zero here claims to be one of you)
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:34:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I take offense every time I see "you AR users"  I use the AR.. but I also use the FG , sniper , submachine gun , SCR , MD , recently the shotgun , scrambler pistol , grenades , and this awesome weapon called teamwork
Sorry. Really.
There are exceptions to every stereotype, but the typical AR user is just a brainless run and gun type who rambos in to most battles (even if teamed up), and when his OP AR fails to get the kill for him, he comes and bitches on the forums about whatever the other weapon is.
Clearly not everyone who is specced into ARs fits this mold. Hell, I have specced into it some, but I don't use it as my main.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 17:43:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Point and FACT is you can run and gun "mindlessly" like Rambo with a MD. So stop using that it takes strategy to use as some kind of argument against the "crutch AR" users that use this method.
it is possible with the MD.
Apparently that's the only way you play.
ARs are better at it.
AR users consider this technique the height of tactics.
Dust is being dumbed down because of this, AR, mentality. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:hackerzilla wrote:I would pay attention to this idiotic rant trying to nerf the most balanced weapon in the game, but since you have no video proof that you were using the MD (all you have is number at the scoreboard) which could've been easily faked with a tank, I'm going to ignore your rage thread, and next time I see you I will whip out the trusty O'l freedom. Spoken like a true ..... If you compare the pics they show it was indeed with favorite weapon being basic MassDriver and than when you look at lobby board the stats are IDENTICAL to the T. Nice corp btw...
Except you were in proto gear supported by a proto squad. This could be done with any weapon, even the Plasma Cannon.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:16:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Buster Friently wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:hackerzilla wrote:I would pay attention to this idiotic rant trying to nerf the most balanced weapon in the game, but since you have no video proof that you were using the MD (all you have is number at the scoreboard) which could've been easily faked with a tank, I'm going to ignore your rage thread, and next time I see you I will whip out the trusty O'l freedom. Spoken like a true ..... If you compare the pics they show it was indeed with favorite weapon being basic MassDriver and than when you look at lobby board the stats are IDENTICAL to the T. Nice corp btw... Except you were in proto gear supported by a proto squad. This could be done with any weapon, even the Plasma Cannon. So lets see it.
Actaul, meaninful information has already been collected for you, try to keep up:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678
and:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94246
Obviously CCP has better data. |
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