So if someone disobeys the rules, you will attack them? What if you lose to them over and over and can't do anything about it?

Perhaps an amendment to rule 7 should be followups on cargo hubs. Personally i think everyone on Odd should invest 100M and switch to cargo hubs.

This would allow a 2nd followup attack without endangering the district of being flipped unless clone losses were really that severe to lose 450 clones in 2 battles would be quite a feat especially when all the defender would have to do is concede the defeat if it looks like the district is in danger of being cloned out, if the MCC is destroyed and there are still clones left then you will keep it.


This would allow corps to have 2 matches a night which may be mutually beneficial to the corps if they arent 1 sided. If they are one sided by the attacker then following up may just be a waste of time for them so no need to followup anyway.

150m is absurd, I would spend 90m on and attack then pay that **** of a price.

150m is absurd, I would spend 90m on and attack then pay that **** of a price.

I'm not the CEO but I'll say that MSF would like to sign up. I'll get word to my CEO or directors so that they can come here and do the talking.

ya good rules cubs, im really excited.

besides the 150mil is more of an investment. if PFC isnt for you anymore, you could probably sell the land again. MSF wants in, and a special request...

if dystopia dosnt want to move out.... can we have a shot at them first? i feel like it could save us 150 mil paying you to take someone out I think we can take out (as long as EoN dosnt help dystopia)

besides it would give my corp guys good training in taking a district in PC. if not, i will happly pay the 150 though.

If a merc is to do good, we need to train, 150mil for a "Mother Base" is not a bad price

Thx for all your work trying to make fight club happen.

Perhaps an amendment to rule 7 should be followups on cargo hubs. Personally i think everyone on Odd should invest 100M and switch to cargo hubs.

This would allow a 2nd followup attack without endangering the district of being flipped unless clone losses were really that severe to lose 450 clones in 2 battles would be quite a feat especially when all the defender would have to do is concede the defeat if it looks like the district is in danger of being cloned out, if the MCC is destroyed and there are still clones left then you will keep it.


This would allow corps to have 2 matches a night which may be mutually beneficial to the corps if they arent 1 sided. If they are one sided by the attacker then following up may just be a waste of time for them so no need to followup anyway.

Cubs, I have got to hand it to you. I never thought I would see the day that someone would actually bring a system of order to PC. You should all feel excited. You're making DUST history. I don't think anyone else in the history of the game will be able to say "We ran MH" Now all that follows is maintaining your image. It won't be long before someone, or some group, sees you as a Tyrant more than a king. Someone will feel slighted, demonize you, and try to make moves on EoN's sand catsle. (This is all roleplay here). And it's gonna be great.

I don't agree with this because it then limits the map sockets players fight on. After having six battles with that main socket, I wanted a change and dropped the 100 mill to swap our district over to a production facility. In a couple of weeks I will probably change it to a research lab, even though those are rarely seen in the wild.

I am less concerned with having multiple fights in a night as I am having the option to see all the map configurations possible to both help my team develop and also for adapting team structure to the map layouts. Restricting all of PFC to one large socket type prevents proper strategic developments from happening in corps that desperately need to develop them.

Ok chicago just went back from talking to my CEO and the one on GAC atf, they both agree to move out from Oddeluf peacefully. Just with two conditions:
1.- Keep the districts just like it has been, non-attacked from part of your alliance to whichever our next little piece of MH would be and
2.- A more personal one, make those districts a real opportunity for the smaller corps to feel the heat of PC; we were always too invested in it as a job at first and the proto fights were relentless and just for a few selected elite from each corp (ended up tiring and even sickening a lot of us, in the end we throw the towel and give up even before the new PC hit the server) but I'm sure that with certain liberties along the smaller corps those fights can really be a ton of fun.

I'll await for the details in the allocation of the districts and the movement thereof, we won't attack anything in Oddeluf just like before. For anything involving GAC you can contact me here or in-game. Grupo de Asalto Chacal will return to PC with full force in September, wish every small/medium corp the best fights.

as always I have no dealings with backroom deals and whatnot. this is all public, if dystopia doesn't want to move out, and abides by the rules, they are entitled to their district as much as anyone.

I am not currently looking at the map, thus have not pegged any particular districts to be moved. GAC has already stated they are willing to move their 2 districts, and I will be looking at the map and identifying those that are not active on Oddeluf, approaching each individually before simply attacking them myself to flip.

150m means little to me anymore, but I'm the EXTREME minority on that. tbh SI is likely the only other corp I can think of that 150m wouldn't mean much to them.

but its still the principle

Sorry for making questions on a close deal but I'm from the guys who doesn't read the small letters. XP

We move out from Oddeluf but we need to fight for another district?

We really don't want the 150 mill if we can just move the district elsewhere, in fact that's what we really want.
Don't know if Molon Labe has other district, if it does we just make a swap (today even). But an intermediary would be needed in MSF situation.

Again sorry if I read wrong somewhere

well good thing you aren't going to be there.

yes the 150m seems high, but this is incentive for the current landowner to move, as well as the peace of mind that as long as you abide by the rules, you are in no danger of being ousted

someone takes your land, worst case scenario... all rules followed you will be getting it back

Yes I am the self-appointed Oddeluf Police Department

and I have Sherriff Regnum and Co. with the EoN. S.W.A.T. team at my disposal

I am posting the price publicly to show all what it is and also showing I make ZERO profit from this. yet another example of trying to enhance the experience of Dust for those interested

6: Dont give us the oh we helped indies crap again either, that wasnt to help anything but your wallet and make it so you control who comes and gos in PC. You keep doing it because when ever they need ringers you are the one they pay. Its all PR BS and business not to "Save the game" If you wanna save it split the alliance. Give away alll your districts and then you will have battles again. But you wont because your that irritateing GF that wants all the money she can get. HERES YOUR PROOF FROM THE MAN HIMSELF.

Our alliance fights as an alliance and practices as an alliance. Is this practice now to be disallowed on Oddelulf?

if that's a deal you 2 can work out, then that's fine.

if not, I can facilitate such a transaction as last I checked I have some land lol

I wont be in game until later today tho, likely around 2200 eve time would be the earliest I can get on

Our alliance fights as an alliance and practices as an alliance. Is this practice now to be disallowed on Oddelulf?

Ok man, we really don't care about the money. Just have our districts.

I contact you (a channel) at that time and resolve it. Thor can you be at that time?

ATF CEO just went to sleep he connects at 1300 eve time, so that will be tomorrow - same deal.

The lies.




Quit the we are making zero profit crap, thats exactly why the price is so high.

Ok man, we really don't care about the money. Just have our districts.
I contact you (a channel) at that time and resolve it. Thor can you be at that time?
ATF CEO just went to sleep he connects at 1300 eve time, so that will be tomorrow - same deal.

It's nice to see some sort of stated out rules. We have been making the best of it. Good training ground. Always been a supporter of the idea. But one thing though, there are few hints of threats in there. Who'd be fight club police?

no not necessarily.

the entire purpose of really pushing what has been stated is to remove people using ringers... as stated, defining 'ringers' is really necessary to make that end crystal clear

my view is no playing with and fighting with members of your alliance I personally do NOT see as 'ringers'

using random good players, even pulling people out of local chat (kind of an extreme scenario that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to), hitting up top tier corp A for help on a fight club battle... that's NOT allowed

I don't think there is a way to avoid a gray area on that, as the time with altbrard has shown.

Oddeluf is intended to make the corps there BETTER and more EXPERIENCED in PC, so that they can gain the confidence to move out into the rest of the galaxy and make their mark on Molden Heath.

fighting as an alliance is a proven tactic.

Now Burgezz attacks dystopia and dystopia has 5 Team Players.. well that's what is to be avoided

Zion attacks IE and zion has 3 players from STB and IE has a couple guys from Ancient Exiles and a Nyain san... totally cool

you get the point.

Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be

in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)

first off... RULES

1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y
* as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as
this is not the norm*

1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof'
take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation

1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y.
playing on behalf of corp x is allowed

2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week

3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)

4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)

5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.

6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)

7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence

7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any
attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district
*NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.

7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking
team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup

8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC

I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit

Want to make it public knowledge that WTF what the French broke this rule to attack are district in melidof. distirct 7


I sent proof to chicago cubs who was also present in the battle that occurred.

Want to make it public knowledge that WTF what the French broke this rule to attack are district in melidof. distirct 7


I sent proof to chicago cubs who was also present in the battle that occurred.

Oddelulf III - District 7
Meildolf V - District 3

I was told to post these pics because What the French used fight club clones to flip our district in Meildof V. I don't any of the politics just following orders.

Edit: Quickgloves just told me Grupo de Asalto Chacal is doing the same thing

Since Teamplayers occupied two districts on PFC without compensating the original owners 150 million ISK I happy to hear that Teamplayers will be handing these districts to new occupiers at no cost.

Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers.

Since Teamplayers occupied two districts on PFC without compensating the original owners 150 million ISK I happy to hear that Teamplayers will be handing these districts to new occupiers at no cost.

Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers.

Actually they were removed due to inactivity. And in the match, 0 players showed up for them thus validating the move. Im in contact with those on the wait list to get them situated.

I have nothing against betamax, and have talked with yokel who did his best to keep things going for a long time. all of their directors as well as their ceo have been mia, which undoubtedly made his life very hard in his task. I have great respect for him and wish him and the others the best

But at this time there are active corps that want to get in and get to matches, thus the move was made.

Everyone appreciates the work you did in the past to get this thing going, but we have taken over the responsibility of maintenance and the corps in contact with interest are working with us to get them going to get the good fights they want

All I'll say is if you do such moves you should make a post about it - this isn't something that was set up for an individual group to control behind the scenes. You should make your moves more public or it may turn against you someday.

Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.

We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience.

Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting.

Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting.

Id puke in your butt any day bby

Look it up on google under videos...man challenge

Mike hit me up today I believe we are ready to proceed with you guys as well

It was brought up under one of the Independent Corporations Network (ICN) threads, and I think it's a great question to bring up here. Referring to this rule:

1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y.
playing on behalf of corp x is allowed


What do we think about Independents helping other Independents on PFC?

now I believe you are pushing it. We have agreed in 'alliance' members helping each other in such matches, and its already stated that having '1 or 2' members not officially affiliated with a corp to participate.

obviously 1 or 2 could stretch to 3, perhaps 4 in a rare instance, but if you have to rely on others all the time due to the fact you do not have 16 active members in your corp, then that corp would need to be reevaluated in regard to its membership.

now here's the twist... Say corp A, although not officially in an 'alliance' has close ties with corp B.

corp A has matches, and corp B is always assisting in those matches.

I don't see an issue with this, especially when corp B holds no land anywhere.. so basically the land of Corp A is in reality land for both Corp A AND Corp B

And this is interesting because I don't think everyone knows that you should have to field 16 from your own personal corp on PFC. If you HAVE to use 1-4 alliance members on OCCASION, then that's okay. If you have to field them more than on occasion, there might be a problem.

Is that what you're saying?

I think that's the problem SoTa. I know that Se\7eN will only field our own members for a PFC battle.

But I think people--maybe just me--are struggling with these "alliances." If the Team Players' district on PFC gets attacked, can they only bring TPs? What if they have to bring a couple RND to fill out the 16?

The thought right now is that it's okay to bring a couple alliance members to fill out the 16, but--from what Cubs just said--it shouldn't happen often. I think this is new information for some people.

Before you launch the attack you should send word to the CEO and wait for a response of agreement. Not all corps are ready all the time, and PFC is a training ground to give weaker corps a chance to play real games and get the experience which often means they don't have a large pool of players to pull from - which is why the mail is important.

Once accepted it's up to both sides to fill slots - if they can't and it happens often they'll be removed from PFC and the spot will be given to a more deserving corp. It's not a perfect system - but it's designed for PC ready corps - and PC ready means you'll need to be prepared almost all day to fight.

If the argument is, "In the real PC you can use ringers and alliance mates though!" Then go out into PC and stay away from PFC. Anyone can bring in A team ringers to make your corp seem better then it is - and that degrades the point of PFC.

If you send word to the other corp and say, "we'll have to bring in a few ringers." and they accept or you reply and say the same thing and they accept - then it's a no issue. But refrain from using Leaderboard ringers or players who are already a part of an A team.

This was all explained somewhere - but the thread is lost in space lol

I'm not pushing anything, Cubs. It's a simple question that was brought up on another thread. i'm not buying or selling.

Truth be told, there are ways around everything. Independents could become part of one giant alliance (it's just a little label under your corp name) without it actually being an alliance. Then they would fit the description.

So, that premise led me to ask the simple question to get everyone's thoughts. As you stated, the main purpose of PFC is to have good fights. The secondary purpose is to train corps, in my opinion.

Just playing Devil's advocate, but I think they're valid questions.

Before you launch the attack you should send word to the CEO and wait for a response of agreement. Not all corps are ready all the time, and PFC is a training ground to give weaker corps a chance to play real games and get the experience which often means they don't have a large pool of players to pull from - which is why the mail is important.

Once accepted it's up to both sides to fill slots - if they can't and it happens often they'll be removed from PFC and the spot will be given to a more deserving corp. It's not a perfect system - but it's designed for PC ready corps - and PC ready means you'll need to be prepared almost all day to fight.

If the argument is, "In the real PC you can use ringers and alliance mates though!" Then go out into PC and stay away from PFC. Anyone can bring in A team ringers to make your corp seem better then it is - and that degrades the point of PFC.

If you send word to the other corp and say, "we'll have to bring in a few ringers." and they accept or you reply and say the same thing and they accept - then it's a no issue. But refrain from using Leaderboard ringers or players who are already a part of an A team.


This was all explained somewhere - but the thread is lost in space lol

But I think people--maybe just me--are struggling with these "alliances." If the Team Players' district on PFC gets attacked, can they only bring TPs? What if they have to bring a couple RND to fill out the 16?

In order to open up wider access to PFC maybe what is needed is a new rule to allow at most 1 PFC district for each timezone an alliance occupies. This would mean at most 4 districts to an alliance on PFC to cover NA, EU, AU, and Asia TZ.

This would greatly increase the variety in the presence on PFC and ensure one alliance doesn't hold too much control over the neutral zone. Each alliance could then choose their most active corp in each timezone to maintain their set PFC timezone district.

In order to open up wider access to PFC maybe what is needed is a new rule to allow at most 1 PFC district for each timezone an alliance occupies. This would mean at most 4 districts to an alliance on PFC to cover NA, EU, AU, and Asia TZ.

This would greatly increase the variety in the presence on PFC and ensure one alliance doesn't hold too much control over the neutral zone. Each alliance could then choose their most active corp in each timezone to maintain their set PFC timezone district.

Before you launch the attack you should send word to the CEO and wait for a response of agreement. Not all corps are ready all the time, and PFC is a training ground to give weaker corps a chance to play real games and get the experience which often means they don't have a large pool of players to pull from - which is why the mail is important.

Once accepted it's up to both sides to fill slots - if they can't and it happens often they'll be removed from PFC and the spot will be given to a more deserving corp. It's not a perfect system - but it's designed for PC ready corps - and PC ready means you'll need to be prepared almost all day to fight.

If the argument is, "In the real PC you can use ringers and alliance mates though!" Then go out into PC and stay away from PFC. Anyone can bring in A team ringers to make your corp seem better then it is - and that degrades the point of PFC.

If you send word to the other corp and say, "we'll have to bring in a few ringers." and they accept or you reply and say the same thing and they accept - then it's a no issue. But refrain from using Leaderboard ringers or players who are already a part of an A team.

This was all explained somewhere - but the thread is lost in space lol

I think that's the problem SoTa. I know that Se\7eN will only field our own members for a PFC battle.

But I think people--maybe just me--are struggling with these "alliances." If the Team Players' district on PFC gets attacked, can they only bring TPs? What if they have to bring a couple RND to fill out the 16?

The thought right now is that it's okay to bring a couple alliance members to fill out the 16, but--from what Cubs just said--it shouldn't happen often. I think this is new information for some people.

As SoTah pointed out, I recall PFC actually being consensual, though we've been constantly and continually attacked non-consensually on PFC, so we assumed they threw that out the window.

But given that it's PFC, a lot of times, if you talk to the opposing corp ahead of time, if you show up short, like with 12, they'll bring 12 as well.

SoTa, great points. And I agree with you. We're fine with other teams bringing in enough guys to field 16 because the main purpose is to have good battles, but it's good to get the "okay" before the battle actually happens. But your thoughts are contradictory to what has been decided--or what I thought had been decided--where a corp can field a team of 16 on PFC made up of all alliance members; it doesn't matter if they're part of the corp that owns the district or not.

I didn't want to muddy the waters, but I initially wanted to know how this rule applies to Independents helping each other. There are numerous Independents that want to do battles on PFC, but they might not be able to field a full 16. They're not part of an alliance. So, could they grab people from the Idependent Corporations Network (ICN) channel to help?

According to the stated rules, this would not be okay since the Independents are not part of an official alliance.

Disagree. I'd rather see major corps already well beyond needing a PFC district move off PFC. This would include the Internal Error and Nyan San districts as well as SyNergy's, Red Star's (perhaps changed to red star jr. if anything), and of course our own. This translates as an attempt at undermining EoN's presence on PFC solely.

This would greatly increase the variety on PFC, and not single out one alliance.

Which corps are using alliance ringers? Which corps are attacking at random? These are the things that need to be stomped on and a message to the CEO explaining that's not how it should be so that it's fairer to all the small corps involved.

I'd be more then happy to send my boys into PFC - and I'm sure TP would too - to smash out corps who think the point of it is simply to fight. PFC's point isn't just 'good battles' it was to give lesser experience corps a chance to learn. A safe haven runned by the larger alliances so one day they can leave PFC and branch out. Skill is a huge issue currently - and everyone only wants to use A teamers making it hard to bring up that skill.

But like I said - if it's agreed upon ringers are fine then it's a no issue.

ChicagoCubs - you seem to be the fore-front to running this. How about write up some PFC rules so it can simply be linked and highlighted when corps start polluting the idea?

Read the beginning of this thread :)

Which corps are using alliance ringers? Which corps are attacking at random? These are the things that need to be stomped on and a message to the CEO explaining that's not how it should be so that it's fairer to all the small corps involved.

IE loves there PFC district - all our new recruits are thrown into it as often as we can set up a match. :3

Maybe we can allow alliance ringers - but it's seems unfair to indie corps.

Forget the language of alliance and corp meaning the same thing. A corp is just those people with the tag under their name on the left of this post.

So, plainly state, is it okay for a corp to bring in alliance members to field a PFC match? It doesn't matter how many. Is it okay for them to do this?

The difference is, an actual alliance has a command structure and a unified behavior. It's not just a pile of random corps shoved together. An alliance fights as one, so it practices as one on fight club. But there's no obligation for ringers to fight with your corp, so why would you practice with them?



This would be a huge help. Our EU faction is finding it hard to find districts to fight with in their own time zone. If they could have a PFC district too, everyone in the alliance would be able to benefit from PFC, whereas they can't right now.

Disagree. I'd rather see major corps already well beyond needing a PFC district move off PFC. This would include the Internal Error and Nyan San districts as well as SyNergy's, Red Star's (perhaps changed to red star jr. if anything), and of course our own. This translates as an attempt at undermining EoN's presence on PFC solely.

This would greatly increase the variety on PFC, and not single out one alliance.

You could just attack another district during an appropriately set EU timer. GAC, Nyan San, WTF, SI, they all have one. Furthermore if you know another corp on PFC that has an EU division you could get in touch with them and change your timer for the fight to accomodate your players.

according to cubs rules - yes.

Our PFC district is rarely not under attack, we're quite popular. And then it would deprive our US side of a good practice ground.

(I miss corp battles.)

You could just attack another district during an appropriately set EU timer. GAC, Nyan San, WTF, SI, they all have one. Furthermore if you know another corp on PFC that has an EU division you could get in touch with them and change your timer for the fight to accomodate your players.

The more complicated we make it, the greater chance it doesn't succeed.

If u have a district, u only use clones on that planet

If u have a district, you should have your own players to play, with exceptions

If u have a district, you need to be active.... 1-2 matches/week or more

Honestly that's it. We get 24 corps to do this fight club will be nonstop fun

Already 10 or so that are doing great.

Ill admit I was skeptical when IE moved there but I have been thoroughly pleased with their activity

.....using as intended. +1 IE

Some people consider alliance members "your own players," others feel that only those with the corp tag are considered "your own players." The only reason I'm asking is for Independents. If they can only participate in PFC--without getting "in trouble"--is for them to have to field 16, then that's something they should know.

Look it up on google under videos...man challenge

Random people from a public channel are not "your own players". Doesn't get much simpler than that.

Hahahaha done and done. Sadly I've seen much, much worse.

Fine when I get home I will aswell but not at work lmao I hear 2 girls 1 cup is as sexy as it gets

every single person starts off as a random; it doesn't matter if they're in an alliance or not. i could have great relationships with guys in the ICN channel--played a ton of pub matches with them--but simply because we don't share an extra tag under our corp name somehow diminishes that relationship?

however, if Top Men or EoN gets a new recruit in one of the alliance corps, he/she can participate in PFC simply because they joined a corp in an alliance.

How does that make sense?

Yes this, for most part (kobrah u sick puppy) this remains a productive conversation. There is obviously a lot of input regarding 'who' is to participate in matches. We have agreed alliance is acceptable, which leaves the independents at a potential numbers disadvantage. This independent chat has been suggested, but I still see this as an unlikely solution in and of itself.

I am personally impartial on the topic as IDGAF who plays against us. At the same time this is an important issue as there are mixed feelings from various people on the subject,

The mere fact that fight club matches mean nothihg about winning or losing, but about just playing pc matches and getting experience, goes a long way in addressing the personnel question.

I agree if u aren't using your own people you really aren't helping your teamwork/chemistry/ preparation for moving into the rest of molden heath.

At the same time, numbers can be an issue at any moment, for anyone

Alliances have other corpss to choose fron, independents have nothing in this regard

Any other ideas that could resolve this?

This discussion has come about because an indie corp has attacked the NEWM district and has asked for help from other indie corps in the ICN channel. The initial corp does not have a district on fight club and will be attacking via clone pack. The dilemma is that SE7N is part of the ICN and does own a PFC district. Which may make us violate this rule if we offer assistance to the Indie corp. SE7N and NEWM have some history and that may be why this discussion is happening. Not sure...

If you can drink an entire chocolate milkshake while watching that video, you are a real man.

Well, we've been attacked on PFC by 11/16 ringers. So... par for the course.

Indies need love too...

So, you're saying EoN players (or anyone else) are allowed to fully violate PFC rules? As long as the clones don't originate from PFC? And that a resident corp's members can not only break PFC rules, but that resident won't be putting their own district at risk?

Well we certainly didn't show them any in that PFC match

And not to mention 4 of them were in 187...

Good! lessons learned the hard way are some of the best lessons learned! 187 has gone independent you know. An organized team should be able to defeat a ragtag group of Independents any day. I discouraged SE7N mercs to participate but in the end it was up to them. Hope you all had fun.

Now back on topic.

The problem with saying "we don't care where the attacks originate, or who rings in them" just means that anyone can attack PFC districts with ringers. They just have to use a dummy corp, with one guy to bring all the people from such and such other corp in. It's basically you saying Murder Cakes behavior is okay on PFC.

Now on a productive note, Pradox One is the latest resident, courtesy of Intrepidus IXI!

My patience is growing thin. How is attacking a pfc district from off the planet any form of violation? Any corp is welcome to do this, but are not allowed to take the district.

If you guys would stop looking for excuse all the time about this and that and actually play the damn game you would be so much better off.

Districts should NEVER be at risk on oddeluf if you are active and don't attack with those clones outside oddeluf

Wtf is with all the negativity all of a sudden?

There will always be random attacks on your land. This even happens to us, regularly. You cannot get bent out of shape every time someone attacks you without warning. Personally I likely wouldn't contact you prior to sending an attack. If the district is online, you are available for a match. Way too much QQ over some of the simplest things.

Undobutedly its appreciated to contact the opponent ahead of time, but required or even expected? No


Being an oddeluf resident removes the worry of ever losing your land as long as you abide by the simple rules. Some of you seem to forget this.

In the event you DO lose your land for some reason, this is when you get in touch with me or other residents and we will get it back. Plain and simple

Just like Altbrard, the low/middle tier planet that a certain flying circus seems to think they can take land there and that rules don't apply to them.

On another note, warravens needs to contact me today. I am not inclined to allow a corp onto oddeluf that flat out no shows for their tournament match....

Not a good sign imo

So, Cubs is now endorsing ringing for PFC. Guess EoN players need more ringer money then.

4. If you have a district on Oddeluf, be prepared to fight anyone; it doesn't matter if they are part of the corp attacking or defending.

Perfectly stated +1

What im saying is stop the damn QQ and get your fights, use your alliance, and get better.

I've added you to the list. Who is a good ingame contact?

well good thing you aren't going to be there.

yes the 150m seems high, but this is incentive for the current landowner to move, as well as the peace of mind that as long as you abide by the rules, you are in no danger of being ousted

someone takes your land, worst case scenario... all rules followed you will be getting it back

Yes I am the self-appointed Oddeluf Police Department

and I have Sherriff Regnum and Co. with the EoN. S.W.A.T. team at my disposal

I am posting the price publicly to show all what it is and also showing I make ZERO profit from this. yet another example of trying to enhance the experience of Dust for those interested

Sounds like MSF is in contact with grupo and getting it sorted finally!

Loathing get in touch with me hopefully we can sort you this weekend

Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be

in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)

first off... RULES

1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y
* as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as
this is not the norm*

1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof'
take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation

1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y.
playing on behalf of corp x is allowed

2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week

3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)

4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)

5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.

6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)

7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence

7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any
attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district
*NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.

7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking
team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup

8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC

I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit

Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be

in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)

first off... RULES

1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y
* as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as
this is not the norm*

1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof'
take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation

1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y.
playing on behalf of corp x is allowed

2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week

3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)

4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)

5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.

6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)

7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence

7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any
attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district
*NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.

7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking
team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup

8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC

I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit

I do respect what your doing bro, but I have to call you out on this one... We put an attack out on RisingSuns, i'm sure they knew it would be a good fight, so what do they do? Well they call for help lmfao, a full squad of TeamPlayers (you included) show up with other randoms and only 4 of the RIsingSuns guys showed up... At that point I knew I was being targeted as this was one of our first pc battles... So the only question to be asked if you guys are the police, who polices the police?

You are referring to a match NOT on Oddeluf...

Sounds like MSF is in contact with grupo and getting it sorted finally!

Loathing get in touch with me hopefully we can sort you this weekend

Welcome Subdreddit to Fight Club!

Been trying to track you down for days mate, you're a hard man to find. When can we catch up?

So pls guys clear up why Tea Baggers took our District yesterday. I asked our directors, nobody has took clones from PFC-District to attack outside from PFC.
You can belive guys, we never did brok the rules

Unless we have video proof I agree we should believe you and secure that district from True tea Baggers to return it to you strictly for PFC use.

Unless we have video proof I agree we should believe you and secure that district from True tea Baggers to return it to you strictly for PFC use.

Welcome Southern Legion! Courtesy of Team Players!

Unless we have video proof I agree we should believe you and secure that district from True tea Baggers to return it to you strictly for PFC use.

After a thorough investigation and interviewing several 'eye witnesses' the prosecution simply lacks enough hard evidence for the circuit judge to allow the case to be pursued. The O.P.D. is now in the process of reacquiring and transferring the parcel back to UPS.

A contact person from UPS available in north american evenings will be necessary to claim and complete the transfer

Cubs, can we have back ur PFC district or not?

well it appears Contract Hunters has taken that district from TTB...

Not sure what else is available atm. I know of another corp that may be looking to move off. I will get in touch with them and see what we can do.

I also know of another rule breaker that we may have to evict to get you back there...

rest assured you are not forgotten, just determining logistics

Are there any PFC Residents interested in hosting a Thunderdome?

Are there any PFC Residents interested in hosting a Thunderdome?

ok thx :)

please get someone from UPS in touch with me, we will get you a home back on Oddeluf.

It wont be the SAME district, as from what ive seen and heard Contract Hunters earned their district, but I am offering a replacement.

hit me up on Skype: chicagocubsnbears or mail me ingame and we can get it sorted.

thanks