So if someone disobeys the rules, you will attack them? What if you lose to them over and over and can't do anything about it?

Perhaps an amendment to rule 7 should be followups on cargo hubs. Personally i think everyone on Odd should invest 100M and switch to cargo hubs.

This would allow a 2nd followup attack without endangering the district of being flipped unless clone losses were really that severe to lose 450 clones in 2 battles would be quite a feat especially when all the defender would have to do is concede the defeat if it looks like the district is in danger of being cloned out, if the MCC is destroyed and there are still clones left then you will keep it.


This would allow corps to have 2 matches a night which may be mutually beneficial to the corps if they arent 1 sided. If they are one sided by the attacker then following up may just be a waste of time for them so no need to followup anyway.

150m is absurd, I would spend 90m on and attack then pay that **** of a price.

150m is absurd, I would spend 90m on and attack then pay that **** of a price.

I'm not the CEO but I'll say that MSF would like to sign up. I'll get word to my CEO or directors so that they can come here and do the talking.

ya good rules cubs, im really excited.

besides the 150mil is more of an investment. if PFC isnt for you anymore, you could probably sell the land again. MSF wants in, and a special request...

if dystopia dosnt want to move out.... can we have a shot at them first? i feel like it could save us 150 mil paying you to take someone out I think we can take out (as long as EoN dosnt help dystopia)

besides it would give my corp guys good training in taking a district in PC. if not, i will happly pay the 150 though.

If a merc is to do good, we need to train, 150mil for a "Mother Base" is not a bad price

Thx for all your work trying to make fight club happen.

Cubs, I have got to hand it to you. I never thought I would see the day that someone would actually bring a system of order to PC. You should all feel excited. You're making DUST history. I don't think anyone else in the history of the game will be able to say "We ran MH" Now all that follows is maintaining your image. It won't be long before someone, or some group, sees you as a Tyrant more than a king. Someone will feel slighted, demonize you, and try to make moves on EoN's sand catsle. (This is all roleplay here). And it's gonna be great.

I don't agree with this because it then limits the map sockets players fight on. After having six battles with that main socket, I wanted a change and dropped the 100 mill to swap our district over to a production facility. In a couple of weeks I will probably change it to a research lab, even though those are rarely seen in the wild.

I am less concerned with having multiple fights in a night as I am having the option to see all the map configurations possible to both help my team develop and also for adapting team structure to the map layouts. Restricting all of PFC to one large socket type prevents proper strategic developments from happening in corps that desperately need to develop them.

Ok chicago just went back from talking to my CEO and the one on GAC atf, they both agree to move out from Oddeluf peacefully. Just with two conditions:
1.- Keep the districts just like it has been, non-attacked from part of your alliance to whichever our next little piece of MH would be and
2.- A more personal one, make those districts a real opportunity for the smaller corps to feel the heat of PC; we were always too invested in it as a job at first and the proto fights were relentless and just for a few selected elite from each corp (ended up tiring and even sickening a lot of us, in the end we throw the towel and give up even before the new PC hit the server) but I'm sure that with certain liberties along the smaller corps those fights can really be a ton of fun.

I'll await for the details in the allocation of the districts and the movement thereof, we won't attack anything in Oddeluf just like before. For anything involving GAC you can contact me here or in-game. Grupo de Asalto Chacal will return to PC with full force in September, wish every small/medium corp the best fights.

Sorry for making questions on a close deal but I'm from the guys who doesn't read the small letters. XP

We move out from Oddeluf but we need to fight for another district?

We really don't want the 150 mill if we can just move the district elsewhere, in fact that's what we really want.
Don't know if Molon Labe has other district, if it does we just make a swap (today even). But an intermediary would be needed in MSF situation.

Again sorry if I read wrong somewhere

Our alliance fights as an alliance and practices as an alliance. Is this practice now to be disallowed on Oddelulf?

Ok man, we really don't care about the money. Just have our districts.

I contact you (a channel) at that time and resolve it. Thor can you be at that time?

ATF CEO just went to sleep he connects at 1300 eve time, so that will be tomorrow - same deal.

The lies.




Quit the we are making zero profit crap, thats exactly why the price is so high.

Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers.

It was brought up under one of the Independent Corporations Network (ICN) threads, and I think it's a great question to bring up here. Referring to this rule:

1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y.
playing on behalf of corp x is allowed


What do we think about Independents helping other Independents on PFC?

I'm not pushing anything, Cubs. It's a simple question that was brought up on another thread. i'm not buying or selling.

Truth be told, there are ways around everything. Independents could become part of one giant alliance (it's just a little label under your corp name) without it actually being an alliance. Then they would fit the description.

So, that premise led me to ask the simple question to get everyone's thoughts. As you stated, the main purpose of PFC is to have good fights. The secondary purpose is to train corps, in my opinion.

Just playing Devil's advocate, but I think they're valid questions.

Before you launch the attack you should send word to the CEO and wait for a response of agreement. Not all corps are ready all the time, and PFC is a training ground to give weaker corps a chance to play real games and get the experience which often means they don't have a large pool of players to pull from - which is why the mail is important.

Once accepted it's up to both sides to fill slots - if they can't and it happens often they'll be removed from PFC and the spot will be given to a more deserving corp. It's not a perfect system - but it's designed for PC ready corps - and PC ready means you'll need to be prepared almost all day to fight.

If the argument is, "In the real PC you can use ringers and alliance mates though!" Then go out into PC and stay away from PFC. Anyone can bring in A team ringers to make your corp seem better then it is - and that degrades the point of PFC.

If you send word to the other corp and say, "we'll have to bring in a few ringers." and they accept or you reply and say the same thing and they accept - then it's a no issue. But refrain from using Leaderboard ringers or players who are already a part of an A team.


This was all explained somewhere - but the thread is lost in space lol

I think that's the problem SoTa. I know that Se\7eN will only field our own members for a PFC battle.

But I think people--maybe just me--are struggling with these "alliances." If the Team Players' district on PFC gets attacked, can they only bring TPs? What if they have to bring a couple RND to fill out the 16?

The thought right now is that it's okay to bring a couple alliance members to fill out the 16, but--from what Cubs just said--it shouldn't happen often. I think this is new information for some people.

As SoTah pointed out, I recall PFC actually being consensual, though we've been constantly and continually attacked non-consensually on PFC, so we assumed they threw that out the window.

But given that it's PFC, a lot of times, if you talk to the opposing corp ahead of time, if you show up short, like with 12, they'll bring 12 as well.

Disagree. I'd rather see major corps already well beyond needing a PFC district move off PFC. This would include the Internal Error and Nyan San districts as well as SyNergy's, Red Star's (perhaps changed to red star jr. if anything), and of course our own. This translates as an attempt at undermining EoN's presence on PFC solely.

This would greatly increase the variety on PFC, and not single out one alliance.

Which corps are using alliance ringers? Which corps are attacking at random? These are the things that need to be stomped on and a message to the CEO explaining that's not how it should be so that it's fairer to all the small corps involved.

I'd be more then happy to send my boys into PFC - and I'm sure TP would too - to smash out corps who think the point of it is simply to fight. PFC's point isn't just 'good battles' it was to give lesser experience corps a chance to learn. A safe haven runned by the larger alliances so one day they can leave PFC and branch out. Skill is a huge issue currently - and everyone only wants to use A teamers making it hard to bring up that skill.

But like I said - if it's agreed upon ringers are fine then it's a no issue.

ChicagoCubs - you seem to be the fore-front to running this. How about write up some PFC rules so it can simply be linked and highlighted when corps start polluting the idea?

You could just attack another district during an appropriately set EU timer. GAC, Nyan San, WTF, SI, they all have one. Furthermore if you know another corp on PFC that has an EU division you could get in touch with them and change your timer for the fight to accomodate your players.

This discussion has come about because an indie corp has attacked the NEWM district and has asked for help from other indie corps in the ICN channel. The initial corp does not have a district on fight club and will be attacking via clone pack. The dilemma is that SE7N is part of the ICN and does own a PFC district. Which may make us violate this rule if we offer assistance to the Indie corp. SE7N and NEWM have some history and that may be why this discussion is happening. Not sure...

So, you're saying EoN players (or anyone else) are allowed to fully violate PFC rules? As long as the clones don't originate from PFC? And that a resident corp's members can not only break PFC rules, but that resident won't be putting their own district at risk?

So, Cubs is now endorsing ringing for PFC. Guess EoN players need more ringer money then.

Been trying to track you down for days mate, you're a hard man to find. When can we catch up?

Cubs, can we have back ur PFC district or not?

ok thx :)

@Chicagocubs4ever

We are interested in one of the PFC districts. GAC accepts your terms.

One of our directors will contact you when you get online to complete the transaction.

XMPLR would like to discuss getting a PFC district if there are any available.

Read pg.12 lol So all the QQ wishes of TP disbanding are granted.

Does that mean AE are the sherif now? Probably not right?

Is this community program disbanded?