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Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2013.08.10 01:39:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Our alliance fights as an alliance and practices as an alliance. Is this practice now to be disallowed on Oddelulf? no not necessarily. the entire purpose of really pushing what has been stated is to remove people using ringers... as stated, defining 'ringers' is really necessary to make that end crystal clear my view is no playing with and fighting with members of your alliance I personally do NOT see as 'ringers' using random good players, even pulling people out of local chat (kind of an extreme scenario that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to), hitting up top tier corp A for help on a fight club battle... that's NOT allowed I don't think there is a way to avoid a gray area on that, as the time with altbrard has shown. Oddeluf is intended to make the corps there BETTER and more EXPERIENCED in PC, so that they can gain the confidence to move out into the rest of the galaxy and make their mark on Molden Heath. fighting as an alliance is a proven tactic. Now Burgezz attacks dystopia and dystopia has 5 Team Players.. well that's what is to be avoided Zion attacks IE and zion has 3 players from STB and IE has a couple guys from Ancient Exiles and a Nyain san... totally cool you get the point.
Cubs, could you edit this into the first post of the thread please? That way we have all the rules in the first post which can be easily referenced.
Cheers |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1149
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Posted - 2013.08.10 19:35:00 -
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Done, clarified in rule 1b |
CHICAGOCUB4EVER
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.08.10 19:53:00 -
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Eon will attack everyone of you and rob you blind. TP is EON, EON is TP. Slimey jerks. PROOF:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99559&find=unread |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood
731
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:07:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be
in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)
first off... RULES
1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y * as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as this is not the norm*
1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof' take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation
1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y. playing on behalf of corp x is allowed
2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week
3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)
4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)
5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.
6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)
7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence
7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district *NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.
7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup
8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC
I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit
Want to make it public knowledge that WTF what the French broke this rule to attack are district in melidof. distirct 7
I sent proof to chicago cubs who was also present in the battle that occurred. |
DaddyKillsEmAll
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:08:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be
in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)
first off... RULES
1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y * as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as this is not the norm*
1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof' take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation
1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y. playing on behalf of corp x is allowed
2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week
3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)
4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)
5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.
6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)
7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence
7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district *NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.
7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup
8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC
I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit Want to make it public knowledge that WTF what the French broke this rule to attack are district in melidof. distirct 7 I sent proof to chicago cubs who was also present in the battle that occurred.
lol |
CHICAGOCUB4EVER
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:12:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Ok we have had a few days of input and it seems there is an overwhelming positive response in how planet fight club SHOULD be
in some cases, it is already this, but we want to get more activity here for the corps (low and middle tier) that have the numbers to run matches on their own (yes.. no ringers. the occasional body or 2 is understandable due to availability)
first off... RULES
1) You have to be able to field a team of your corporation. this means 16 players in corp X fighting 16 players in corp Y * as mentioned having a couple non-corp members on occasion due to availability will be acceptable, as long as this is not the norm*
1a) evidence to the contrary is necessary for enforcement. QQ on the forums is not acceptable 'proof' take a pic - upload it - then post with the link and explanation
1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y. playing on behalf of corp x is allowed
2) You have to be ACTIVE on Oddeluf. Activity will be monitored. I'd say starting out clones should be less than full on each district at least twice a week
3) The first PROOF that clones from an Oddeluf district are being used OUTSIDE Oddeluf will be grounds for removal from PFC and awarded to the next corp in line (more info coming)
4) Corp X has a district, you set your timer when it is best for YOUR CORP to PLAY (likely be revisited as we all know timer issues are a problem not easily solved)
5) There is no need to contact corp X before sending an attack, although encouraged.
6) Attacks are 100-150 clones (clone packs can be used and other corps can certainly attack anyone on Oddeluf via this method)
7) Attacks are NOT re-upped. if Corp X has a match on district A, after the match, win or lose, the district is to go 'Online' before another attack may commence
7a) Attacks can be auto re-upped and all(*see note*) districts should be converted to Cargo hubs. 150 clone MAX for any attack.. if you cant kill 51 clones in 2 matches, then honestly, you don't deserve to have a district *NOTE* hubs are not a requirement, but recommended for low tier corps.
7b) the intent is NOT for attacks to have the chance for reup, unless attacking a hub. 150 clone MAX is important. attacking team needs to have 99 clones or less after the first match to avoid auto-reup
8) Being an active, participating member on Oddeluf does NOT exclude you from the rest of PC
I think that covers it but all of the above is subject to modification as the community sees fit Want to make it public knowledge that WTF what the French broke this rule to attack are district in melidof. distirct 7 I sent proof to chicago cubs who was also present in the battle that occurred.
STFU Before we tighten your choke collar and take what little you have left! Stay down dog. DOWN! |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
464
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:28:00 -
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Oddelulf III - District 7 Meildolf V - District 3
I was told to post these pics because What the French used fight club clones to flip our district in Meildof V. I don't any of the politics just following orders. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood
732
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:58:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Oddelulf III - District 7Meildolf V - District 3I was told to post these pics because What the French used fight club clones to flip our district in Meildof V. I don't any of the politics just following orders. Edit: Quickgloves just told me Grupo de Asalto Chacal is doing the same thing
that is still being determined. it looks that way off of district one but unclear so far |
Kain Spero
Spero Escrow Services
1902
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:40:00 -
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Since Teamplayers occupied two districts on PFC without compensating the original owners 150 million ISK I happy to hear that Teamplayers will be handing these districts to new occupiers at no cost. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4033
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:52:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Since Teamplayers occupied two districts on PFC without compensating the original owners 150 million ISK I happy to hear that Teamplayers will be handing these districts to new occupiers at no cost.
lol RND handed over 1 to TP, how can u include them in any compensation when they apart of us? lol dont u think if TP sells it RND could and would get a piece if they wanted? kinda bold to tell our corps what they should do with their own district
Betamax is dead. plz let me know who i write a cheque to cuz betamax as a corp shouldnt of had a district when they are DEAD.
carry on. |
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Kain Spero
Spero Escrow Services
1902
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:55:00 -
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Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
508
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:17:00 -
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So wtf is beating up on stb and now stb is coming back to tp..again that's what I got from this mess |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
751
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Posted - 2013.08.12 03:46:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers.
Hmm
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1725
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Posted - 2013.08.12 03:49:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Since Teamplayers occupied two districts on PFC without compensating the original owners 150 million ISK I happy to hear that Teamplayers will be handing these districts to new occupiers at no cost.
There was no need for compensation for that district. We can launch attacks on any of those districts if we wanted to so there is no need for us to be there. So, since I know TP handles a lot of the land assignments, I handed it over to them to get other corps involved in PFC.
They didn't have to pay for us for it. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.12 05:21:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers.
Actually they were removed due to inactivity. And in the match, 0 players showed up for them thus validating the move. Im in contact with those on the wait list to get them situated.
I have nothing against betamax, and have talked with yokel who did his best to keep things going for a long time. all of their directors as well as their ceo have been mia, which undoubtedly made his life very hard in his task. I have great respect for him and wish him and the others the best
But at this time there are active corps that want to get in and get to matches, thus the move was made.
Everyone appreciates the work you did in the past to get this thing going, but we have taken over the responsibility of maintenance and the corps in contact with interest are working with us to get them going to get the good fights they want |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
592
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Posted - 2013.08.12 05:34:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Yep, since TP didn't pay Betamax for the district it will be great to see that land settled for only the cost of the new occupant purchasing just a clone pack. Anything else would be an obvious scam on the part of Teamplayers. Actually they were removed due to inactivity. And in the match, 0 players showed up for them thus validating the move. Im in contact with those on the wait list to get them situated. I have nothing against betamax, and have talked with yokel who did his best to keep things going for a long time. all of their directors as well as their ceo have been mia, which undoubtedly made his life very hard in his task. I have great respect for him and wish him and the others the best But at this time there are active corps that want to get in and get to matches, thus the move was made. Everyone appreciates the work you did in the past to get this thing going, but we have taken over the responsibility of maintenance and the corps in contact with interest are working with us to get them going to get the good fights they want All I'll say is if you do such moves you should make a post about it - this isn't something that was set up for an individual group to control behind the scenes. You should make your moves more public or it may turn against you someday. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
752
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Posted - 2013.08.12 06:05:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote: All I'll say is if you do such moves you should make a post about it - this isn't something that was set up for an individual group to control behind the scenes. You should make your moves more public or it may turn against you someday.
I agree. We have no problem with transparency as we have nothing to hide. Kain's language hovering near anticipation that we may be engaging in foul play is unnecessary, we should all be on the same team in this endeavor. The rules may have evolved, but do not mistake our beyond conventional methods as motivated by anything but a desire to see PFC flourish.
Also: <3 Sota |
Mike Ruan
Pradox One
30
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Posted - 2013.08.12 06:14:00 -
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Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
754
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Posted - 2013.08.12 07:41:00 -
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Mike Ruan wrote:Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience.
Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting. |
Mike Ruan
Pradox One
31
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Posted - 2013.08.12 10:38:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Mike Ruan wrote:Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience. Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting.
I had nothing to do with that message lol, but our players are very mischievous, according to their story you started it. Something about a couch?
I told them to be civilized, they must be using a Dust-specific dictionary. Our official snack at Pradox One is the blue donut with red sprinkles. It symbolizes Dust. |
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1013
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Posted - 2013.08.12 11:30:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Mike Ruan wrote:Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience. Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting. Id puke in your butt any day bby |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
508
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:13:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Mike Ruan wrote:Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience. Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting. Id puke in your butt any day bby Look it up on google under videos...man challenge |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1178
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:20:00 -
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still trying to get MSF moved in on the Grupo ATF district. timezone restrictions have made it a task in connecting. Lets make this happen!!
Molon Labe has been successfully placed and we are working with a couple more to get them situated! |
Mike Ruan
Pradox One
31
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Posted - 2013.08.12 15:21:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Mike Ruan wrote:Pradox One is on standby to move into PFC. Please contact me in game to get things moving fast.
We are ready to get many fights in-to gain much needed experience. Dude, can I just say I was appalled when I got messages from your players the day after our match about wanting to puke in my butthole? It was disconcerting. Id puke in your butt any day bby Look it up on google under videos...man challenge
NSFW - -- - -- - not safe for work |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1182
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:17:00 -
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Mike hit me up today I believe we are ready to proceed with you guys as well |
Mike Ruan
Pradox One
31
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:06:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Mike hit me up today I believe we are ready to proceed with you guys as well
Roger that. See you later. |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N.
175
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:31:00 -
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It was brought up under one of the Independent Corporations Network (ICN) threads, and I think it's a great question to bring up here. Referring to this rule:
1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y. playing on behalf of corp x is allowed
What do we think about Independents helping other Independents on PFC? |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1188
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:39:00 -
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now I believe you are pushing it. We have agreed in 'alliance' members helping each other in such matches, and its already stated that having '1 or 2' members not officially affiliated with a corp to participate.
obviously 1 or 2 could stretch to 3, perhaps 4 in a rare instance, but if you have to rely on others all the time due to the fact you do not have 16 active members in your corp, then that corp would need to be reevaluated in regard to its membership.
now here's the twist... Say corp A, although not officially in an 'alliance' has close ties with corp B.
corp A has matches, and corp B is always assisting in those matches.
I don't see an issue with this, especially when corp B holds no land anywhere.. so basically the land of Corp A is in reality land for both Corp A AND Corp B
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1188
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:42:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:It was brought up under one of the Independent Corporations Network (ICN) threads, and I think it's a great question to bring up here. Referring to this rule:
1b) the term 'corporation' is synonymous with 'alliance' if corp x has a district and is part of alliance y, members of y. playing on behalf of corp x is allowed
What do we think about Independents helping other Independents on PFC?
the bottom line is the entire premise of PFC is to get good fights, and get practice with your corp to help make you better and more competitive in the PC realm
getting help from others doesn't really accomplish that.
The wording you chose would lead toward the belief that it would be a regular thing, or a conglomeration of 'ringers' (e.i. murder cakes of doom experiment)
the wording chosen would lead to support for that scenario, which is NOT the case. |
kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N.
175
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:52:00 -
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I'm not pushing anything, Cubs. It's a simple question that was brought up on another thread. i'm not buying or selling.
Truth be told, there are ways around everything. Independents could become part of one giant alliance (it's just a little label under your corp name) without it actually being an alliance. Then they would fit the description.
So, that premise led me to ask the simple question to get everyone's thoughts. As you stated, the main purpose of PFC is to have good fights. The secondary purpose is to train corps, in my opinion.
Just playing Devil's advocate, but I think they're valid questions. |
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