O wow - you made one good point. Grats. Now try doing that with your reasoning on why the FG is "Broken" rather then the map design is bad or how you're too awesome to use a sniper.

LOL 'secret buffs'

I'm sure rendering changes affect all weapons the same.

If the towers/buildings are 'unscalable', how did the forge gunner get up there? Couldn't the opposing team employ the same method? Aren't there any counters to this?

But I digress, NERF FORGE GUNS!!!! THEY ARE CLEARLY OP!!!!

Because no amount or type of map design alterations would have any affect on the reasons and ways FG is broken.

And PS what is this about kdr? People care about that? silly straw men

You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.

AYE, DAWG! I'll have you know i'm made out of the finest straw you'll ever see!

It's so nice...and warm...and comfy. You can use me for some really good bedding.

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He is the core gamer, the bastard child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.

Forge would have been nerfed 10x's over by now if it was a light weapon. But not too many spec into heavies vs light/medium, and even fewer spec into a forge vs HMG. Therefore even if it's clearly being abused and OP, the stats won't be large enough for CCP to consider for tweaks.

You really wanted to post that Vid - eh?

You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.

HMGs were a minority weapon but that didn't stop CCP from nerfing them useless at 1.0. For the first several months of this year the FG sucked with the double whammy of bad-game-play and excessive balancing nerfs because during beta it was too good during a time.

Further CCP does monitor these forums. When people ***** they do listen. If you don't think they are aware then file a petition or submit a ticket from the site asking if they are aware of the discussion.

So - what do you guys want? No AoE for forge guns? Make it JUST AV? Maybe lower range so rail tanks can laugh at us more? How about we just get rid of the FG - not like heavies matter anyways.

from infantry.


CCP seems to balance weapons on some statistics that are blind to individual weapons possibly being OP, unless tons of people use them and register kills.



So if there existed a dropsuit and gun which could literally not die, and literally kill anything by looking at it-- YET for whatever reason many people did not flock to it as FOTM -- it would never get a nerf. Because statistically it does not look OP. Just a few people using a totally broken weapon.

Same problem with snipers - where's there QQ thread?

snipers can't kill dropships..
in fact the assault dropship is good at killing them.
its doesn't work the same way with FG.
nice to know you only read the last line and made a post about that.

there is too much stupid in this thread for me to truly fathom.

"OMG BIG GUNZ ON HIGH GROUND!!! WTF?????"


I do believe this is a historical thing as well as an in-game thing.

if you take and hold the high ground, you have the advantage.

If your enemy has the high ground, you remove them.

waah waah heavies on. oh look. proto sniper rifle, meet mister "fat and slow forgegun"

I thought you two would get along well. Remember, the heavy headshot hitbox is at least 50% bigger than an assault's.

But that would be too hard for the pro AR FTW crowd who doesn't want to use this thing we call "tactics" and "adaptation."

If you're getting your ass blown off in a dropsuit fitting, CHANGE YOUR FITTING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Or are you really that stupid and have that much tunnel-vision?

When did I mention highground? Towers are irrelevant its the gun that's a problem.

nice strawman again, though.

So you're saying if you saw a FGer, alone, in a 1v1 on the ground scenario - you would lose because the FG is broken?

Are you sure you're not just terrible?

When did I mention highground? Towers are irrelevant its the gun that's a problem.

nice strawman again, though.

When HMGs were OP, everyone was using them.

It was more than half of every team and they tore things up.
It was obvious. Hardly a minority weapon - at the time.

Did they nerf it too hard? Possibly

So you're saying if you saw another man, alone, in the streets on a rainy night, you'd makeout with him?

Never said that and that's not what I'm saying. Keep trying.

But you just said high grounds isn't the problem - so then it must be ground level.

Care to explain or are you just going to get act more butt hurt at being called bad?

I think you're forgetting the commando suit. They even get an equipment slot. >_>

he's in Hellstorm. Nothing good comes from hellstorm.

Except a free target to punch in the face when you get bored.

your using a very expensive suit that i'll just use starter fit to drain you isk you and take over your spot using a suit 10 times cheaper. but you are stretching it to pull the "sniper" card for.

I'd really like to see a guy kill 30 pluss people with the forgegun, running around hitting bullseye with every shot...

I'd really like to see a guy kill 30 pluss people with the forgegun, running around hitting bullseye with every shot...

maybe I am - but you cant deny commando suit with a sniper and swarms can do exactly what everyone here is crying that the FG does, and the Sniper/Swarms would be better at it - with extra ammo.