The complain train has found a new destination for ceaseless bitching.

CCP should rename Forge Guns to Fofofofofoforgeguns.

Flaylocks got put in their place, now the best way to make protoburgers **** themselves is rooftop mounted Forge Gunners insta-gibbing wallet warriors.

Lemme see if I understand this...

FG hasn't had anything done to it for nearly a year - and is now broken because people have figured out how to climb onto roofs?

Neither is QQ over getting killed by a weapon working at intended.

...you can use this argument to say any weapon is OP and anyone defending it is being 'same old same old'

O wow - you made one good point. Grats. Now try doing that with your reasoning on why the FG is "Broken" rather then the map design is bad or how you're too awesome to use a sniper.

HMGs were a minority weapon but that didn't stop CCP from nerfing them useless at 1.0. For the first several months of this year the FG sucked with the double whammy of bad-game-play and excessive balancing nerfs because during beta it was too good during a time.

Further CCP does monitor these forums. When people ***** they do listen. If you don't think they are aware then file a petition or submit a ticket from the site asking if they are aware of the discussion.

there is too much stupid in this thread for me to truly fathom.

"OMG BIG GUNZ ON HIGH GROUND!!! WTF?????"


I do believe this is a historical thing as well as an in-game thing.

if you take and hold the high ground, you have the advantage.

If your enemy has the high ground, you remove them.

waah waah heavies on. oh look. proto sniper rifle, meet mister "fat and slow forgegun"

I thought you two would get along well. Remember, the heavy headshot hitbox is at least 50% bigger than an assault's.

But that would be too hard for the pro AR FTW crowd who doesn't want to use this thing we call "tactics" and "adaptation."

If you're getting your ass blown off in a dropsuit fitting, CHANGE YOUR FITTING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Or are you really that stupid and have that much tunnel-vision?

So you're saying if you saw a FGer, alone, in a 1v1 on the ground scenario - you would lose because the FG is broken?

Are you sure you're not just terrible?

he's in Hellstorm. Nothing good comes from hellstorm.

Except a free target to punch in the face when you get bored.

I'd really like to see a guy kill 30 pluss people with the forgegun, running around hitting bullseye with every shot...

not really you would have to switch weapons to be AV and you can't OHK infantry and you have less HP with barely any modules and low recharge rate while a FG can do both without switching, more modules and higher HP base without limiting is AV to being effective only on armor. meaning your much more weaker to snipers and limited to SL for AV that you have to switch which is weaker to shields all at a higher ISK cost and much higher SP cost.

you know your post is hard to read what you mean...

Yes because ISk cost has always mean niche protection in Dust.

clearly if you spend more money on it that means you should be invulnerable to anything that costs less than you spent.

Right. you want Dust to become pay-to-win. gotcha.

To the OP: This phenomenon is known as "recall bias." (Look it up)


Also, I'm calling BS on the "this isn't about the FG, it's about the way CCP balances things" backpedal.