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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:50:00 -
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Funny how AR users want everything nerfed, but when the mob brings pitchforks and torches to their doors, they want equality. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.31 15:06:00 -
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Ruthless Lee wrote:Rich o wrote:i normally use shotguns, md, flays and my knives to mess around but when it comes down to make some isk i switch back to my gek...easy kills, the ar-nerfs didn't change much Ha, yeah ... this is pretty much what I do, too. And it cracks me up when all these people rage about 'noob tubes' ... in my experience, the AR is the easiest thing to use in this game. By a mile.
Exile with 0 SP ftw. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.01 10:29:00 -
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@Shion Typhon
Once the rifles get split up, the AR you're used to now is probably going to downgrade to breach AR range. You're just using a placeholder that's meant to be a high DPS, short range weapon. There'll be longer ranged rifles of course, but you'll have to give something up like damage, clip size, or RoF. Giving something up for another may be a foreign concept to you, but other weapon users have been doing it since day 1. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:15:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Honestly making a weapon worthless to force players to use different weapons to increase "diversity" of weapon is just stupid. I could go into how stupid it is but as we saw with yesterday debate.........you have no logical reasoning to stand on. You just want to limit peoples options so that you can see different weapons on the kill feed.
Also I love how everyone complains about the ARs desite the ASCR being better in every way. I drop heavies alot faster with my ASCR than I did with the AR.
The problem is that the full auto AR is better than the breach and burst in all situations. TAC AR is still viable, but only a select few still use it. It needs to be a little less effective in all situations while the burst and breach get buffed so the AR is more diverse in its own class.
Also, I'm glad you enjoy the ScR but on paper it isn't that much better than the AR in all situations. You applied player skill into a niche weapon and can perform that weapons niche more effectively than a weapon that's supposed to be all around good. Player Skill > Weapon's Effectiveness |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:30:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:
You can not control peoples actions I have had some amazing fights with AR versus SR. I choose the SR because it was more original, new, and not so damn OP.
AR vs ScR is pretty well balanced right now, IMO. The basic SCR is perfect for winning the mid range game and spot removal I love popping a logi as they try to provide support for a squad, or taking out that uplink from range. If I'm forced into CQC I can just bring my aSCR and give any AR user a run for their money. Nerfing the AR would make my weapon then seem overpowered. We need the other racial weapons and new heavy weapons before we nerf the crap out of the AR.
Once all the rifles are available, there needs to be a militia version available with each racial variant included on starter fits so that new players aren't funneled into using the Gallente rifle. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:37:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cosgar wrote:
Once all the rifles are available, there needs to be a militia version available with each racial variant included on starter fits so that new players aren't funneled into using the Gallente rifle.
True enough, but this won't make the current AR any less OP.
This is under the assumption that all the racial rifles are rebalanced to have their own advantages, disadvantages and ranges. Hopefully we won't just be getting 2 more rifles that are less effective than the Gallente rifle that's good at everything. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:54:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:D legendary hero wrote:no we need to nerf the AR now, and then when the new rifles come out if the AR is UP buff it.
Thats what CCP does to every other gun. the AR should be no exception. Period TBH I'd love perusing the tears and QQ's of the AR users. If any of you remembered what the forums looked like after the tacAR nerf, you know all hell would break loose.
Kind of like what's going on with the Mass Driver? We finally get the damn thing buffed back up from one of the craziest reasons to nerf something and people cry because they can't learn to run from an area denial weapon. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:58:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cosgar wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:D legendary hero wrote:no we need to nerf the AR now, and then when the new rifles come out if the AR is UP buff it.
Thats what CCP does to every other gun. the AR should be no exception. Period TBH I'd love perusing the tears and QQ's of the AR users. If any of you remembered what the forums looked like after the tacAR nerf, you know all hell would break loose. Kind of like what's going on with the Mass Driver? We finally get the damn thing buffed back up from one of the craziest reasons to nerf something and people cry because they can't learn to run from an area denial weapon. The sad part is that CCP shows a trend of listening to this and dumbing down their game instead of allowing tactics to flourish. To most Dust players, thinking is OP, therefore we should have a game that doesn't require it. This will cause Dust to be just like, but crappier, than the other shooters on the market. Dust, like Eve, should encourage players to think - not keep dumbing down the game for the typical AR run-n-gunner.
Sadly, the same thing goes on in EVE. Remember the crap that went on over drakes and battle ships vs cruisers? |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:05:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:
Well, OK, but it's not to the same degree. Dust is sorting out to be just another run-n-gun lamebrain shooter at this point. I hope they see the light and change course.
I don't know what to think any more. I stick around because I like the depth dust offers but everything past the fitting screen needs some serious work. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.08.15 01:12:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:well, i might as well start speccing into Caldari assault. i already have my GEK. might as well get a dvoule...
stack on some damage mods and its go time.
I already made an alt a few weeks ago. Easy mode like you wouldn't believe- especially with shield regulators. |
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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:41:00 -
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How about we cut back on the e-thuggery. This isn't general discussion... |
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