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J0LLY R0G3R
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.30 19:59:00 -
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PreNerf http://imgur.com/VAQjcOJ
PostNerf http://imgur.com/wKxy6oI
Shrug, "fake logi" now.
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1487
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:01:00 -
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CPU modules.
Ever hear of them?
Get those Armour modules off a shield based suit anyway, use regulators if anything, take advantage of the bonus. |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
101
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:01:00 -
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assault logi now... |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:02:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:CPU modules.
Ever hear of them?
Get those Armour modules off a shield based suit anyway, use regulators if anything, take advantage of the bonus.
I think his point is that he does not care.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3415
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:04:00 -
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You know Caldari are shield tankers right? |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven EoN.
801
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:05:00 -
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Good job, CCP. Now we can't be logos rather than wouldn't be logis. Good to go. I'll just put this over here with the enforcers and laser rifles.... |
Guildo Crow
ZionTCD
67
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:06:00 -
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Ditch an armor plate and throw on a cpu extender. Also, drop your damage mods, your better off with survival ability if your trying to play logistics for your squad.
Use DMG mods only if you plan on playing your logi like an assault. In that case, you don't need your rep tools, a nano hive and possibly a stick will do.
Am I missing something? I don't see the problem here.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
212
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:08:00 -
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Lol @ running Gallente Assualt fit on Caldari Logi..
Do you even DUST Bro? |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
146
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:09:00 -
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regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits.
PS. i thought it was funny and ironic, on his fit he had logi stuff pre nerf and just a nanohive post nerf. hilarious because thats how my proto fits turned out. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1385
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:11:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits.
Yup... I have a logi oriented fit that i'll use for PC but for pubs? lulz, no thanks. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3419
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:12:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
415
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:13:00 -
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dafuq are you doing...
dafuq WERE you doing???? |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
217
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Yup... I have a logi oriented fit that i'll use for PC but for pubs? lulz, no thanks. Logis have always been the most expensive to run (heavys might have had them on cost for a bit,) but its really not feasable to run a protologi in pubs regardless. Congrats caldari, now you know what it REALLY feels like to be a logi. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
852
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:17:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. +1
CCP didn't turn them into assault suits, you simply do not have a logi mindset. Every other suit has to make compromises when it comes to fitting, it is not CCPs fault that equipment is at the bottom of your priority list for what needs to be fitted. Since clearly your choice of fitting indicates your combat efficiency is more important to you than your ability to support teammates, perhaps logistics was the wrong path for you to follow. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1385
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:21:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Logis have always been the most expensive to run (heavys might have had them on cost for a bit,) but its really not feasable to run a protologi in pubs regardless. Congrats caldari, now you know what it REALLY feels like to be a logi.
Whats not feasible about proto logi in pubs?
I was running proto logi with some proto equipment, some basic equipment, basic low modules and basic nades for the last two months? It was glorious. I was also already using a CPU module... its pretty much impossible not to.
I had 600 EHP or so and enough sta to keep up with my assault buddies.
Now? Meh, ishukone gauged nanos and then max out EHP and weaponry... gonna be the true logissault now.
They could have done it in a better way to incentivize cal logis to use equipment... instead they just gave us a choice... EHP or equipment. With pubs being a very self centered playstyle in general... a cal logi who chooses proto equipment over EHP will be a rare breed. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:24:00 -
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Sorry to tell you this, but if your first choice is to give up your equipment to make up the CPU, then you were always a "fake logi". |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
146
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:25:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. Newsflash: the minmatar logi is way better than the caldari now. Not only does it have better sprint and base speed(strafing) it has 40 more CPU, the ability to armor tank as well as shield tank, better bonus, & 4 equipment slots. Newsflash look at the amarr logi now. Newsflash the gallente logi suit has 25% reduction in pg & cpu of equipment, and can armor tank to stack with its +5 armor rep bonus and use its own triage nanohives to have insane survivability. Get the idea? The caldari logi is now the worst logi suit. The ONLY thing is has going for it, is that its shield oriented, because the slot count is irrelevant since you MUST use cpu extenders. And if you want a decent recharge time you MUST use regulators. and doing that means you CANT have real equipment. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3422
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. +1 CCP didn't turn them into assault suits, you simply do not have a logi mindset. Every other suit has to make compromises when it comes to fitting, it is not CCPs fault that equipment is at the bottom of your priority list for what needs to be fitted. Since clearly your choice of fitting indicates your combat efficiency is more important to you than your ability to support teammates, perhaps logistics was the wrong path for you to follow. Couldn't say it any better. For as much trouble as the CaLogi has caused and your blatant disregard for the logistics role by trading equipment for damage mods and plates, you get 0 sympathy for me. That's saying something too because I'm an advocate against nerfs.
P.S. My Minmatar Logi has more HP and has 5m movement and 7.4m sprint speed. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1385
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:27:00 -
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If armor tanking was balanced with shield tanking, gallente would be hands down better than caldari in every way.
Its the only reason caldari are 'somewhat' balanced after this nerf... simply because shield tanking for dropsuits is OP. |
dr dreams
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:30:00 -
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Lol.
OP should've specced into caldari assaults. Then again, he would've cried after that nerf as well. |
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
221
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:32:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. Newsflash: the minmatar logi is way better than the caldari now. Not only does it have better sprint and base speed(strafing) it has 40 more CPU, the ability to armor tank as well as shield tank, better bonus, & 4 equipment slots. Newsflash look at the amarr logi now. Newsflash the gallente logi suit has 25% reduction in pg & cpu of equipment, and can armor tank to stack with its +5 armor rep bonus and use its own triage nanohives to have insane survivability. Get the idea? The caldari logi is now the worst logi suit. The ONLY thing is has going for it, is that its shield oriented, because the slot count is irrelevant since you MUST use cpu extenders. And if you want a decent recharge time you MUST use regulators. and doing that means you CANT have real equipment. My gallente suit MUST use a cpu mod with my bonus.. so what's your point? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3423
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:33:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. Newsflash: the minmatar logi is way better than the caldari now. Not only does it have better sprint and base speed(strafing) it has 40 more CPU, the ability to armor tank as well as shield tank, better bonus, & 4 equipment slots. Newsflash look at the amarr logi now. Newsflash the gallente logi suit has 25% reduction in pg & cpu of equipment, and can armor tank to stack with its +5 armor rep bonus and use its own triage nanohives to have insane survivability. Get the idea? The caldari logi is now the worst logi suit. The ONLY thing is has going for it, is that its shield oriented, because the slot count is irrelevant since you MUST use cpu extenders. And if you want a decent recharge time you MUST use regulators. and doing that means you CANT have real equipment. Make a choice, I do it all the time. I want to use the Freedom MD, but have to settle for an EXO-5 for equipment. I want to have all complex extenders in my highs, but I know that equipment is going to be more beneficial to my squad. Those ferroscale plates? Sorry, equipment... see a trend? Toss an enhancer in the low slot, balance your equipment and be glad that this is all the CaLogi got, you almost got the entire logi class ruined if CCP listened to all those crazy ass demands from ignorant players that thought everything in yellow was OP. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
147
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:36:00 -
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As you can see callogi haters dont listen. The think everyone just ran around with full proto of every module and equipment slot without a single pg or cpu extender. Sigh* these are the ignorant f***s CCP listens to. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
224
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:39:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. Newsflash: the minmatar logi is way better than the caldari now. Not only does it have better sprint and base speed(strafing) it has 40 more CPU, the ability to armor tank as well as shield tank, better bonus, & 4 equipment slots. Newsflash look at the amarr logi now. Newsflash the gallente logi suit has 25% reduction in pg & cpu of equipment, and can armor tank to stack with its +5 armor rep bonus and use its own triage nanohives to have insane survivability. Get the idea? The caldari logi is now the worst logi suit. The ONLY thing is has going for it, is that its shield oriented, because the slot count is irrelevant since you MUST use cpu extenders. And if you want a decent recharge time you MUST use regulators. and doing that means you CANT have real equipment. Make a choice, I do it all the time. I want to use the Freedom MD, but have to settle for an EXO-5 for equipment. I want to have all complex extenders in my highs, but I know that equipment is going to be more beneficial to my squad. Those ferroscale plates? Sorry, equipment... see a trend? Toss an enhancer in the low slot, balance your equipment and be glad that this is all the CaLogi got, you almost got the entire logi class ruined if CCP listened to all those crazy ass demands from ignorant players that thought everything in yellow was OP. *sighs*
You always write what I'm too lazy to..
Edit: lol at cosgar and pothead both using "ignorant." Guess we are all ignorant. Must be ignorance of two different "logi" playstyles |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3426
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:40:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Logis have always been the most expensive to run (heavys might have had them on cost for a bit,) but its really not feasable to run a protologi in pubs regardless. Congrats caldari, now you know what it REALLY feels like to be a logi. Whats not feasible about proto logi in pubs? I was running proto logi with some proto equipment, some basic equipment, basic low modules and basic nades for the last two months? It was glorious. I was also already using a CPU module... its pretty much impossible not to. I had 600 EHP or so and enough sta to keep up with my assault buddies. Now? Meh, ishukone gauged nanos and then max out EHP and weaponry... gonna be the true logissault now. They could have done it in a better way to incentivize cal logis to use equipment... instead they just gave us a choice... EHP or equipment. With pubs being a very self centered playstyle in general... a cal logi who chooses proto equipment over EHP will be a rare breed. You know you don't have to run proto equipment, right? Aside from a proto injector or triage hive for when I'm babysitting heavies I rarely use proto equipment and make out fine. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
810
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. +1 CCP didn't turn them into assault suits, you simply do not have a logi mindset. Every other suit has to make compromises when it comes to fitting, it is not CCPs fault that equipment is at the bottom of your priority list for what needs to be fitted. Since clearly your choice of fitting indicates your combat efficiency is more important to you than your ability to support teammates, perhaps logistics was the wrong path for you to follow. Couldn't say it any better. For as much trouble as the CaLogi has caused and your blatant disregard for the logistics role by trading equipment for damage mods and plates, you get 0 sympathy for me. That's saying something too because I'm an advocate against nerfs. P.S. My Minmatar Logi has more HP and has 5m movement and 7.4m sprint speed.
Minmatar Logi FTW.
**** all the other scrub races. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3426
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:43:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Cosgar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. +1 CCP didn't turn them into assault suits, you simply do not have a logi mindset. Every other suit has to make compromises when it comes to fitting, it is not CCPs fault that equipment is at the bottom of your priority list for what needs to be fitted. Since clearly your choice of fitting indicates your combat efficiency is more important to you than your ability to support teammates, perhaps logistics was the wrong path for you to follow. Couldn't say it any better. For as much trouble as the CaLogi has caused and your blatant disregard for the logistics role by trading equipment for damage mods and plates, you get 0 sympathy for me. That's saying something too because I'm an advocate against nerfs. P.S. My Minmatar Logi has more HP and has 5m movement and 7.4m sprint speed. Minmatar Logi FTW. **** all the other scrub races. Gallente are pretty good too and the Amarr is finally a real logi/assault hybrid. Even the CaLogi wouldn't be half bad if people stopped using it as an assault suit. |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:45:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Yup... I have a logi oriented fit that i'll use for PC but for pubs? lulz, no thanks. Logis have always been the most expensive to run (heavys might have had them on cost for a bit,) but its really not feasable to run a protologi in pubs regardless. Congrats caldari, now you know what it REALLY feels like to be a logi.
b*****, please 750k per tank for public please, don't talk anymore |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
147
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:48:00 -
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My point is this- to make up for the shield delay nerf and have a semi decent recharge time requires regulators. 1mil sp. CPU extenders are mandatory every fitting no matter what to have a semi decent fit. 1.6mil sp. doing both of these lets no room for anything more than a k-2 nanohive. Thats WITH a cpu extender and pg extender. Every other logi suit can fit MUCH more than a callogi. Oh it has a high slot count? NOPE 1 of the lows is ALWAYS taken by a CPU extender. Guess what has 4 lows, and 4 highs w/ higher cpu? the minlogi, that doesnt need a cpu extender, alsos got 4 equipment slots. Guess what has a reduction in pg & cpu by 25% of equipment? The gallente logi. Guess what suit can stack INSANE armor reps with high armor? The amarr logi. Guess which suit is now the worst logi. The caldari. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
505
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:50:00 -
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lol at using TWO damage mods as a logi.
Replace those with shields extenders and use the low slots for shield mods |
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