All my suits? All I have is the calogi. To use another suit, proto is the only way to go for competitive gaming (especially PC), and that is another 2.5 million SP investment. I only have ~800k SP right now, no way am I wasting a months worth of SP grinding for a 5% increase in CPU just so I can run the mediocre suit i was running before.

Also using an alt as a fellow adv assault Minmatar, the K-2's are great for the level they are at, but gauged proto hives are far superior. The difference between carrying 2 vs 4 in a single slot is huge. I run out of ammo all the time running my Min assault suit, and that is after dropping both my K-2's. So many times I wished my fellow blueberries had a hive, which is why I am saving for the gauged hives on my min alt.

Also, unless I waste all my SP on the CPU upgrade, I can't even carry a single proto hive + proto uplink, and that is with 3/4 of my low slots utilizing enhanced CPU/PG upgrades already. And now that I lost almost 100 shields, taking any more shields from my high slots is not even an option.

Welcome to the world of every other logi suit.

BS

There not wasted skill points u should have level 5 already

Words.

I'm actually waiting on people to discover how crazy their new racial bonus is compared to the old one. In b4 regulators are OP.

Ditto.

Try carrying one now.. Only Proto suits can use it at the expense of dropping something-not too sure it's the best bonus, on paper it looks like a 55% decrease in delay with 1x complex reg yet the delay has also been increased across all Logi classes

LMAO @ CCP - Seriously.

I was a Logibro- happened to choose Caldari when I made my character, then I went CalLogi because of the Basic Caldari Assault suit. Went Proto in Logi Fitted with needle, proto hives, proto rep tool- pretty much go negative everygame but at the top of the boards with my warpoints per game!

1.3
I cannot run the Logi loadout because its invalid- So I just stacked 3 dmg mods, and some biotics and NO equipment- the suit is absolutley OP I actuallly went positive and killing guys with 5 shots and absolutley helping no1 but my KDR - THANKS CCP you have made me one of them Frontline CalLogis which is the reason for the nerf. Best nerf yet.

I think the best thing you could have done is kept the CPU and reduced the bonus then made the stacking penalty for DMG mods 100%- this would have been fairer across the board (Cannot wait for the reply on this one)

...I will get the popcorn

Why run logi when our logi abilities are gimped beyond any other logis? I was saying it long before the nerf came out because i did the math. You really think that caldari logis would sacrifice their now mediocre tanking to be garbage logis? BUAHAHA. CCP logic-forum logic.
These guys believe you shouldn't even kill anything as a logi.
These guys believe other equipment besides uplinks are useful in PC.
BUAHAHA. Theres a reason EoN rules molden heath. You HONESTLY think in my PC matches playing for Outer Heaven and Not Guilty i've been going around using needles, rep tools, or even nanohives? WHILE NOT EVEN KILLING PEOPLE? BUAHAHA.
Nubs needa play a PC match.
I'lll give you guys a revelation here.
Heavies get raped in PC.
Scouts get raped in PC.
"True Logis" get raped in PC (and even in pubs).
Grenade spam doesn't work in PC. Real players avoid nades easily.
PC was about Duvolles, fused nades, flaylocks, and uplinks.
Other weapons ocassionally came into play like a thales covering objectives, or mass drivers when giant city standoffs came into play. But the vast majority is all about the AR & uplinks.
Killing people and uplinks for people killed. Thats what the best of the best comes down to.
But hey I don't care, you guys who cry for nerfs on everything have already ruined it. Idgaf, I'll just let the garbage play this garbage game.

Why run logi when our logi abilities are gimped beyond any other logis? I was saying it long before the nerf came out because i did the math. You really think that caldari logis would sacrifice their now mediocre tanking to be garbage logis? BUAHAHA. CCP logic-forum logic.
These guys believe you shouldn't even kill anything as a logi.
These guys believe other equipment besides uplinks are useful in PC.
BUAHAHA. Theres a reason EoN rules molden heath. You HONESTLY think in my PC matches playing for Outer Heaven and Not Guilty i've been going around using needles, rep tools, or even nanohives? WHILE NOT EVEN KILLING PEOPLE? BUAHAHA.
Nubs needa play a PC match.
I'lll give you guys a revelation here.
Heavies get raped in PC.
Scouts get raped in PC.
"True Logis" get raped in PC (and even in pubs).
Grenade spam doesn't work in PC. Real players avoid nades easily.
PC was about Duvolles, fused nades, flaylocks, and uplinks.
Other weapons ocassionally came into play like a thales covering objectives, or mass drivers when giant city standoffs came into play. But the vast majority is all about the AR & uplinks.
Killing people and uplinks for people killed. Thats what the best of the best comes down to.
But hey I don't care, you guys who cry for nerfs on everything have already ruined it. Idgaf, I'll just let the garbage play this garbage game.

Link please? I want incontrovertible proof of a support logi (not an assport logi) stating that logis shouldn't be able to kill.

Proof is in the putting that he's full of ****. If CCP didn't want us to be defend ourselves, they would've limited us to sidearms.

You could've done this with a Gallente assault and had more EHP. What a waste...

Cosgar, let's not go down that road.

I'll fix your statement for you

"If CCP didn't want us to be able to defend ourselves, they wouldn't have given us a weapon slot"

I meant as the initial logistics class when it was introduced, not now. Maybe one day we'll get a medic oriented class restricted to sidearms and repair bonuses, but as a different suit.

I'm just saying I've been running Sidearm Logi for 6+ months now and while I'll admit that I'm no "elite" twitch gamer, I can still get kills.

Sidearms are just as viable as light weapons when used properly.

whut?

not enough CPU/PG to keep up Shields/Armor and Equipment AND grenades ... so grenades had to go

PreNerf
http://imgur.com/VAQjcOJ

PostNerf
http://imgur.com/wKxy6oI

Shrug, "fake logi" now.

What's your fitting? What level is your circuitry and LW operations at?

Fitting - known only to me
Circuitry - I assume you mean Dropsuit Electronics - Lv5 - also Core Upgrades Lv5 and Dropsuit Enginering Lv5
LW Operation Lv3 - I'm a Logi, didn't need to skill up LW as much, but I see if I skill this to 5 my weapons will use 6% less CPU

Of course I, and many others, were combat logis... who is denying that? The only ones in denial are the ones who think a logis main role should be healing and repping.


What about the forge gun? In essence it is primarily a AV weapon, so it should be nerfed to only be a AV weapon.

What about scouts? Scouts are for sniping, therefore they shouldn't be able to use shotguns. OR scouts are for... scouting? Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to snipe or use a shotgun and should be restricted to a sidearm so they can run faster into enemy territory and scout for the rest of us.

What about assaults? They are a front-line combat suit, therefore they should be restricted to front-line weapons and loadout only. So no mass drivers, no snipers, no tac rifles, no plasma cannon, no swarms, and no equipment slots etc etc. They should only be able to use shotguns, assault rifles (except the tac), and assault SCR rifles. And they should be restricted to locus nades only, as they shouldn't be an AV class.

I could go on, but you see how stupid that sounds? Why should each class be locked into a specific role? The fun thing about this game is being able to mix and match to come up with whatever is effective and what we enjoy using most.

As a combat logi I shot people yes, but I also carried around 3 different equipment to better help my team, whether that be several hives, uplinks, remotes for objectives... you name it.