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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
392
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:12:00 -
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I cant imagine nano hives have no role in PC with how effective nade spam is. Active scanners would likely have a sweet role too if they didnt seem bugged. I know for a fact remote explosives have a nice role. So really its just injectors that dont? And even that I find hard to believe considering its not like PC battles never end in clonings.
Repair tool I could see being limited. But even then as a way to get WP for orbitals I cant see how thats true either. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1508
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:14:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing.
Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3439
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Seems like the only CaLogis complaining are the ones who wanted a suit that can do everything... |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
813
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill
So you're saying the next FoTM will be the CalLogi Shotgun Assport?
Remember young padawan, your equipment doesn't disappear when you swap fits. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1008
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:19:00 -
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lol welcome to pain called nerf hammer. us tankers(HAV pilots) have been living. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1509
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:20:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill So you're saying the next FoTM will be the CalLogi Shotgun Assport? Remember young padawan, your equipment doesn't disappear when you swap fits.
Yeah but my repair tool doesnt sit on the ground waiting for me Now dont get me wrong I do agree that the old skill was to much and should have been tweaked and where it sits now at 2% per level seems to be in the sweet spot, but touching the CPU at all let alone setting it drastically lower than all the other suits was a ridiculous idea |
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Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
80
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:21:00 -
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Haha he runs advanced. |
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
1165
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:22:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill Are you running a proto weapon? Are you running damage mods? If so, you're sacrificing the wrong things if you're giving up any equipment. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
813
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill So you're saying the next FoTM will be the CalLogi Shotgun Assport? Remember young padawan, your equipment doesn't disappear when you swap fits. Yeah but my repair tool doesnt sit on the ground waiting for me Now dont get me wrong I do agree that the old skill was to much and should have been tweaked and where it sits now at 2% per level seems to be in the sweet spot, but touching the CPU at all let alone setting it drastically lower than all the other suits was a ridiculous idea
So include it in every fit with a mix of other equipment.
I think it is funny TBH, if all of the CalLogis just go full on slayer with no support at all, it'll just twist CCPs arm into smacking all Logis with the nerfhammer.
I can see it now, the time of "Customization with No Restrictions" is coming to a close all because people abused a single dropsuit. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1509
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:24:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill Are you running a proto weapon? Are you running damage mods? If so, you're sacrificing the wrong things if you're giving up any equipment.
No proto weapon or damage mods, just some extenders, self repairing plates, hive, uplinks, and a rep tool The biggest hog on my suit would be the AV nades and those are only advanced level |
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RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
251
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:28:00 -
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Assuming the OP is using the TAR, 2 Complex Damage mods is actually quite effective as long as you're supporting from the rear. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1008
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:36:00 -
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RedRebelCork wrote:Assuming the OP is using the TAR, 2 Complex Damage mods is actually quite effective as long as you're supporting from the rear. and doesn't get flank or has a flank guard. |
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1953
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:38:00 -
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Do you understand what pre and post mean? Because you swapped those two links the wrong way around. |
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The dark cloud
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
1790
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:38:00 -
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Op is the biggest moron ive ever seen. This is what was wrong in the first place. Having equipment and beeing aible to double tank the suit. Seriously if you want damage mods and tank go gallente. If you want tank and mobility then use caldari suits with shield extenders. Stop demanding both to get easy mode suits. Drop both damage mods for shield extenders, put a CPU upgrade on and eventually keep a plate. Not every 1 can be as awesome as a gallente and have 3 damage mods, armor modules and a freedom massdriver. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1004
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:49:00 -
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I love how these "logi"s complain that they can't be logis anymore. How about losing the CPU guzzling damage mods? Or the high-tier AR? You know? Like all the other logis? |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3443
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:49:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Op is the biggest moron ive ever seen. This is what was wrong in the first place. Having equipment and beeing aible to double tank the suit. Seriously if you want damage mods and tank go gallente. If you want tank and mobility then use caldari suits with shield extenders. Stop demanding both to get easy mode suits. Drop both damage mods for shield extenders, put a CPU upgrade on and eventually keep a plate. Not every 1 can be as awesome as a gallente and have 3 damage mods, armor modules and a freedom massdriver. Or if he wants to run assault, use the advanced basic suit. It's got better base stats and a sidearm lol. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
854
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:01:00 -
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Just downloaded the patch and gave my proto calogi suit a look-over. All my fits where invalid (to be expected), and my main fit had 30 less CPU than was needed. Also my shields dropped by about 90 HP, not too horrible I suppose. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
I only have electronics to level 4, but if I bump it to level 5 by wasting 777k SP and use a complex CPU, I can run the same fits I always have been. I would just swap out the previously used enhanced CPU for the complex.
But I would have to spend almost another million SP to do it. I don't think it is worth it, especially now that my shields got gimped. Looks like my second hive is going bye-bye, so when you turkeys need ammo on the field, don't wonder why there isn't more hives laying around. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1006
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:04:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Just downloaded the patch and gave my proto calogi suit a look-over. All my fits where invalid (to be expected), and my main fit had 30 less CPU than was needed. Also my shields dropped by about 90 HP, not too horrible I suppose. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) I only have electronics to level 4, but if I bump it to level 5 by wasting 777k SP and use a complex CPU, I can run the same fits I always have been. I would just swap out the previously used enhanced CPU for the complex. But I would have to spend almost another million SP to do it. ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) I don't think it is worth it, especially now that my shields got gimped. Looks like my second hive is going bye-bye, so when you turkeys need ammo on the field, don't wonder why there isn't more hives laying around.
More talk of removing logi capibilities instead of combat capibilities. This nerf has shown so many fake logi's true colours. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3443
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:08:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:More talk of removing logi capibilities instead of combat capibilities. This nerf has shown so many fake logi's true colours. QFT
I almost want these jerks to get a respec, but it's not worth the trouble. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
854
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:30:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Just downloaded the patch and gave my proto calogi suit a look-over. All my fits where invalid (to be expected), and my main fit had 30 less CPU than was needed. Also my shields dropped by about 90 HP, not too horrible I suppose. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) I only have electronics to level 4, but if I bump it to level 5 by wasting 777k SP and use a complex CPU, I can run the same fits I always have been. I would just swap out the previously used enhanced CPU for the complex. But I would have to spend almost another million SP to do it. ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) I don't think it is worth it, especially now that my shields got gimped. Looks like my second hive is going bye-bye, so when you turkeys need ammo on the field, don't wonder why there isn't more hives laying around. More talk of removing logi capibilities instead of combat capibilities. This nerf has shown so many fake logi's true colours.
Of course I, and many others, were combat logis... who is denying that? The only ones in denial are the ones who think a logis main role should be healing and repping.
What about the forge gun? In essence it is primarily a AV weapon, so it should be nerfed to only be a AV weapon.
What about scouts? Scouts are for sniping, therefore they shouldn't be able to use shotguns. OR scouts are for... scouting? Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to snipe or use a shotgun and should be restricted to a sidearm so they can run faster into enemy territory and scout for the rest of us.
What about assaults? They are a front-line combat suit, therefore they should be restricted to front-line weapons and loadout only. So no mass drivers, no snipers, no tac rifles, no plasma cannon, no swarms, and no equipment slots etc etc. They should only be able to use shotguns, assault rifles (except the tac), and assault SCR rifles. And they should be restricted to locus nades only, as they shouldn't be an AV class.
I could go on, but you see how stupid that sounds? Why should each class be locked into a specific role? The fun thing about this game is being able to mix and match to come up with whatever is effective and what we enjoy using most.
As a combat logi I shot people yes, but I also carried around 3 different equipment to better help my team, whether that be several hives, uplinks, remotes for objectives... you name it.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3454
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:35:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Just downloaded the patch and gave my proto calogi suit a look-over. All my fits where invalid (to be expected), and my main fit had 30 less CPU than was needed. Also my shields dropped by about 90 HP, not too horrible I suppose. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) I only have electronics to level 4, but if I bump it to level 5 by wasting 777k SP and use a complex CPU, I can run the same fits I always have been. I would just swap out the previously used enhanced CPU for the complex. But I would have to spend almost another million SP to do it. ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) I don't think it is worth it, especially now that my shields got gimped. Looks like my second hive is going bye-bye, so when you turkeys need ammo on the field, don't wonder why there isn't more hives laying around. More talk of removing logi capibilities instead of combat capibilities. This nerf has shown so many fake logi's true colours. Of course I, and many others, were combat logis... who is denying that? The only ones in denial are the ones who think a logis main role should be healing and repping. What about the forge gun? In essence it is primarily a AV weapon, so it should be nerfed to only be a AV weapon. What about scouts? Scouts are for sniping, therefore they shouldn't be able to use shotguns. OR scouts are for... scouting? Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to snipe or use a shotgun and should be restricted to a sidearm so they can run faster into enemy territory and scout for the rest of us. What about assaults? They are a front-line combat suit, therefore they should be restricted to front-line weapons and loadout only. So no mass drivers, no snipers, no tac rifles, no plasma cannon, no swarms, and no equipment slots etc etc. They should only be able to use shotguns, assault rifles (except the tac), and assault SCR rifles. And they should be restricted to locus nades only, as they shouldn't be an AV class. I could go on, but you see how stupid that sounds? Why should each class be locked into a specific role? The fun thing about this game is being able to mix and match to come up with whatever is effective and what we enjoy using most. As a combat logi I shot people yes, but I also carried around 3 different equipment to better help my team, whether that be several hives, uplinks, remotes for objectives... you name it. You can fit your logi any way you want, nobody is telling you not to. But now you have to choose between offense and support instead of being able to do both effectively. Just keep in mind that if you want to be that front line fighter you're going to die a lot more. I tend to run a speedy hacker fitting while laying equipment in strategic positions with the risk dying to 1 v 1 engagements. (no SG yet) It's all about tradeoffs. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1011
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:43:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Just downloaded the patch and gave my proto calogi suit a look-over. All my fits where invalid (to be expected), and my main fit had 30 less CPU than was needed. Also my shields dropped by about 90 HP, not too horrible I suppose. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) I only have electronics to level 4, but if I bump it to level 5 by wasting 777k SP and use a complex CPU, I can run the same fits I always have been. I would just swap out the previously used enhanced CPU for the complex. But I would have to spend almost another million SP to do it. ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png) I don't think it is worth it, especially now that my shields got gimped. Looks like my second hive is going bye-bye, so when you turkeys need ammo on the field, don't wonder why there isn't more hives laying around. More talk of removing logi capibilities instead of combat capibilities. This nerf has shown so many fake logi's true colours. Of course I, and many others, were combat logis... who is denying that? The only ones in denial are the ones who think a logis main role should be healing and repping. What about the forge gun? In essence it is primarily a AV weapon, so it should be nerfed to only be a AV weapon. What about scouts? Scouts are for sniping, therefore they shouldn't be able to use shotguns. OR scouts are for... scouting? Therefore they shouldn't be allowed to snipe or use a shotgun and should be restricted to a sidearm so they can run faster into enemy territory and scout for the rest of us. What about assaults? They are a front-line combat suit, therefore they should be restricted to front-line weapons and loadout only. So no mass drivers, no snipers, no tac rifles, no plasma cannon, no swarms, and no equipment slots etc etc. They should only be able to use shotguns, assault rifles (except the tac), and assault SCR rifles. And they should be restricted to locus nades only, as they shouldn't be an AV class. I could go on, but you see how stupid that sounds? Why should each class be locked into a specific role? The fun thing about this game is being able to mix and match to come up with whatever is effective and what we enjoy using most. As a combat logi I shot people yes, but I also carried around 3 different equipment to better help my team, whether that be several hives, uplinks, remotes for objectives... you name it.
"But Miss Miss look! That boy did it too".
You weren't a combat logi. You were an assault who deliberately picked the OP suit, then realised you could fit some logi gear and buff your WP earnings. If you were really a combat logi, you'd be lowering your firepower just as much as your support abilities. I have no problem utilising the bonuses for assault, my own Minny logi is hardly orthodox. Just don't try claiming that you were a real logi, it's fooling nobody. |
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
21
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:45:00 -
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Too lazy to read all 5 pages. I feel the OP is QQing about the CalLogi getting the nerf it deserved and throwing a tantrum. HTFU? |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
2738
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:49:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Good job, CCP. Now we can't be logos rather than wouldn't be logis. Good to go. I'll just put this over here with the enforcers and laser rifles.... You did notice how he only doesn't have the space because his fit is trash, right? |
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SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:12:00 -
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My Proto Cal Logi came out OK after the nerf ... Sure I lost 77 Shields and 40 Armor and can't carry grenades anymore, but the suit is still adequately protected, and functional as a Logi. |
![Paran Tadec Paran Tadec](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:24:00 -
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hey crybaby, lern to fit a logi. |
![Iron Wolf Saber Iron Wolf Saber](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:26:00 -
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o-O
Why is his fit all over the place? |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:You know Caldari are shield tankers right?
He was making use of its high slots by putting damage mods in. The drawback to damage mods is that you have less shields then people who use shield mods. To compensate for that he put armor plates on. Simple as that. This isn't the best suit for what hes trying to do, but fundamentally it still works. |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:37:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:hey crybaby, lern to fit a logi.
I think the whole point of this post is that pre nerf he didn't fit it as a logi, and post nerf he didn't either. If you notice, the pre nerf photo is invalid because the equipment on it rendered it unable to fit everything. Post nerf the only thing that changed was total shields and he didn't have equipment anymore. So basically fitting as an assault logi. However he clearly doesn't understand that the assault variant of this race is now better at doing that then the suit hes using soooo...... yeah. He might be a bit confused, but I don't think he's crying over it. |
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Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.31 00:44:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sounds to me more like you are happy being a logi so long as it doesn't impede on your assault capabilities. The Caldari logi can still be a great logi, it just can't while simultaneously being a great assault.
And yes, if you want to overcome the inherent combat weaknesses of the logi then you should skill into an Assault suit, that is why they are there. I was able to live with the slower move speed, lack of sidearm, and lower base stats. But a further reduction in assault capabilities renders the point moot... no reason to bother with cal logi anymore. They are perfectly fine in pubs im sure... since there is little organization and teamwork, but the game mode I really cared about balance was PC and considering skilled assaults were already rolling over logis in that game mode... I can only imagine how it'll be now if I sacrificed more assault potential for 'true logistics'. I will most likely be speccing into assault when the next respec comes around, depends on the 1.4 bonuses and any further tweaks to the suits. Maybe assaults are rolling over logis because assaults are the designed killers while logis are the designed support? Logis still have a purpose, it is just not on the front lines killing assault players. Not in PC they don't. You will want 1 maybe 2 logis as uplink mules and thats it. No other equipment has any place in PC.
Oh really? No other equipment counts in PC? Tell that to heavy buddies with HMGs being repped by a proto repair tool. Also tell that to the Logi who hands out ammo and scans the entire enemy team during a standoff. With my scanner we'll always know where you team is. |
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