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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.30 20:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Cosgar wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit. hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi. you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore. ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented. yep. CCP turned them into assault suits. Welcome to the world of every other logi suit. +1 CCP didn't turn them into assault suits, you simply do not have a logi mindset. Every other suit has to make compromises when it comes to fitting, it is not CCPs fault that equipment is at the bottom of your priority list for what needs to be fitted. Since clearly your choice of fitting indicates your combat efficiency is more important to you than your ability to support teammates, perhaps logistics was the wrong path for you to follow. Couldn't say it any better. For as much trouble as the CaLogi has caused and your blatant disregard for the logistics role by trading equipment for damage mods and plates, you get 0 sympathy for me. That's saying something too because I'm an advocate against nerfs. P.S. My Minmatar Logi has more HP and has 5m movement and 7.4m sprint speed.
Minmatar Logi FTW.
**** all the other scrub races. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:03:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Sounds to me more like you are happy being a logi so long as it doesn't impede on your assault capabilities. The Caldari logi can still be a great logi, it just can't while simultaneously being a great assault.
And yes, if you want to overcome the inherent combat weaknesses of the logi then you should skill into an Assault suit, that is why they are there. I was able to live with the slower move speed, lack of sidearm, and lower base stats. But a further reduction in assault capabilities renders the point moot... no reason to bother with cal logi anymore. They are perfectly fine in pubs im sure... since there is little organization and teamwork, but the game mode I really cared about balance was PC and considering skilled assaults were already rolling over logis in that game mode... I can only imagine how it'll be now if I sacrificed more assault potential for 'true logistics'. I will most likely be speccing into assault when the next respec comes around, depends on the 1.4 bonuses and any further tweaks to the suits. Maybe assaults are rolling over logis because assaults are the designed killers while logis are the designed support? Logis still have a purpose, it is just not on the front lines killing assault players. Not in PC they don't. You will want 1 maybe 2 logis as uplink mules and thats it. No other equipment has any place in PC.
All Hail the great and mighty assport farmer ZDub 303 and heed his words.
UPLINKS ARE THE ONLY EQUIPMENT THAT HAS A PLACE IN PC! SPREAD THIS GOSPEL FAR AND WIDE TO THE FOUR WINDS!
/sarcasm
You guys sure are full of yourselves aren't you? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:11:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice
Do not give up on being a Logi.
Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill
So you're saying the next FoTM will be the CalLogi Shotgun Assport?
Remember young padawan, your equipment doesn't disappear when you swap fits. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.30 22:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Same boat as you now, not enough CPU to have a functional logi suit and sacrificing survivability to carry about gear for a bunch of ungrateful jackasses that whine and cry but still expect us to drop hives and uplinks for them is an idiotic idea so anyone fully specced into the suit is almost forced into being a pseudo assault now
Personally I just deleted my logi fittings, Ive got advanced level assault suits so Im rolling storm trooper now and waiting for that to get nerfed since the EVE players cant handle caldari having anything nice Do not give up on being a Logi. Simply find the path of the NinjaLogi. You'll help your team without them even realizing. Not if I cant fit the gear I need to support them I do admit that my CPU and PG skills arent maxed yet though so I may come back to it later on but honestly I expect to get hit with the nerf hammer again as most of the people that skilled it to max switch to full on slayer roles without the pretense of support Done right the logi suit can get an impressive recharge rate on its shields which is going to support a hit and run assault style rather than the damage sponge style it had from the old skill So you're saying the next FoTM will be the CalLogi Shotgun Assport? Remember young padawan, your equipment doesn't disappear when you swap fits. Yeah but my repair tool doesnt sit on the ground waiting for me Now dont get me wrong I do agree that the old skill was to much and should have been tweaked and where it sits now at 2% per level seems to be in the sweet spot, but touching the CPU at all let alone setting it drastically lower than all the other suits was a ridiculous idea
So include it in every fit with a mix of other equipment.
I think it is funny TBH, if all of the CalLogis just go full on slayer with no support at all, it'll just twist CCPs arm into smacking all Logis with the nerfhammer.
I can see it now, the time of "Customization with No Restrictions" is coming to a close all because people abused a single dropsuit. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.31 14:02:00 -
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Are these scrubs still crying?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.31 15:24:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Why run logi when our logi abilities are gimped beyond any other logis? I was saying it long before the nerf came out because i did the math. You really think that caldari logis would sacrifice their now mediocre tanking to be garbage logis? BUAHAHA. CCP logic-forum logic. These guys believe you shouldn't even kill anything as a logi. These guys believe other equipment besides uplinks are useful in PC. BUAHAHA. Theres a reason EoN rules molden heath. You HONESTLY think in my PC matches playing for Outer Heaven and Not Guilty i've been going around using needles, rep tools, or even nanohives? WHILE NOT EVEN KILLING PEOPLE? BUAHAHA. Nubs needa play a PC match. I'lll give you guys a revelation here. Heavies get raped in PC. Scouts get raped in PC. "True Logis" get raped in PC (and even in pubs). Grenade spam doesn't work in PC. Real players avoid nades easily. PC was about Duvolles, fused nades, flaylocks, and uplinks. Other weapons ocassionally came into play like a thales covering objectives, or mass drivers when giant city standoffs came into play. But the vast majority is all about the AR & uplinks. Killing people and uplinks for people killed. Thats what the best of the best comes down to. But hey I don't care, you guys who cry for nerfs on everything have already ruined it. Idgaf, I'll just let the garbage play this garbage game.
Link please? I want incontrovertible proof of a support logi (not an assport logi) stating that logis shouldn't be able to kill. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.31 15:29:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Link please? I want incontrovertible proof of a support logi (not an assport logi) stating that logis shouldn't be able to kill. Proof is in the putting that he's full of ****. If CCP didn't want us to be defend ourselves, they would've limited us to sidearms. Cosgar, let's not go down that road.
I'll fix your statement for you
"If CCP didn't want us to be able to defend ourselves, they wouldn't have given us a weapon slot" |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.31 15:41:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Cosgar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Link please? I want incontrovertible proof of a support logi (not an assport logi) stating that logis shouldn't be able to kill. Proof is in the putting that he's full of ****. If CCP didn't want us to be defend ourselves, they would've limited us to sidearms. Cosgar, let's not go down that road. I'll fix your statement for you "If CCP didn't want us to be able to defend ourselves, they wouldn't have given us a weapon slot" I meant as the initial logistics class when it was introduced, not now. Maybe one day we'll get a medic oriented class restricted to sidearms and repair bonuses, but as a different suit.
I'm just saying I've been running Sidearm Logi for 6+ months now and while I'll admit that I'm no "elite" twitch gamer, I can still get kills.
Sidearms are just as viable as light weapons when used properly. |
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