DUST Search - Respec Petition

Humble Seeker wrote:

Soldiersaint wrote:

Humble Seeker wrote:

Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP.

I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something?

Ive been saying this since the Start of dust itself. People just dont want others to have any chance. I screwed up TWICE..i learned my lesson.

Aye, gotcha.

It seems funny to me how the "HTFU" mentality has been intended as a draw for customers by CCP, only to have it partially backfire in the instance of, say, DUST. In EVE, if you make some silly noob mistakes, you can earn the ISK back. You don't have to worry about the mistake influencing your ability to pull up your bootstraps and have another go.

But with DUST, if you mess up, SP-wise, your stuck with sub-optimal gear while all the vets taunt you as they send you to the clone farms time and time again with their perma-god weapon, the proto assault rifle.

I'm all for at least one free respec. After that, yeah, you should have to pay for it in some way, either AUR or SP.

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Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 524	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:42:00 - [721] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: NNNNGGG I need a respec on my mass driver alt. Why didn't you all tell me I should have specced MIN assault instead of CAL assault? I will need many PG/CPU upgrades but will eventually have 3x complex dmg mod, 2x enhanced kin cat on an advanced minmatar assault due to the high pg/cpu VS caldari ADV assault. oh and it moves faster :) Um i had no idea ? Dude im going to max out the minnie logi if we do get a respec. the extra tool slots is a God send. Also im probably going to skill into the faction ar with the highest range. long range support logi for the win?
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 46	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:43:00 - [722] - Quote Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP. I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something? "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 524	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:44:00 - [723] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP. I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something? Ive been saying this since the Start of dust itself. People just dont want others to have any chance. I screwed up TWICE..i learned my lesson.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 670	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:48:00 - [724] - Quote Unless you run omegas 24/7, this game's current skill tree will take years to complete, and it's not even done yet. Which is why we need respecs Signed There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy You'll still me useful in my eyes
Yelhsa Jin-Mao GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 72	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:49:00 - [725] - Quote Signed I can has ISK
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 47	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:52:00 - [726] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Humble Seeker wrote: Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP. I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something? Ive been saying this since the Start of dust itself. People just dont want others to have any chance. I screwed up TWICE..i learned my lesson. Aye, gotcha. It seems funny to me how the "HTFU" mentality has been intended as a draw for customers by CCP, only to have it partially backfire in the instance of, say, DUST. In EVE, if you make some silly noob mistakes, you can earn the ISK back. You don't have to worry about the mistake influencing your ability to pull up your bootstraps and have another go. But with DUST, if you mess up, SP-wise, your stuck with sub-optimal gear while all the vets taunt you as they send you to the clone farms time and time again with their perma-god weapon, the proto assault rifle. I'm all for at least one free respec. After that, yeah, you should have to pay for it in some way, either AUR or SP. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 524	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:54:00 - [727] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Humble Seeker wrote: Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP. I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something? Ive been saying this since the Start of dust itself. People just dont want others to have any chance. I screwed up TWICE..i learned my lesson. Aye, gotcha. It seems funny to me how the "HTFU" mentality has been intended as a draw for customers by CCP, only to have it partially backfire in the instance of, say, DUST. In EVE, if you make some silly noob mistakes, you can earn the ISK back. You don't have to worry about the mistake influencing your ability to pull up your bootstraps and have another go. But with DUST, if you mess up, SP-wise, your stuck with sub-optimal gear while all the vets taunt you as they send you to the clone farms time and time again with their perma-god weapon, the proto assault rifle. I'm all for at least one free respec. After that, yeah, you should have to pay for it in some way, either AUR or SP. Im pretty sure we are going to have to sacrifice sp
pamuku420tyme Murder INK The Umbra Combine 37	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:57:00 - [728] - Quote DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote: **** off. i find it funny that last time a respec went through, SOOOO many people whined and said no to respec. But a VAST majority of them still filed for respec... moral of the story, stop being a hypocritical cry baby b!tch and just going on the forums just to say no to what ever is posted... I am very glad that i dont have to meet any of you in real life.... you all who complain in game must have an interesting life... complaing about that sun being to bright so you want it nerfed, or the rain to wet.... r3tards
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 526	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:00:00 - [729] - Quote pamuku420tyme wrote: DRDEEZE TWO POINTO wrote: **** off. i find it funny that last time a respec went through, SOOOO many people whined and said no to respec. But a VAST majority of them still filed for respec... moral of the story, stop being a hypocritical cry baby b!tch and just going on the forums just to say no to what ever is posted... I am very glad that i dont have to meet any of you in real life.... you all who complain in game must have an interesting life... complaing about that sun being to bright so you want it nerfed, or the rain to wet.... r3tards To be honest i love a dark stormy cloudy day. I can stand in the rain all day. Go away sun you can bother me some other day
JcSevi Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:08:00 - [730] - Quote +1 Respec please.

Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 526	Posted - 2013.11.06 20:33:00 - [731] - Quote JcSevi wrote: +1 Respec please. Ah the respec army continues to grow stronger and stronger with every sign. WE ARE COMING FOR YOU CCP LOGIBRO I SHALL HAVE MY REVENGE ON YOUR BAN BATTON......Oh shoot what if he sees this .
RA Drahcir Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 274	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:36:00 - [732] - Quote Hi
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 526	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:38:00 - [733] - Quote RA Drahcir wrote: Hi Hello?
John Dozzzer Ancient Exiles 6	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:46:00 - [734] - Quote Herro
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 47	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:31:00 - [735] - Quote Bumping with hope. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 138	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:45:00 - [736] - Quote It needs to happen if CCP wants people to stay and play. DUST514 Love The Dream Hate The Product Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 853	Posted - 2013.11.07 01:04:00 - [737] - Quote signed. I want out of heavies and the HMG. Do not eat the yellow snow
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2270	Posted - 2013.11.07 01:24:00 - [738] - Quote calvin b wrote: signed. I want out of heavies and the HMG. Another fallen heavy/scout going FTW in med suits? welcome. I'll give you a tour: We have Assault Logis, Tank logis,Sniper Logis,AV logis,Scout Logis, Do it all Logis,True logis, all with 900+ HP , Active scanners, a lot of regen and an army of logibros protecting your suit so it doesnt get nerfed. You are welcome. BTW , i want a respec, i dont need my scout stuff anymore... u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3936	Posted - 2013.11.07 01:27:00 - [739] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: calvin b wrote: signed. I want out of heavies and the HMG. Another fallen heavy/scout going FTW in med suits? welcome. I'll give you a tour: We have Assault Logis, Tank logis,Sniper Logis,AV logis,Scout Logis, Do it all Logis,True logis, all with 900+ HP , Active scanners, a lot of regen and an army of logibros protecting your suit so it doesnt get nerfed. You are welcome. BTW , i want a respec, i dont need my scout stuff anymore... So do I. Don't need my assault stuff anymore. HOPE RENEWED, CAST DOWN THE OLD REGIME OF SP! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 880	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:25:00 - [740] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Rasatsu wrote: This is a bad thread and the OP should be ashamed of him/herself. Respecs are the death of MMOs. Lets see you say that when they nerf your ar to oblivion. You will be screaming for a respec. And when that time comes you will sign I have 8-9 million SP in HAVs, and never asked for them back despite not having driven one in months. Why? Because I'm a long time EVE player. The wheel turns, what was good becomes good again, what was bad becomes bad again.

MCEINSTEIN08 ADAMANTIUM CORE 53	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:31:00 - [741] - Quote Signed.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 750	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:15:00 - [742] - Quote CCP you wouldn't know what makes people wanna play an fps if it kicked you square in the face. Give the bloody respect as a permanent option. That way people won't get bored as fk doing the same monotonous sht month after month after month. And don't dare argue, with a pathetic 3 to 4 k people left playing. Well for a few months until we all have our 4's.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 339	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:18:00 - [743] - Quote Respec in 1.7 or 2.0 please. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 144	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:20:00 - [744] - Quote Vethosis wrote: I heard some people wanted a petition, so here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB26grrZS2A lowratehitman approves of respeccing in some parts, please watch the video it is only 5 minutes. snipped list of names - CCP Eterne straight up.... you need to post a small summary of the video. people need OBVIOUS information..... but again +1 FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 751	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:20:00 - [745] - Quote ICECREAMK1NG wrote: CCP you wouldn't know what makes people wanna play an fps if it kicked you square in the face. Give the bloody respect as a permanent option. That way people won't get bored as fk doing the same monotonous sht month after month after month. And don't dare argue, with a pathetic 3 to 4 k people left playing. Well for a few months until we all have our 4's. NOT soon. now.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 144	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:21:00 - [746] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Respec in 1.7 or 2.0 please. how would you know about anything past 1.7? FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 339	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:34:00 - [747] - Quote fawkuima juggalo wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Respec in 1.7 or 2.0 please. how would you know about anything past 1.7? Just guessing that 2.0 will be a new expansion with significant content (FW 2.0, PC 2.0 like presented in EVE Vegas). +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1147	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:02:00 - [748] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Humble Seeker wrote: Signed, we non-FOTM players just want the ability to reorganize some of our SP. I understand that decisions matter, but what of the people who made mistakes early on? Are you opponents of respecs afraid that we will be able to match your proto gear or something? Ive been saying this since the Start of dust itself. People just dont want others to have any chance. I screwed up TWICE..i learned my lesson. Aye, gotcha. It seems funny to me how the "HTFU" mentality has been intended as a draw for customers by CCP, only to have it partially backfire in the instance of, say, DUST. In EVE, if you make some silly noob mistakes, you can earn the ISK back. You don't have to worry about the mistake influencing your ability to pull up your bootstraps and have another go. But with DUST, if you mess up, SP-wise, your stuck with sub-optimal gear while all the vets taunt you as they send you to the clone farms time and time again with their perma-god weapon, the proto assault rifle. I'm all for at least one free respec. After that, yeah, you should have to pay for it in some way, either AUR or SP. How does screwing up you skill set in EVE differ in any way than in DUST? Refunding SP will not help player numbers, retention or any other perceived problems that the game has. Content and options are the only thing that can fix our problems. Refunded SP isn't the answer. Make the game fun, give us places to go and things to do and no one will ask for their SP back. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1861	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:10:00 - [749] - Quote Cmon, we're getting a free booster, we have all this extra SP, and you guys still want a respec? Let it go. I wanted a respec until I decided to try out scrambler pistols. Just do something new. IWS has it right in this regard; his omni-soldier build means he can try something new every week. Respecs should only come if there is massive change. Uprising needed one. We don't need one now. I'd say the only real necessity would come from racial dropsuits, BUT remember that there is the possibility of pirate faction dropsuits, which require two dropsuit skills anyway. Or if they totally change the skill system again. But I really doubt it. I'll admit the skill system ain't perfect, but I realise it probably doesn't need drastic change either. And just a note: I've never played with boosters. My unallocated SP usually never goes above 500k. I have prototype gear but I'm not satisfied. I'd love to try something new with a respec, but the whole point of progression crumbles. The whole reason New Eden keeps you coming back, the whole reason you keep complaining even as you play, the whole reason two years down the track the game will be twice as good if not better, is because of this progression. It's because you can't undo your mistakes like the stat reallocations that almost every other MMORPG allows you to purchase. So deal with it. In the long-term we will lose more players than we keep if people keep getting respecs. The game will lose its purpose. "..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed." -Veigar
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 527	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:51:00 - [750] - Quote People are leaving because they are tired of skilling into something and then finding out it is useless. Or they made foolish choices like I did. I spent over a year working on my tree and had i known what i know now i would have never ever used my sp the way i did. The grind on this game to get other skills is just to much. people dont have time for that. And if they do its probably because they have a very carefree life. I cant even log on for the sp event. Yea so much for extra sp.



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