It's a good thing CCP doesn't do game design by petition.

Listen respecs will keep more people on the game. only a handful of people will leave if they add respecs. why don't all you haters go cry on a nerf thread or something.

No real reason not to have a respec option.

There's plenty of reason why there shouldn't be a respec option.

That's why there are people against having it.

And that's why the people who are against having it are also against the fact that some of those people's names are on this petition as if they signed it.

New Eden is a good reason why not.

Choices having consequences for once in a console game is a good reason why not.

There was plenty of prior warning that things would change and you aren't getting a respec is a good reason why not.

And while SP doesn't mean you're more (or less) skilled than someone else, intelligent use of SP is a skill in and of itself. Just because you suck at skiling your character, doesn't mean you deserve a free do-over every time you realise you screwed up.

There are times where a PARTIAL respec makes sense - when CCP introduce new racial variants of certain equipment, I hope the let us re-allocate the relevant SP into the new variant. I don't really want to be stuck with Gallente AR Operation when I'm using a Rail Rifle. I don't particularly mind, but it would be nice to swap those points over if I can. If there's a Caldari Shotgun equivalent at some point, I'll want to transfer my Gallente Shotgun SP into that as well.

You say you want the freedom to use your SP how you want. You already have that. You can choose not to spend it. You can choose to spend it sensibly. You can choose to spend it poorly. But once you've spent your SP, it's spent and you have the skills you chose. You're not just asking for the freedom to use your SP how you want. You're asking for the ability to undo things you chose to do because you no longer like your decision.

But a full respec is something that we have been assured time and again WILL NOT BE HAPPENING, and that we have plenty of GOOD reasons not to want.

No matter how many times you say that's "dumb", the reasons are still there, sitll valid, and even if they weren't, people have a right to their own opinions, and refusing to admit that is inarguably pig-headed and deliberately offensive.

EDIT: Fixed formatting.

''. You're asking for the ability to undo things you chose to do because you no longer like your decision.''

THIS is why a respec petition is actually a sensible idea. At least one FULL respec once every dropsuit variant and weapon has been released.
WHY? well, its not that i NO LONGER LIKE MY DECISION, more like:

-CCP does not give you ANY help at all to make a solid decision; in game descriptions are OFF , promising things that they arent.(like BREACH FORGE GUN: ''cannot move while charging''.WELL NOBODY told me i couldnt move AFTER the shot was charged.)
Militia weapons are the ones that should help you do this decision,but there are a lot of weapons that dont have a MLT version so you can try it out, making the only effective way of testing a weapon is SPENDING SP.
So the other viable option is to spend a good 2-3 hours to create a new character and buy and ''try out'' a specific item, in a not to optimal enviroment nor setting. So HOW EXACTLY im going to do my ''important and permanent'' decision based on what I IMAGINE they are based on the description?
My time is more important than a game. And same is for a lot of other people.

-CCP rebalance issues: I DO NOT abuse Cal LOGI, i never used a Flaylock pistol, not a TAC AR not even LLAV, just for the record. BUT CCP DOES change stuff ridiculously often making your ''highly important and Permanent decisions'' pointless. I might spend a month thinking, and decide: Ok i want to use Minmatar Logi.Spend 5+ mill in doing a loadout just for it, and next month CCP might nerf it to the ground.
Sorry , but my time is a LOT more important than EVE fanboys: ''no respecs on eve, no respecs on dust'' stupid a** motto....

-'' You can choose not to spend it''.This is , by far the stupidest thing you've said in that post. With all due respect, why would someone play a game with RPG elements if you are not going to PROGRESS?

-''But a full respec is something that we have been assured time and again WILL NOT BE HAPPENING, and that we have plenty of GOOD reasons not to want.''
Actually the reasons given are nothing but bulltalk. They are abstract excuses inspired by a decade old game that did good because the lack of competition at the time.

You have no idea how many people will leave this game if respecs are introduced. It's not going to happen - I wish you people would just realise that and give this nonsense up. CCP has had this rubbish from Eve players too for years and years - you think you're going to change their minds with this largely falsified and invalid petition? You're wasting your breathe.

Further to the very good and valid points that Garrett makes above, respecs go against one of the very few things that make this game unique. By allowing your decisions to be reset at will, this game becomes just another lobby shooter, not much different to COD or BF or one of the other dozens of FPS games already well established in the market. Lose the persistence of your choices and that's a key unique selling point gone and everyone might as well be playing another game that's already doing everything else a lot better.

Whatever shortsighted players this game might lose because they don't like being unable to change their choices at the drop of a hat (these people will probably not last long anyway), it will lose a lot more and gain a lot less if it loses one of its few unique selling points.

edit - also note that I am not against some limited form of reallocation for new racial variants.

Off the ban, all names added.

You still didn't address the series of obvious/known alts used to add multiple signatures, and still haven't done anything about multiple signatures from players who have specifically declared their disapproval for the thread.

If you want to you can.

SIGNED..........

I've listened to all the BS about no respecs on this thread, mostly from eve neckbeards I might add.

'' you should live with your choices''

''accept the consequences''

'' it's new eden''

etc.etc.

STFU, it's a friggin video game, a boring, tedious, dull grind of a game, but it's still a friggin VIDEO GAME.

I swear you tards think new eden is real. lmfao.

You should realise that neither Garrett nor myself are Eve players.

The only reasons people ever give for wanting respecs are actually nothing to do with respecs and all the problems that people continue to list would all be better served by fixing the issues themselves.

Permanence is a central feature of this game - let's fix the problems with the right fixes and respecs will become entirely unnecessary.

That's the friggin problem pal, until this broke a$$ game is fixed, if ever.......... Respecs are necessary.

Thanks for pointing that out and agreeing.

Yes, the game has many problems - respecs will not fix any of them.

You really think it's ok to make people wait months to get something in this game. then come along, change the rules of the game, totally change what you've been speccing into for months, and, or ruin it to uselessness, then say '' live with your choices''

edit - also, when was the last time anything was 'nerfed to uselessness'?

Shotguns were nerfed when 1.4 went live.

That got fixed today.

48 HOURS LATER.

How many months is that? Oh yea, I remember now... NOT EVEN ONE.

That is one of the problems that needs addressing (and is happening) - CCP have committed to making smaller adjustments in terms of balancing, so that people's entire game isn't ruined when they change things. More work needs to be done in a lot of areas, so less changes are needed and then less people will cry for respecs.

Again - respecs will not fix the problems you have with this game; they are only a band-aid so you can forget the problems for a little while.

edit - also, when was the last time anything was 'nerfed to uselessness'?

okay..... if you think so... its 1.4 and they are still having problems with getting the shotgun to register (months, over a year if you include closed beta- should have been fixed by latest 1.0).

I like dust, but i dont have blinkers on