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KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:56:00 -
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I only approve a respec when all suits are out. And after that, your stuck.
There by, since not all suits are up. No respecs.
(and im stuck with minatar scout and cal logi LOL)
BUT if you are giving a respec, in other to do it niceley, EVERYBODY should have the option....IF the respec gets done.... |
KING CHECKMATE
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.08.04 01:18:00 -
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MEH +1
Signed.
I dont even care anymore LOL. I just want my 11mil SP to spec it ALL into 1 weapon, 1 suit, etcetc... Im tired of being jack of all trades, master of none... |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:30:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:All I see is a bunch of scrubs who cant live with their poor desision making . That or they specked into op fotm wepons and suits so tottaly no respecs.and no respect for anyone who signs this.
Actually no, i spec'd into Scout and i've always been a scout/forge gunner.
I want a repec cuz my bro played in my account and blew about 2-3 mil SP in leveling up every single weapon there is XD
So i have level 3 and4 of everything LOL. And i only us SMG's and Forgeguns XD
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Posted - 2013.09.02 22:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:New Eden is a good reason why not.
Choices having consequences for once in a console game is a good reason why not.
There was plenty of prior warning that things would change and you aren't getting a respec is a good reason why not.
And while SP doesn't mean you're more (or less) skilled than someone else, intelligent use of SP is a skill in and of itself. Just because you suck at skiling your character, doesn't mean you deserve a free do-over every time you realise you screwed up.
There are times where a PARTIAL respec makes sense - when CCP introduce new racial variants of certain equipment, I hope the let us re-allocate the relevant SP into the new variant. I don't really want to be stuck with Gallente AR Operation when I'm using a Rail Rifle. I don't particularly mind, but it would be nice to swap those points over if I can. If there's a Caldari Shotgun equivalent at some point, I'll want to transfer my Gallente Shotgun SP into that as well.
You say you want the freedom to use your SP how you want. You already have that. You can choose not to spend it. You can choose to spend it sensibly. You can choose to spend it poorly. But once you've spent your SP, it's spent and you have the skills you chose. You're not just asking for the freedom to use your SP how you want. You're asking for the ability to undo things you chose to do because you no longer like your decision.
But a full respec is something that we have been assured time and again WILL NOT BE HAPPENING, and that we have plenty of GOOD reasons not to want.
No matter how many times you say that's "dumb", the reasons are still there, sitll valid, and even if they weren't, people have a right to their own opinions, and refusing to admit that is inarguably pig-headed and deliberately offensive.
EDIT: Fixed formatting.
''. You're asking for the ability to undo things you chose to do because you no longer like your decision.''
THIS is why a respec petition is actually a sensible idea. At least one FULL respec once every dropsuit variant and weapon has been released.
WHY? well, its not that i NO LONGER LIKE MY DECISION, more like:
-CCP does not give you ANY help at all to make a solid decision; in game descriptions are OFF , promising things that they arent.(like BREACH FORGE GUN: ''cannot move while charging''.WELL NOBODY told me i couldnt move AFTER the shot was charged.)
Militia weapons are the ones that should help you do this decision,but there are a lot of weapons that dont have a MLT version so you can try it out, making the only effective way of testing a weapon is SPENDING SP.
So the other viable option is to spend a good 2-3 hours to create a new character and buy and ''try out'' a specific item, in a not to optimal enviroment nor setting. So HOW EXACTLY im going to do my ''important and permanent'' decision based on what I IMAGINE they are based on the description?
My time is more important than a game. And same is for a lot of other people.
-CCP rebalance issues: I DO NOT abuse Cal LOGI, i never used a Flaylock pistol, not a TAC AR not even LLAV, just for the record. BUT CCP DOES change stuff ridiculously often making your ''highly important and Permanent decisions'' pointless. I might spend a month thinking, and decide: Ok i want to use Minmatar Logi.Spend 5+ mill in doing a loadout just for it, and next month CCP might nerf it to the ground.
Sorry , but my time is a LOT more important than EVE fanboys: ''no respecs on eve, no respecs on dust'' stupid a** motto....
-'' You can choose not to spend it''.This is , by far the stupidest thing you've said in that post. With all due respect, why would someone play a game with RPG elements if you are not going to PROGRESS?
-''But a full respec is something that we have been assured time and again WILL NOT BE HAPPENING, and that we have plenty of GOOD reasons not to want.''
Actually the reasons given are nothing but bulltalk. They are abstract excuses inspired by a decade old game that did good because the lack of competition at the time.
BUT DUST514 is NOT without competition. Dust514 MUST give their players a hand and besides PARTIAL RESPECS , CCP should offer a optional FULL respec when everything is out and balanced better.
IF NOT, something that did not happen with EVE will happen to DUST. Same goes with me. If everything is out and i dont get a respec, no way into having better equipment, NEWER equipment despite the months and money spent on the game? I'll simply pack my things and leave.
And so will many more.
And you can say: Well bye F*gg*t, we dont need you, whatever.
But you are ALREADY complaining about the low player count , running in the 3000-4000. DUST cannot afford to loose another 1-2k players and at this rate, you will be saying: Good luck, HTFU LOL,etcetc... Alone in your tranquility server.....
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.02 23:10:00 -
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@ Garrett Blacknova:
''Assuming you could charge the Breach Forge Gun then walk around holding the charge is actually pretty ridiculous. If you skill into something based on the description, and it doesn't work as described, then petition CCP for a refund of the SP in question. There's precedent for cases like that, for example, the SP I poured into Vehicle Engineering when the skill description said it gave a PG increase while it gave a CPU reduction on PG modules (which didn't apply to Militia modules at the time). That was a broken description, and the SP players had spent on the skill was refunded when players requested it to be. But that mistake DOESN'T entitle you to a FULL RESPEC.''
''''Assuming you could charge the Breach Forge Gun then walk around holding the charge is actually pretty ridiculous.''
-Why is assuming that i can move with a weapon in a FPS ridiculous?
-My request for a full respec is when everything is out. So we can play what we want to play. Same as you. You might be saving up for a caldari scout. What if it takes a year and a half in coming out? Or more? it IS stated that DUST is planned to be a long term game so they have NO hurry in making your caldari scout. So you are being denied your right to play the game to your full capacity with SP you have earned with your time,just because you are waiting for something to happen. You might be ok with this. Me and other people arent.
''Sorry, but I don't actually play EVE. Your time is no more valuable than mine from any perspective but your own. CCP rebalance things when said things are not working as intended. If that means you skilled into something that gets over-nerfed, petition for it to be brought back into line. If you skilled into something that was legitimately OP, and it's been fixed, you have no grounds to complain. And as mentioned above, there ARE situations where it will be expected for CCP to uphold the same approach they've taken in EVE, letting players reassign SP that was "overspent" on a skill that's had its cost reduced, or letting us respec a portion of our skills when something has undergone a major reworking of its core mechanics. With the massive changes being made to vehicles in 1.5, it's likely that vehicle users will be given a respec of all vehicle-related SP. When new racial variants of vehicles and/or new turrets come out, it's plausible that CP might find a way to allow us to shift our specific turret-related SP from the old turret skills into the new ones.''
-I have never specced into something OP. In any case , everything i've ever played with gets nerfed like scouts and heavies.
So i actually have ground to complain.
-It would be easier instead of doing all your twiching and shifting skills, to just give a respec. >..>
Plus if vehicle users get a respec, AFTER They have abused the LLAVs so much, then i think everyone else deserves a respec too...
.... but I'm not going to trade on that hope on a long-term project. Just because you, personally, have no impulse control and no sense of the long-term ramifications of your decisions, doesn't mean that your decisions shouldn't have long-term ramifications.
Its not lack of impulse control . Its just me trying to do what i usually do with games. Have fun.
And i have fun winning, or at least being useful.
You accomplish these by having the best skills/equipment your SP can buy. Say you have 6 mil spent and 2 mil saved SP?
Well, you are playing as a 6 mil soldier , and your team would do better with a 8 mil soldier.
Think doesnt make a difference? Think taht the ONLY thing you need is skill?please. Proficiency, +% in shield/armor/CPU/PG/Stamina/Stamina Regen/profile dampening etc MAKE a difference.Better weapons make a difference. Core locus grenades Lai Dai nades MAKE a difference.ADV/PROTO Uplinks make a difference.
Of course you can DO GREAT even with MLT weapons, but thats just you being better than the enemy. In The case you fight somebody with your exact same skill, hes gonna win, because he is NOT saving SP for something that might come in 3 years....I dont have fun loosing to someone JUST because they have better equipment, there by i spend my SP in order to be stronger.
''Part of the reason EVE Online is STILL popular is that it offers something that almost no other game in the genre does. That "something" is the same "something" you're asking for CCP to remove from DUST because it doesn't suit your personal preference.''
-Yes DUST514 is offering something no other game has. But there is a REASON no other game has it. They went with games that give you the ability to try different loadouts and change gameplay for increased Game time.
I understand DUST is unique in this.
Unique doesnt mean it will suceed.
'' That's fine. If you don't like it, play other games and collect your passive SP until you have a nice stockpile to waste. If and when you get bored of your new skills, go back to your latest FOTM game until you have more SP built up, then come back to DUST again.
Your arguments in favour of a respec are as relevant to me as my arguments against it are to you. But guess what? CCP are set on the reasons I like the game, so I'm confident that I'm going to get my way instead of you here. Problem?
No problem at all. As always, i try to do the best for the game i like at the moment. If the game does not work in my favor.Well to bad, life goes on and other games will like having another player.BUT YOU CANNOT tell me to stop fighting for what i think it is the best for the game i like.Even if by your point of view is wrong....
And I challenge you to find one post - just one - where I've complained about the lack of players. Me, personally, that is. Obviously.
I wont take that challenge.I never meant you as an individual compalining about this, more like you anti respec people. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:37:00 -
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Wohooo more respec threads, i love these....
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:43:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Vethosis wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Vethosis wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I've snipped the list of names from the opening post as there have been reports it is inaccurate. Please do not make a list of "supporters". Ok thanks for visiting us CCP Eterne, I know that you would not leave us hanging here for 2 months when this thread was created, because that would just be a waste of time, thank you for noticing us. Get over yourself. CCP probably hasn't responded because they don't do game design via petition, and thank god for that. You know the optional respec you were allowed to get for may 16th? ya, a person named general grodd made a petition and that's how we had that option. Live with your poor decisions. It's not CCP's fault you chose poorly.
IT IS CCP's FAULT CHANGING THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.
You cannot ask of the players to make,serious,long-lasting decisions when everything changes every month. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:35:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:IT IS CCP's FAULT CHANGING THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.
You cannot ask of the players to make,serious,long-lasting decisions when everything changes every month. And therein lies your faulty reasoning. CCP hasn't made any changes that warrant a respec. The Caldari Logi suit still performs as a logi suit. They didn't change it from being able to perform its role. Similarly, a Flaylock pistol still fires explosive, splash damage-based shots. That TAR still has the longest range/highest single shot of an AR. How have they fundamentally changed these things that now you need a respec? Oh wait, it's that they didn't and that you chased the OP fotm and are now pissed that they BALANCED your OP toys. Again, nobody's fault but your own. You shouldn't have played follow the leader and made your own decisions. Shaped your gameplay around what YOU wanted to play. Since you didn't, and you're now cross that you "wasted" your sp into weapons/items that are now ON PAR with everything else, you expect everyone else here to give a **** about your bad decisions? HTFU and cry me a river.
WHAT>? you think im a FOTM?
You are wrong small stuff, i dont need FOTM to have fun and kick minmatar butt.
I've played as a SCOUT for a long time and THATS what got modified.Changes to stats,to hit detection,stamina mechanics , radar functions,have ALL f*** my loadouts.
Also , faulty DESCRIPTIONS like the ones from the breach forge gun. It never SAID i couldnt move AFTER The shot was charged, The only reason i went FG was to use the Breach and i got deceived. Why would i want to use the regular FG if i already had Proto Swarms? I wanted those 2500+ dm and i did,but until i used the FG i didnt realize i WAS STUCK to the ground with the charged shot. That was already after i got WEaponry Lv5,HEavy weaponry Lv 3 and FG operation Lv 2.
And i could go on on but i wont...point made.... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.18 21:26:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:IT IS CCP's FAULT CHANGING THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.
You cannot ask of the players to make,serious,long-lasting decisions when everything changes every month. And therein lies your faulty reasoning. CCP hasn't made any changes that warrant a respec. The Caldari Logi suit still performs as a logi suit. They didn't change it from being able to perform its role. Similarly, a Flaylock pistol still fires explosive, splash damage-based shots. That TAR still has the longest range/highest single shot of an AR. How have they fundamentally changed these things that now you need a respec? Oh wait, it's that they didn't and that you chased the OP fotm and are now pissed that they BALANCED your OP toys. Again, nobody's fault but your own. You shouldn't have played follow the leader and made your own decisions. Shaped your gameplay around what YOU wanted to play. Since you didn't, and you're now cross that you "wasted" your sp into weapons/items that are now ON PAR with everything else, you expect everyone else here to give a **** about your bad decisions? HTFU and cry me a river. WHAT>? you think im a FOTM?
You are wrong small stuff, i dont need FOTM to have fun and kick minmatar butt.
I've played as a SCOUT for a long time and THATS what got modified.Changes to stats,to hit detection,stamina mechanics , radar functions,have ALL f*** my loadouts.
Also , faulty DESCRIPTIONS like the ones from the breach forge gun. It never SAID i couldnt move AFTER The shot was charged, The only reason i went FG was to use the Breach and i got deceived. Why would i want to use the regular FG if i already had Proto Swarms? I wanted those 2500+ dm and i did,but until i used the FG i didnt realize i WAS STUCK to the ground with the charged shot. That was already after i got WEaponry Lv5,HEavy weaponry Lv 3 and FG operation Lv 2.
And i could go on on but i wont...point made.... well, you can jump whilst using the breach 
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:24:00 -
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calvin b wrote:signed. I want out of heavies and the HMG.
Another fallen heavy/scout going FTW in med suits? welcome.
I'll give you a tour:
We have Assault Logis, Tank logis,Sniper Logis,AV logis,Scout Logis, Do it all Logis,True logis, all with 900+ HP , Active scanners, a lot of regen and an army of logibros protecting your suit so it doesnt get nerfed.
You are welcome.
BTW , i want a respec, i dont need my scout stuff anymore...
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