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John Mc Geachy
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.04 21:09:00 -
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I agree with respec put me on the list |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
962
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Posted - 2013.08.04 21:57:00 -
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Vethosis wrote:I heard some people wanted a petition, so here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB26grrZS2Alowratehitman approves of respeccing in some parts, please watch the video it is only 5 minutes. Vethosis Sloth9320 EternalRMG Vesosis Niuvo Protocake Jr Bad Heal Soldiersaint Banned From Forums llluminaughty-696 KING SALASI LT SHANKS pierce Hawkeye WyrmHero1945 SILVERBACK 02 A'Real Fury hooc order Eldest Dragon KiN JRB XeroTheBigBoss SILVERBACK 03 Eris Ernaga Heavy Breaks ZDub 303 DRE PrEaCh flesth IM-JUST TO-FAT Beowulf Folkvar SILVERBACK 01 TheDarthMa94 RAYNE Moon DR feldernatch Gawen Eadan Joshua Eadan TIGGY B tRUPPer88 smoke 2joint Cat Merc Dr Kennith Nosewater Adept Killer LongLostLust SAIRAX SIS SlyFrenzy DildoMcnutz Captain Africa Clone1 THEAMAZING POTHEAD Ivan Avogadro PandyRIP Hell Destroyer Clips A'hoy Delta90212 Sotapopthegrey gay LADY MYATO Parson Atreides Rynoceros CommanderBolt ISuperstar Tectonic Fusion Big Boss XIII dday3six Cy Cyclone1 shin suki White Mortadela BLACH HEROES Bad Trojan Vicious Minotaur FATprincess - XOXO the legend345 Solia Breton Epicus Brilllluntus Tank Gorillarape LudiKure ninda AfroSunshineY Consequence BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Vesperz TranquillBiscuit ofValor darkiller240 LuckyLuke Wargan Navare Shadow DoomLead Mother Facker NINJAPIRATEROBOTZOMBIE J Siegal Sports Dude xDeceiver Jathniel RA Drahcir Logi Stician 10123Jman Smooth Assassin KING CHECKMATE Gooby FETUS God Anpu Theimmortal Black SaMuRI Lilllllca Foster Akurabis John Mc Geachy Quite a few names, unfortunately all seem to be noob names as I don't recognize a single one. Small fish in a very big pond to be honest, and long term players don't appreciate noobs coming in...requesting respec.....thinking that ccp only listens to the minority. Go home!
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:22:00 -
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I'll sign it. I was 60% for it 40% against it. But in the end, it keeps the replay value for most players high if a respec was to happen.
SO I'LL SIGN! |
Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
23
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:24:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:I'll sign it. I was 60% for it 40% against it. But in the end, it keeps the replay value for most players high if a respec was to happen.
SO I'LL SIGN!
I will give insight in my reasonings if asked. <<<<< Minmatar proto logistics and **** proud of it! |
OrcsRTough
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
2
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:37:00 -
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Ill sign up. I think it they should provide a optinal respec to anything they nerf into the ground. The 40 cpu on cal logis hurts I never care about my hp it took away from all proto equipment. Note I didnt spec into callogi to be op I prefer shield just my play style |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
962
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:45:00 -
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'I wantz ma rezpek evry twee munfs bekus am a layzee noob whu can't be bovvered to work 4 ma sp, ccp givez me rezpek or am leevin dis gaem nd moovin to call ov baddlefeild moddern doodie 3'
Grow the f*** up!!!!!!!!! |
pierce Hawkeye
BurgezzE.T.F
77
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:47:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:pierce Hawkeye wrote:why must all the no respec people come to the respec petition if you're that annoyed at people getting respecs comment or sign the no respec petition or just go back to where you came from *Points to mordor* Face it, this "petition" is a farce, anyway. Can't really take it seriously when the numbers are so obviously padded with alts. Too bad, too. While I, personally, think FULL respecs would be a bad idea at this time, I would be curious to see just how many people legitimately ARE in favor. But, I would like a legitimate, ACCURATE number of PLAYERS, though, not some garbage petition whose numbers have been artificially inflated in a lame attempt to make it seem like there are more of you than there really are. Maybe then we can make some progress on this issue, instead of going around and around in circles, repeating and rehashing the same old excuses and arguements over and over and over again.
You have made some fair points and i'm sure that there is petition inflaters and i too would like to be reasured that all of those who sign are legitimate i would also like it iff the same continuing arguments would cease insted of endlessly go on. |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
18
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:47:00 -
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Add me!!!
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Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:01:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:Hell no.
Respecs go against the very being of the EVE universe, which is 'your actions have consequences'.
If you want to pew pew a bit in a game without this, I think Battlefield or COD are both catering to your playstyle. You can change all the weapons all the time in them.
Also, stuff gets balanced all the time. Deal with it and play what you like to play instead of what is the fotm build. This way you won't rage on some internet forums when some numbers get fiddled with for the good of the game. How is a person suppose to interpret the consequences of their actions, if they don't have all the variables, and even further if those variables are subject to continual, radical changes. With the example of the CalLogi, it was very obvious that suit's bonus would either be lessened or outright changed, but the CPU decrease come out of left field surprising several people. What if in 1.4's infantry rebalance all suits got a decrease in CPU and PG? How could players have planned for that? Now I agree that if respecs were offered too often it would throw out consequence. I advocate 1 respec a year with 1 addition AUR respec available in the same time frame. So 2 a year if a players is willing/able to pay for the second. Personally I feel this is a fair comprise because it allows for respecs, but also gives them consequence as they are not readily available.
The consequences of some choices ingame of your are unknown, as are they of most things. (would we have won this match if didn't focus on the tank? etc. etc.) If you want to know everything or even most things in advance, playing a multiplayer game is a really bad choice. Playing a game set in the EVE universe is an even worse choice. Since both thrive on people making choices without knowing everything and dealing with the consequences of those actions taken.
That is why you need to learn to focus less on what is best and more on what do I find fun to play with, so you don't go haywire when something happens with your suit. The caldari logi suit is still very much a logi suit. Following the skill what you find fun to play a CPU or PG decrease wouldn't matter, maybe you'll have to switch out a mod for for another one and switch some PG or/and CPU mods, the way you play the suit however wouldn't change. A logi suit would still be a logi suit, even if you have a bit less tank on it.
I think the problem with people wanting respecs is that they don't realize that the road to your goal is the goal and you'll have to enjoy that. instead they want Proto fotm builds for every patch something gets changed and they see another fotm build instead of enjoying the role they like to play.
The only nice idea for respecs I've seen was in the Feedback and Ideas subsection, which had Respecs as reverse training. So every match instead of gaining SP, you transferred SP from a skill to general SP pool again, ready to spend it on another skill. |
Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
24
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:14:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:dday3six wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:Hell no.
Respecs go against the very being of the EVE universe, which is 'your actions have consequences'.
If you want to pew pew a bit in a game without this, I think Battlefield or COD are both catering to your playstyle. You can change all the weapons all the time in them.
Also, stuff gets balanced all the time. Deal with it and play what you like to play instead of what is the fotm build. This way you won't rage on some internet forums when some numbers get fiddled with for the good of the game. How is a person suppose to interpret the consequences of their actions, if they don't have all the variables, and even further if those variables are subject to continual, radical changes. With the example of the CalLogi, it was very obvious that suit's bonus would either be lessened or outright changed, but the CPU decrease come out of left field surprising several people. What if in 1.4's infantry rebalance all suits got a decrease in CPU and PG? How could players have planned for that? Now I agree that if respecs were offered too often it would throw out consequence. I advocate 1 respec a year with 1 addition AUR respec available in the same time frame. So 2 a year if a players is willing/able to pay for the second. Personally I feel this is a fair comprise because it allows for respecs, but also gives them consequence as they are not readily available. The consequences of some choices ingame of your are unknown, as are they of most things. (would we have won this match if didn't focus on the tank? etc. etc.) If you want to know everything or even most things in advance, playing a multiplayer game is a really bad choice. Playing a game set in the EVE universe is an even worse choice. Since both thrive on people making choices without knowing everything and dealing with the consequences of those actions taken. That is why you need to learn to focus less on what is best and more on what do I find fun to play with, so you don't go haywire when something happens with your suit. The caldari logi suit is still very much a logi suit. Following the skill what you find fun to play a CPU or PG decrease wouldn't matter, maybe you'll have to switch out a mod for for another one and switch some PG or/and CPU mods, the way you play the suit however wouldn't change. A logi suit would still be a logi suit, even if you have a bit less tank on it. I think the problem with people wanting respecs is that they don't realize that the road to your goal is the goal and you'll have to enjoy that. instead they want Proto fotm builds for every patch something gets changed and they see another fotm build instead of enjoying the role they like to play. The only nice idea for respecs I've seen was in the Feedback and Ideas subsection, which had Respecs as reverse training. So every match instead of gaining SP, you transferred SP from a skill to general SP pool again, ready to spend it on another skill.
I like this idea |
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:18:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:dday3six wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:Hell no.
Respecs go against the very being of the EVE universe, which is 'your actions have consequences'.
If you want to pew pew a bit in a game without this, I think Battlefield or COD are both catering to your playstyle. You can change all the weapons all the time in them.
Also, stuff gets balanced all the time. Deal with it and play what you like to play instead of what is the fotm build. This way you won't rage on some internet forums when some numbers get fiddled with for the good of the game. How is a person suppose to interpret the consequences of their actions, if they don't have all the variables, and even further if those variables are subject to continual, radical changes. With the example of the CalLogi, it was very obvious that suit's bonus would either be lessened or outright changed, but the CPU decrease come out of left field surprising several people. What if in 1.4's infantry rebalance all suits got a decrease in CPU and PG? How could players have planned for that? Now I agree that if respecs were offered too often it would throw out consequence. I advocate 1 respec a year with 1 addition AUR respec available in the same time frame. So 2 a year if a players is willing/able to pay for the second. Personally I feel this is a fair comprise because it allows for respecs, but also gives them consequence as they are not readily available. The consequences of some choices ingame of your are unknown, as are they of most things. (would we have won this match if didn't focus on the tank? etc. etc.) If you want to know everything or even most things in advance, playing a multiplayer game is a really bad choice. Playing a game set in the EVE universe is an even worse choice. Since both thrive on people making choices without knowing everything and dealing with the consequences of those actions taken. That is why you need to learn to focus less on what is best and more on what do I find fun to play with, so you don't go haywire when something happens with your suit. The caldari logi suit is still very much a logi suit. Following the skill what you find fun to play a CPU or PG decrease wouldn't matter, maybe you'll have to switch out a mod for for another one and switch some PG or/and CPU mods, the way you play the suit however wouldn't change. A logi suit would still be a logi suit, even if you have a bit less tank on it. I think the problem with people wanting respecs is that they don't realize that the road to your goal is the goal and you'll have to enjoy that. instead they want Proto fotm builds for every patch something gets changed and they see another fotm build instead of enjoying the role they like to play. The only nice idea for respecs I've seen was in the Feedback and Ideas subsection, which had Respecs as reverse training. So every match instead of gaining SP, you transferred SP from a skill to general SP pool again, ready to spend it on another skill. I like this idea
I've read about this idea too and I think it like it better than a respec. Because it makes sense. You have to live with your actions and have to work to fix things or get them the way you want. You can't just get away scot free.
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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
289
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:21:00 -
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Just under 100 people an I know that at least 15 have cal logis an faylocks lol, put everyone's current skill specs beside their names so we can see if it's all fotm! |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
80
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:22:00 -
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*sigh*
I'll sign. But I have no good reason to argue one. I won't be flank-hurt if I don't get one. |
Klash 816
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
42
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Posted - 2013.08.05 01:04:00 -
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I still think we should w8 until we have more things to put SP into before we start asking for a respec , But what the hell.
Signed- (Hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the balls) |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
169
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Posted - 2013.08.05 01:19:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:The consequences of some choices ingame of your are unknown, as are they of most things. (would we have won this match if didn't focus on the tank? etc. etc.) If you want to know everything or even most things in advance, playing a multiplayer game is a really bad choice. Playing a game set in the EVE universe is an even worse choice. Since both thrive on people making choices without knowing everything and dealing with the consequences of those actions taken.
I'm not referring to general gameplay, and bringing it up is distractionary straw man at it's finest. What I am talking about is the consequences of character progression. Dust requires players to map out their drospsuit fit months in advance in order to make sure they're able to fit what they want. My point is summed up as; Either you're gambling or you're stat planning, forcing both is asinine. Beyond that I'm not sure what multiplayer games you talking about, most offer a much better expierence for what they are marketed as than Dust does.
Karl Koekwaus wrote:That is why you need to learn to focus less on what is best and more on what do I find fun to play with, so you don't go haywire when something happens with your suit. The caldari logi suit is still very much a logi suit. Following the skill what you find fun to play a CPU or PG decrease wouldn't matter, maybe you'll have to switch out a mod for for another one and switch some PG or/and CPU mods, the way you play the suit however wouldn't change. A logi suit would still be a logi suit, even if you have a bit less tank on it.
I think the problem with people wanting respecs is that they don't realize that the road to your goal is the goal and you'll have to enjoy that. instead they want Proto fotm builds for every patch something gets changed and they see another fotm build instead of enjoying the role they like to play.
So what if being effective and the "best" is what is fun for a player? You do understand that Dust was and still is marketed as a competitive shooter in which you can play as you want. Proto gear is the high end, and required for PC. Fun and effective/best doesn't have to be at odds, and for some it's not. Are you going to tell the players lured to Dust for competitive gaming expierence Dust is a bad choice for them too? You know frankly I see "Dust isn't the game for you", or some derivative being told to several players. So who is it for? And furthermore how is that exclusionary outlook actually healthy for the game.
Karl Koekwaus wrote:The only nice idea for respecs I've seen was in the Feedback and Ideas subsection, which had Respecs as reverse training. So every match instead of gaining SP, you transferred SP from a skill to general SP pool again, ready to spend it on another skill.
The idea you talking about is an interesting one, and CCP has said they are looking into it. (link #42Posted: 2013.07.04 06:54) However the only way it's going to work is if players aren't force to lose all but 300K SP from the skill in question, at that point most would just start another character. |
Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 04:19:00 -
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Klash 816 wrote:I still think we should w8 until we have more things to put SP into before we start asking for a respec , But what the hell.
Signed- (Hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the balls)
ditto |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.08.05 04:25:00 -
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signed. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
180
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Posted - 2013.08.05 04:25:00 -
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Repecs will not happen period, CCP is following EVE policy so this game is doomed.
They forgot that they are developing for console not PC.
Playing GTA IV Ballard of Gay Tony great dlc btw. Can't wait for GTA V. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:04:00 -
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I really hope for the best of this game, I think respecs will help, no one would quit for respecs, but plenty will for the absence of them.
Respec for AUR? Sure. Cooldown? Ok. For ISK? Farm for it. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
169
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Posted - 2013.08.05 05:38:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:I really hope for the best of this game, I think respecs will help, no one would quit for respecs, but plenty will for the absence of them.
Respec for AUR? Sure. Cooldown? Ok. For ISK? Farm for it.
I've actually had some players threaten to quit Dust and even Eve if respecs allowed in Dust. That or they threatened to riot in Eve. |
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.08.08 12:29:00 -
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Hey Vethosis I just wanted to apologize for getting your post locked i did not mean to do that. It wont happen again |
Tsukuyomi Amaterasu
Stand Alone Clones
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:32:00 -
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Signed |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
204
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:54:00 -
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Signed. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
2944
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:02:00 -
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Wow, this thread has a LOT of replies. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:04:00 -
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I have one question:
Why do you want a respec? Just a simple answer will suffice
Eg. I want a new dropsuit |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
204
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:09:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I have one question:
Why do you want a respec? Just a simple answer will suffice
Eg. I want a new dropsuit I'm bored of my role. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
311
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I have one question:
Why do you want a respec? Just a simple answer will suffice
Eg. I want a new dropsuit I want to get back in my minnie healer suit. Also i need to do my core skills alot better. I have learned alot in this months but not being able to fix it is very frustrating! I hate combat i prefer being a dedicated healer that is why i would like a respec. i am an amarr logi and i cant stand it! The minnie logi had the most slots which means carrying more items for the team. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
395
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:55:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I have one question:
Why do you want a respec? Just a simple answer will suffice
Eg. I want a new dropsuit
Well I just wanna get out of my fat suit. I will then get my core Flaylock, assault Scrambler Rifle and the ADV Caldari assault suit. Then I'll set up my core skills better and will save up my remaining SP for maybe another weapon, in case I get bored with the ASR.
-XOXO
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
198
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:55:00 -
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It's sad to see this thread get ignored by the blue tags. I feel for the folks who are bored of their current role, or the folks who finally understand the skill system and would like a do over to skill correctly. Even the folks who got their weapons or suite nerfed.
If it was up to me the skill respec option would have been coded in the game from closed beta. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:22:00 -
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dday3six wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I really hope for the best of this game, I think respecs will help, no one would quit for respecs, but plenty will for the absence of them.
Respec for AUR? Sure. Cooldown? Ok. For ISK? Farm for it. I've actually had some players threaten to quit Dust and even Eve if respecs are allowed in Dust. That or they threatened to riot in Eve.
All empty threats, those nerds will not mind a respec. |
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