Which medic goes running into a hot zone with no cover fire to save people.

I never liked this argument.

And you dont have to revive, you can choose to die and pop another clone if an area is overrun.

What crack are you smoking?

If anything, sidearm primary frees up more CPU/PG for better equipment/mods and/or MORE tank. Logi should be more concerned with tank and equipment than with DPS, if they're reduced to scout level health they're being made useless. Logi NEED tank to be able to tank long enough to evade and return support fire if need be, they don't need uber combat ability, that should be the domain of the assault.

Too bad most of the scrubs who are "Logi" are just so hung up on being "combat viable" that they think they can't run support without a precious light weapon.

It can be done, they're just too afraid to admit it.

Whatever though, I'm done arguing about it, the so-called Logi who'll come out of the woodwork when they're afraid that they might get the Light Weapon slot swapped for a Sidearm won't be happy until we've got a fully homogenized medium frame.

And that's why the conversations about logi in this build have been about how they're barely able to stand up to assault players.

No, it's usually something about their none-extistant higher EHP, that only cal-logis actually have. There's also always a lot of people claiming all suits are OP, but never actually explaing how or why. Kind of like you, you just throw out random stats that are better than the assaults, and say "that's why", without explaining how those stats make them better at "slaying".

Heavies have more health than assaults, are they better slayers too now?

No, it's usually something about their none-extistant higher EHP, that only cal-logis actually have. There's also always a lot of people claiming all suits are OP, but never actually explaing how or why. Kind of like you, you just throw out random stats that are better than the assaults, and say "that's why", without explaining how those stats make them better at "slaying".

Heavies have more health than assaults, are they better slayers too now?

Nope. Logis being "OP" have been discussed to death, that is true, but no one ever gives reasons why. Go ahead, you can be the first, start with the Amarr and Gallente suits.

I almost want to hear how the Minmatar logi is OP first. I feel like there's this uber fitting I haven't discovered yet.

I'll post the numbers when I get home and have the game in front of me.

And the discussion isn't straight 'OP', its that logistics are acting as assault instead of acting as logistic. It's OP in that they can literally do anything in the game (besides carry heavy weapons), and rarely its the medic/supply/scanner/drop uplink end of things.

Do you really, honestly feel that logistics players are playing the game as logistics players, or are they playing as assault players?

I almost want to hear how the Minmatar logi is OP first. I feel like there's this uber fitting I haven't discovered yet.

I'll post the numbers when I get home and have the game in front of me.

And the discussion isn't straight 'OP', its that logistics are acting as assault instead of acting as logistic. It's OP in that they can literally do anything in the game (besides carry heavy weapons), and rarely its the medic/supply/scanner/drop uplink end of things.

Do you really, honestly feel that logistics players are playing the game as logistics players, or are they playing as assault players?

Which medic goes running into a hot zone with no cover fire to save people.

I never liked this argument.

And you dont have to revive, you can choose to die and pop another clone if an area is overrun.

I almost want to hear how the Minmatar logi is OP first. I feel like there's this uber fitting I haven't discovered yet.

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Do you really, honestly feel that logistics players are playing the game as logistics players, or are they playing as assault players?

Some of us are doing both.

Some of us are doing both.

That's kind of my issue with the whole thing. It's that Logi can do both. Heavy can't play as assault, assault can't play as logi or heavy, scout certainly can't play as assault or logi or heavy, but a logi can play as 3 of the 4 classes with the right spec.

Some of us are doing both.

I love how people say that the gallente logi isn't OP because putting on armor plates make them slow, But they don't realize that the ferroscale plates have no movement penalty and have 60 HP at complex which allows them to stack 5 of them which would give them 555 armor (with core armor at lvl 5) and have 5hp/s regen with no movement penalty and allow them to stack damage mods at the same time, yeah thats not OP

That's kind of my issue with the whole thing. It's that Logi can do both. Heavy can't play as assault, assault can't play as logi or heavy, scout certainly can't play as assault or logi or heavy, but a logi can play as 3 of the 4 classes with the right spec.

That's kind of my issue with the whole thing. It's that Logi can do both. Heavy can't play as assault, assault can't play as logi or heavy, scout certainly can't play as assault or logi or heavy, but a logi can play as 3 of the 4 classes with the right spec.