HTFU and welcome to New Eden.

Kick everyone out of the main PC corp leave only your trusted squad leaders, get one of your directors to make a isk transfer alt and setup an secondary 'Grunt' Corp.

Use the secondary corp to pull invites from. Keep roster of folks in second corp track their behavior and performance and trust levels. People in the PC squad leader corp will be the only ones able to pull folks from the grunt corp into planetary conquest since grunt corp will not be on the map at all.

Its pretty simple stupid, prevent random squads of strangers at least, unless you are really bad at recruiting you shouldn't get more than 3 turn coats and if you keep filtering them out that should all go away.

mmmm so being a CPM member you'r not allowed to play the game to it's full and use all the advantages you got ??

Also CPM0 is only there to really to make up a way so that the next CPM can be player elected and not elected by CCP. Everything they do other than that i guess is pretty much because they like the game and really wants it balanced and fun for all.

Both of these CPM members have now on the record voiced support for the tactic known as AWOXing. This tactic while it can be considered meta-game is obviously a major problem for planetary conquest due to a severe lack of corporation controls and is far to easy to pull off. The job of CPM is to be the advocate for the community so that dust can thrive, however it seems that that duty has been set aside and replaced with their duty to Betamax (and their use of AWOXing) and the defense of a tactic that will turn the greatest part of dust into a side show.

When CPM0 was announced many members of the community voiced their concerns of having 2 members of CPM from the same corporation and now it seems that those concerns have been proven valid. Any CPM members who have the community as their top priority would quickly condemn this tactic, and would use their influence to push CCP to give corporation leadership stronger controls over their PC battle roster.

haha AWOXing cracks me up.

btw, where does the term "AWOX" come from. i fear it's something plainly obvious that i am unable to see. can anyone enlighten me?

dude... lol

This is New Eden.

There are asshats, griefers, team killers and otherwise slimy individuals. There is no honor except for the ones the community or you decide and even they only exist in opinions. I have no doubts that what i did was going to happen (hell it sorta allready did once!) but its not a big deal so long as you play smart and understand that not everyone will play fair.

How is using spies any less cheap than using tac ARs and other OP equiptment?

the answer?

its all subjetive.

We all have the same tools at our disposal, its up to us on how to use it.

CPM is supposed to be the voice of the community, and I doubt anyone in the community legitimately believes that the current system will help the dust community thrive.. Sure some people might find it funny now, but after several months the joke will get old and PC will become the new joke.

HTFU and post on your main.

Both of these CPM members have now on the record voiced support for the tactic known as AWOXing. This tactic while it can be considered meta-game is obviously a major problem for planetary conquest due to a severe lack of corporation controls and is far to easy to pull off. The job of CPM is to be the advocate for the community so that dust can thrive, however it seems that that duty has been set aside and replaced with their duty to Betamax (and their use of AWOXing) and the defense of a tactic that will turn the greatest part of dust into a side show.

When CPM0 was announced many members of the community voiced their concerns of having 2 members of CPM from the same corporation and now it seems that those concerns have been proven valid. Any CPM members who have the community as their top priority would quickly condemn this tactic, and would use their influence to push CCP to give corporation leadership stronger controls over their PC battle roster.

dude... lol

This is New Eden.

There are asshats, griefers, team killers and otherwise slimy individuals. There is no honor except for the ones the community or you decide and even they only exist in opinions. I have no doubts that what i did was going to happen (hell it sorta allready did once!) but its not a big deal so long as you play smart and understand that not everyone will play fair.

How is using spies any less cheap than using tac ARs and other OP equiptment?

the answer?

its all subjetive.

We all have the same tools at our disposal, its up to us on how to use it.

I am very confused but yes I accept this position thank you !

be condescending, yeah, that'll win 'em over.

Both of these CPM members have now on the record voiced support for the tactic known as AWOXing. This tactic while it can be considered meta-game is obviously a major problem for planetary conquest due to a severe lack of corporation controls and is far to easy to pull off. The job of CPM is to be the advocate for the community so that dust can thrive, however it seems that that duty has been set aside and replaced with their duty to Betamax (and their use of AWOXing) and the defense of a tactic that will turn the greatest part of dust into a side show.

When CPM0 was announced many members of the community voiced their concerns of having 2 members of CPM from the same corporation and now it seems that those concerns have been proven valid. Any CPM members who have the community as their top priority would quickly condemn this tactic, and would use their influence to push CCP to give corporation leadership stronger controls over their PC battle roster.

I understand the New Eden metagame just as you must understand that the abuse of this mechanic will turn PC into a joke. This mechanic stays and soon we will be happy when 1k people are online. PC is the reason I've stayed in Dust for a year, I'm not going to sit on the sidelines while the CPM advocates for tactics that will lead to PC being 4 people in an MCC cooking grenades on themselves. You might be content to want PC play out this way, but 90% of the community won't be. Some might find it funny now, but in the end the moment they start having to restart their PS3 several times a day for months on end to switch between alts in their main and holding corporation because of weak corporation control systems I don't think many people will be left laughing.

I defended your initial selection to the CPM Jenza because I thought I knew you had to games success at heart. I don't do this for personal vendettas. I want PC to be long running, however the abuse of the lack of corporation battle tools threatens the validity of it. You can do it for the lulz now, but in 6 months you may find yourself laughing alone in a giant blue dounut and no one to fight.

Dude, it's just "awoxing". There are no capitals in it. Also, it has a long history in New Eden and you won't find anyone that knows anything about the themes of both games that would disagree that the meta game is at least half the game. This is a sandbox. How the game goes is up to you, and you alone. Be careful who you choose as allies.

The guy was calling for CPM members to be fired for practicing a central component of New Eden culture. What can you do with someone like that but condescend to them?

That's not a "tool". That's an incredibly clumsy work around to a broken and poorly thought out system. While it will work in the short term, is a CPM really suggesting that's an acceptable system? Make every corporation with aspirations to participate in PC create multiple corps, alts for every officer, and additional in-game chat and communication channels as an ass-backwards way to create member access rights? Hell CCP should want to avoid such a system simply to save on server resources. Take off your fanboy glasses, they're not an actual requirement of being a CPM member. Clumsy annoyances for the sake of clumsy annoyances isn't "meta", it's just a clumsy annoyance.

Ok no really, having representitives that behave so poorly and misrepresent the community is dispicable. Besides the fact that what they do displays a great level of cowardice, not to mention displays their superlative weakness to direct conflict, it also shows that this game supports the abuse of power that CCP has themselves practiced many times.

The community is immature, as is the governing power and the few representitives chosen to represent the community to the governing power. People are allowed to roam free, run their mouths and do as they wish in new eden as long as CCP developement team and GMs arnt insulted in the process.

Basically, they handed a three year old tools to create life and and a world, and if the three year old throws a tantrum he can get rid of whatever he wants.