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Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:10:00 -
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Typing on a tablet sucks so I just copied this from a similar thread.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cass Barr wrote:What tools are those? Kick everyone out of the main PC corp leave only your trusted squad leaders, get one of your directors to make a isk transfer alt and setup an secondary 'Grunt' Corp. Use the secondary corp to pull invites from. Keep roster of folks in second corp track their behavior and performance and trust levels. People in the PC squad leader corp will be the only ones able to pull folks from the grunt corp into planetary conquest since grunt corp will not be on the map at all. Its pretty simple stupid, prevent random squads of strangers at least, unless you are really bad at recruiting you shouldn't get more than 3 turn coats and if you keep filtering them out that should all go away.
That's not a "tool". That's an incredibly clumsy work around to a broken and poorly thought out system. While it will work in the short term, is a CPM really suggesting that's an acceptable system? Make every corporation with aspirations to participate in PC create multiple corps, alts for every officer, and additional in-game chat and communication channels as an ass-backwards way to create member access rights? Hell CCP should want to avoid such a system simply to save on server resources. Take off your fanboy glasses, they're not an actual requirement of being a CPM member. Clumsy annoyances for the sake of clumsy annoyances isn't "meta", it's just a clumsy annoyance. |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:21:00 -
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While approving of the corporation performing such a maneuver isn't really grounds to call for a removal, I'm having a much harder time reconciling the complete lack of leadership on an issue which is clearly a problem if only for the ridiculous ease of pulling it off and erecting yet another wall in the way of new players.
Spend a few months infiltrating a Corp and gaining trust and leadership, THAT'S an infiltration op. Being able to screw over a Corp the very minute you join it takes no skill and less work. |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:20:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Cass Barr wrote:That's not a "tool". That's an incredibly clumsy work around to a broken and poorly thought out system. While it will work in the short term, is a CPM really suggesting that's an acceptable system? Make every corporation with aspirations to participate in PC create multiple corps, alts for every officer, and additional in-game chat and communication channels as an ass-backwards way to create member access rights? Hell CCP should want to avoid such a system simply to save on server resources. Take off your fanboy glasses, they're not an actual requirement of being a CPM member. Clumsy annoyances for the sake of clumsy annoyances isn't "meta", it's just a clumsy annoyance. Nobody suggested it was acceptable... perhaps read the thread. It was suggested that there is a way to deal with it right now not that it was ideal or that nothing else was needed. If you get to call people fanboys then perhaps take off your haterz glasses so you see what is actually being said.
Fair enough, I actually did go back and reread it and IWS did say "Well there are tools to resolve the issue until ingame means are made available"
So yeah I did respond too harshly.
I still don't believe cheerleading actions that you know result from deficiencies in the game design is good form, though. I'd view it as akin to approving of the intentional abuse of known glitches and exploits in battle. So for my own orientation to the culture, is that something that would also be acceptable according to the New Eden ethos? |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:40:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Nobody suggested it was acceptable... perhaps read the thread. It was suggested that there is a way to deal with it right now not that it was ideal or that nothing else was needed.
If you get to call people fanboys then perhaps take off your haterz glasses so you see what is actually being said. Fair enough, I actually did go back and reread it and IWS did say "Well there are tools to resolve the issue until ingame means are made available" So yeah I did respond too harshly. I still don't believe cheerleading actions that you know result from deficiencies in the game design is good form, though. I'd view it as akin to approving of the intentional abuse of known glitches and exploits in battle. So for my own orientation to the culture, is that something that would also be acceptable according to the New Eden ethos?
Since you responded, IWS, I'll repost this mea culpa from earlier for jumping down your throat a bit too hard. I still think it's a ****** situation that's indicative of a poorly thought out system on CCP's part that should be addressed ASAP. |
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