dunno how many vehicle drivers are in this post but allow me to add a dropship pilots view on this.
My assault dropship runs me 1,491,420 isk if i loose one, i have to grind quite a few games to get it back. These dropships are just as vulnerable to forgeguns as the regular ones, and tanks can almost one shot it. Dont even get me started on the people who just sit in a rail turret. I think its nice that if i call it in and 3 rail shots wizz by i dont have to loose this very very expensive dropship and i can still go and fight instead of flying circles in the red line because i cant leave the dropship. I can see some peoples frustration in the fact that you dont get a kill on the tank/dropship but please keep in mind that you have still gotten rid of it, and as a dedicated dropship pilot you have denied me my job, but thats ok because i dont have to go grind 20 games for my dropship again. i think this is a fair trade

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

Dude your an idiot you really are yes we recall vehicles but you go a switch out suits to change weapons and regain health you also spam and just a pain so keep it the same ccp and stop this dude starting stupid posts like this

Just make the "hack" take a little longer. I'm sure they never intended for vehicle recall to be used in the heat of battle.

This seems like a good idea. Add a longer hack. Reset the hack if the vehicle takes damage during the hack, and have the vehicle picked up by an RDV.

More balanced, more fun, and believable.

It's faster than the lock on and flight time from 50m away, funny **** when tank rolls behind a building and it's gone, just gone.

WOW! first of all, i don't think most of you EVER recalled a vehicle before. if your taking damage, it resets the recall hack.
second, if i spawn with an SMG and the situation doesn't call for CQC, i RECALL that fitting at a supply depot.
also, if im about to die in my dropsuit, i run to a supply depot and get my ass out of trouble.
theres no difference between dropsuit/supply depot and vehicle/recall.

GOOD DAY

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

WOW! first of all, i don't think most of you EVER recalled a vehicle before. if your taking damage, it resets the recall hack.
second, if i spawn with an SMG and the situation doesn't call for CQC, i RECALL that fitting at a supply depot.
also, if im about to die in my dropsuit, i run to a supply depot and get my ass out of trouble.
theres no difference between dropsuit/supply depot and vehicle/recall.

GOOD DAY

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

I totally agree that a tank should be recalled by an RDV. A HUGE vehicle shouldn't just vanish after ten seconds (or however long it takes). It should take as long as counter-hacking an objective, then queue it if the RDV is busy. I think that would be a good solution. That way, the tank driver has to get the tank out of harm's way and where the RDV won't get shot down. Then call it in, instead of relying on his tank's shield and armor to last ten more seconds before it turns into magical leprechaun **** and floats back to his assets.

I'm just curious why an RDV doesn't come to pick it up.
Seems pretty devoid of risk that we can just recall almost instantly.

On the other hand your suit is recalled in one second and replaced with another at a supply depot.

Kill the guy recalling it then hack his vehicle.

/thread

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

lol@this

ppl who are crying over this are the same assault tards who do the exact same thing at supply depots

Good point, and you can be killed while recalling vehicle..

yeah foot scrubs are always whineing and trying to get havs nerfed more. i dont get it (IF YOU DO NOT RUN VEHICLES YOUR OPINION ABOUT VEHICLES DOES NOT MATTER) maybe when you swap froma militia to a better suits a big red target should hover over ur head for the first 15 second because thats what ur asking for havs. we get orbitaled enough our tanks get lost in transition enough stop trying to make ccp make things harder for vehicle users and step up your av game scrub. any proto av specialist will tell you av is overpowered the fact that your can be found on the forums still whining about tanks means you should be playing dust because you suck. cant kill a tank with op av = you suck

oh, god tankers are dipsh*ts. First off, you are the one that sucks. you REQUIRE a tank to perform well in a match. i've used the gunloggi before. (yes, i made the mistake of speccing into vehicles too.) It is absolute easy mode.you're worse than the people who run duvolle tacs and run in packs so the other team instadies. if you are so bad with tanks that you need to take kt behind cover and recall it, you dont deserve to use it. and dont whine about the prices. tanks in instant battle shouldn't even be a thing now that conquest is up. use your vehicles to defend/attack territory. if you're good, the corp will buy the tanks.
but, wow, you whine wkrse than those little kids on youtube. people like you are the reason i bought 10000 hacked exo av nades.

If someone damages the owner while he's trying to recall, it interrupts. Sniper + AV guy = win.

When the tanker brings it back into battle, AV it to death before it can land. It's just as dead as if you killed it the first time.

If the tank is capable of being so heavily buffed that you can't kill it during the recall, a GOOD driver wouldn't bother to recall it, they'd tank up and kill you while moving into a safe area to recharge their cooldowns.

Damages the owner

the owner

owner

If the owner runs the tank away, puts his back to a building, and the tank in front with hardeners on taking the heat, you CANT damage the owner.

If the tank takes damage, the recall should stop. Simple as that. Not to mention how stupid fast the recall is. Should be as fast as retaking a hacked objective.

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

Damages the owner

the owner

owner

If the owner runs the tank away, puts his back to a building, and the tank in front with hardeners on taking the heat, you CANT damage the owner.

If the tank takes damage, the recall should stop. Simple as that. Not to mention how stupid fast the recall is. Should be as fast as retaking a hacked objective.

WOW! first of all, i don't think most of you EVER recalled a vehicle before. if your taking damage, it resets the recall hack.
second, if i spawn with an SMG and the situation doesn't call for CQC, i RECALL that fitting at a supply depot.
also, if im about to die in my dropsuit, i run to a supply depot and get my ass out of trouble.
theres no difference between dropsuit/supply depot and vehicle/recall.

GOOD DAY

I think there should be a isk price to recall a vehicle and if you call it down you get charged again, then every time this ( calling and recalling the same vehicle fitting) is done the price increases.

Oh, that Mort and those like him:
- "I don't kill infantry and installations fast enough plx buff"
- "Nerf all AV, militia swarms killed my proto"
- "I'm paraplegic and tanking with my tongue, make it easier"
- "I lost shields while proto-tank steamrolling pubbies in a skirmish, buff health by 60%"

Always good for a laugh, these tryhardest tankers.

I'm just curious why an RDV doesn't come to pick it up.
Seems pretty devoid of risk that we can just recall almost instantly.

I'm just curious why an RDV doesn't come to pick it up.
Seems pretty devoid of risk that we can just recall almost instantly.

Right. Title says it all. But, I suppose I'll elaborate.

We're in a match, this dude keeps driving his Prototype Falchion tank into battle.. When **** starts to get hot (Read: We force him to use his Shield Booster), he simply drives a short distance away, triggers all the hardeners, pops out, and recalls the vehicle. In under 10 seconds, *Poof*, no more worry about losing his tank

Then, true to form, he recalls it a few moments later from their red line.

Is this seriously how this feature was meant to be used? Especially with the incoming buff in tank hit points, that only extends peoples window to perform this.

Can we get some kind of 'Cancel' feature on this, where enemy damage cancels the recall action? Hell, it's faster than hacking a point, you can probably squeeze it in between Swarm launcher reloads even with that feature.

CCP?

I would go with one of the following:

Option 1: Recall the vehicle via RDV only thus giving AV guys a chance to blow it out of the sky.

Option 2: Cancel the recall whenever the vehicle in question suffers damage of any kind.

Nobody's saying remove the ability to recall vehicles. It's an awesome feature. But allowing recall MID-FIREFIGHT to cause them to simply vanish, just because the driver felt his investment was at risk? I highly doubt that was the spirit or intent of the feature.

The moment an asset is brought on to the field, it's at risk. That's Dust at it's core. This feature in its current implementation removes that risk for Tank drivers in its entirety. Yes, they cost alot. They're also very powerful. Same for full proto-suits. But every time I put my suit on the line, I accept that risk that I may lose the fitting. Removing that in-combat risk for tank drivers is just absurd.

As far as supply depots go, I'd just like to point out that the number of Depots was reduced drastically in Uprising maps, and that you can always destroy or retake a supply depot from suit-changers. It's really hard to compare that to stopping a magically vanishing tank.

wait wut?

you guys run over infantry in vehicles that move so fast they can't get away, you chase down personnel on foot with your tanks or snipe them from across the map with your tank's railguns and land your dropships on top of them to crush them and the first time someone suits out to effectively fight you you recall your vehicle and have the unmitigated gall to call that man's post stupid?

you guys are cowards and risk averse players, you wanna shoot someone in the face then do it on the ground, you wanna blow up a building or whatever, then use your tank, you need to transport troops?, then use the dropship to do it as was intended.

you wanna tuck your tail between your legs like a sissy?, then go back to playing COD...

what a fuckin joke that comment of yours is sir...

o/
Bill


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One thing I have not seen mentioned is the fact there are no Supply Depots in Ambush yet Pilots can still recall there Expensive Tank in a matter of seconds.


I have also seen some people complaining about OP AV, well AV is not OP it actually works out pretty well when Basic is against basic and Adv vs Adv so Id say its pretty balanced there. Also fully specced AV Infentry is virtually useless against other Infentry YOU ARE NOT.


Vehicles should not be able to be recalled in Ambush and Must take longer or have Designated areas for Vehicle Recall when in Skirmish

There are militia heavy suits you know, they are quite cheap and can take more than one sniper shot. If you have the skinweave heavy from a previous event then it's completely free. Also crouch - a smaller target is harder to hit and the cover afforded by your vehicle and any surrounding structures will keep you alive.

using a heavy suit doesn't let us carry an armor repairer....

lol@this

ppl who are crying over this are the same assault tards who do the exact same thing at supply depots

using a heavy suit doesn't let us carry an armor repairer....

There are militia heavy suits you know, they are quite cheap and can take more than one sniper shot. If you have the skinweave heavy from a previous event then it's completely free. Also crouch - a smaller target is harder to hit and the cover afforded by your vehicle and any surrounding structures will keep you alive.

Can you carry a malitia rep tool on your heavy suit ...... no I dont have problems as im smart when I call my tank back but I have seen others loose their tanks because well they wern that smart.

dunno how many vehicle drivers are in this post but allow me to add a dropship pilots view on this.
My assault dropship runs me 1,491,420 isk if i loose one, i have to grind quite a few games to get it back. These dropships are just as vulnerable to forgeguns as the regular ones, and tanks can almost one shot it. Dont even get me started on the people who just sit in a rail turret. I think its nice that if i call it in and 3 rail shots wizz by i dont have to loose this very very expensive dropship and i can still go and fight instead of flying circles in the red line because i cant leave the dropship. I can see some peoples frustration in the fact that you dont get a kill on the tank/dropship but please keep in mind that you have still gotten rid of it, and as a dedicated dropship pilot you have denied me my job, but thats ok because i dont have to go grind 20 games for my dropship again. i think this is a fair trade

dunno how many vehicle drivers are in this post but allow me to add a dropship pilots view on this.
My assault dropship runs me 1,491,420 isk if i loose one, i have to grind quite a few games to get it back. These dropships are just as vulnerable to forgeguns as the regular ones, and tanks can almost one shot it. Dont even get me started on the people who just sit in a rail turret. I think its nice that if i call it in and 3 rail shots wizz by i dont have to loose this very very expensive dropship and i can still go and fight instead of flying circles in the red line because i cant leave the dropship. I can see some peoples frustration in the fact that you dont get a kill on the tank/dropship but please keep in mind that you have still gotten rid of it, and as a dedicated dropship pilot you have denied me my job, but thats ok because i dont have to go grind 20 games for my dropship again. i think this is a fair trade

Players like you are the reason why dust is turning into a terrible game

Someone mentioned it but and it was a good idea. If the vehicle is not at 100% health, then an RDV should deny the pickup.

That seems like too much. I think something more like a timer from the point it last received damage, or a requirement that it be over a certain percentage (like 50% health) for recall. A longer delay on calling a vehicle after a recall would be good too, but keep it so there's no delay on calling after a vehicle is destroyed of course.

All I can think of is that they should add a EWAR equipment that can keep it from being recalled, kinda like the Warp scrambler in EVE. Then, past a certain amount of HP left, say 45% or so, it can't be recalled.


Peace, Aizen

But what kind of HP? Total HP? Shield HP? Armor HP?

Buffer tanks would be the new hotness. Seen a tank with about 9000 total HP. One breach shot may do ~2500 damage(averaged out), need another 4.5 seconds before next hit lands. A sniping tank can easily still back off and recall(Blaster/Missile tanks not so much, sure).

I think it's on it's way, but would still need to be coupled with another mechanic(be it extending the time-to-recall, bring an RDV in, or cancel recall on tank hit)