No, games can gain in popularity over time, like EVE

I don't really expect dramatic changes with the new build. I do expect to see some new features and content. But other than that, manus peak will still be manus peak. Line Harvest will still be line harvest. We are only getting one new game mode.

Planetary Conquest and Faction Warfare should be interesting enough to keep us motivated until the next update. We have new dropsuits and such which will add more variety to the game and customization. Graphics will be better but the maps will still be the same. But they will be new for to new players, if you choose to look at it in that way.

I mean, it isn't going to be a total rehaul and I hope that players are aware of that. I don't want people to expect a totally new game and then find a lot of the old stuff and be heavily disappointed.

This game is barely keeping ahead of defiance -_-. It will be destroyed by destiny. Word of mouth for this game is terrible, even if they do add new content, and make a noticeable connection, the terrible support and improper nerfing and buffing of equipment has utterly destroyed this game.

CCP tried but failed, the MMO elements outscale the FPS elements. You can be as good as you want with your aim, be as clever as you want, but the old, heavy, numnuts will beat the new, nimble, genius, simply because he has more health and hits harder because of the skill system. The only real FPS element in this game is the fact that guns are involved in the damaging process.

FPS are based on personal reflexes, patience, and finding a weapon that suits your playstyle. MMOs are about veterancy and skill allocation. It will not matter if you aim better in dust, nor if you get the jump on your enemy, if youre standard taking on a proto youre ******.

It's ok though, CCP makes enough money to sustain EVE and Dust, so they're doing something right somewhere. Must be more MMO players than FPS players

I hope you're trolling.

I could write a long post on how i disagree with your view of what Will happend to dust, if the Things you mentioned does not happen. But others have had some fine arguments on why you might be wrong and more will come.

what I will say is, maybe you should leave and play that destiny, just cause of that ****** call of duty comment.

I played call of duty since the games came out and played the multiplayer of those games since 2004, even in league's. I can say that the games gone shittier n shittier, so for you to say they developed into better games, I remember really get it and shows how little u know of the cod series

You mean Call of Duty has become worse over time?
Also anything to do with halo is also BS gutter crap.

Dust is a great game I for one, cannot wait for the updates. Best game I have played in years, probably since the days of BF2142 / BF2 (For me personally anyway) Defo best game on consoles #FULLSTOP#

Thinking about the title of the thread...

Maybe all the whiners will go away as they realize this is not going to be a simple clone of other FPS games?

Then, after a few weeks, those of us who aren't looking for an FPS clone will play in peace... well, maybe not peace. ;)

Thinking about the title of the thread...

Maybe all the whiners will go away as they realize this is not going to be a simple clone of other FPS games?

Then, after a few weeks, those of us who aren't looking for an FPS clone will play in peace... well, maybe not peace. ;)

First stages of the beta =/= open beta. This game has been in beta since at least December 2011.

I'd be so grateful if they all went away. Would give CCP a chance to see how their game affects the community without all the petty non-sense from extroverts who's only concern is their extroverted ideals.

Moejoe dropping another logic bomb, only to get ignored by ccp and shitposted at by ccp dickriders. It's been well over a year since the first stages of beta for this game and the changes have been minimal. There's really no hope at this point.

And to all of you higher sp beta tester tuff guys strutting in this thread, are you kidding me? Tell me you're kidding me. Are you seriously going to continue to squad up and fight instant battles just so you can stomp new players? Are you really that pathetic? Did you really just spend the last three months grinding the beta just so you could win agains someone who may have never played the game before? Just sad. Really sad.

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There are currently no games on PS3 to preoccupy time with other than Dust for most of the FPS enthusiasts.

The last of US
Destiny
GTA V
Killzone Shadowfall
BF4

Along with just a host of amazing and great non FPS titles in the pipe will suck out the regular base of players that logon to this game because there is nothing else to play. That will not last much longer, so perhaps you need to get off the CCP is doing everything right bandwagon and wake up.

Its not that you 'aren't looking for a FPS clone'. Its that you ARE looking to play in the 'nerf' world. Looking to exploit the flaws and claim that you have some legitimate skills. Weak. You're peace is in space if you claim that what you have played to this point is fun.

The fate of Dust514 has been determined when CCP decided to make it a Pay2Win model.

It wont work. , not on PS3.

Maybe if the player count is so low in FW i cant find a decent game because of player count/connection issues then yea ill be pubstomping it up if i continue to play at all.


Sorry playing FW or PC matters little if its still the same version of Skirmish i can get in pubs but with a less stable connection or player count.

I can care less about my actions effecting story arc and my owning of territory if the basic gameplay integrity simply isnt enjoyable in pursuit of those venues.

personally i would love to spend my days in FW when not in PC. I have zero desire to go into pubs not even to train new players in our 6 person squads, they will come to FW with us. But if you cant find full matches regularly or if the mathces that are full wind up being with players from all over the world and the connection issues that follow with it is all i see in FW and PC then yea ill pub until Last of US comes out and just wait for destiny.

Go ahead and tell yourself im the minority in this mindset.

This game is barely keeping ahead of defiance -_-. It will be destroyed by destiny. Word of mouth for this game is terrible, even if they do add new content, and make a noticeable connection, the terrible support and improper nerfing and buffing of equipment has utterly destroyed this game.

CCP tried but failed, the MMO elements outscale the FPS elements. You can be as good as you want with your aim, be as clever as you want, but the old, heavy, numnuts will beat the new, nimble, genius, simply because he has more health and hits harder because of the skill system. The only real FPS element in this game is the fact that guns are involved in the damaging process.

FPS are based on personal reflexes, patience, and finding a weapon that suits your playstyle. MMOs are about veterancy and skill allocation. It will not matter if you aim better in dust, nor if you get the jump on your enemy, if youre standard taking on a proto youre ******.

It's ok though, CCP makes enough money to sustain EVE and Dust, so they're doing something right somewhere. Must be more MMO players than FPS players

I agree with most of what you said. At least sort of. This game will need to constantly improve to stay afloat and will need to bring some big wow factor every once in a while to get new players. The last thing we need to do is act like snobs. Snobs can go play EVE Online...

But you forgot a game. That one with the TV show on the Sci Fi channel. I can't remember the name off the top of my head. I seriously can't think of the name. (edit* Defiance that's what it was)

Anyway, it isn't like players only ever play one game at a time. It is going to be possible to play The Last of Us and any other games we want. Maybe not for the first week or so. But players aren't limited to only ever playing one game.

Also, don't underestimate FREE! It would cost me over $300 to play all those games on release in the next half year. I would like to bu I am going to only be able to pick one or two.

Wait a minute...

I'm getting my butt kicked all the time and I don't care. I'm not worried about any KDR, exploiting flaws, or any other nonsense on your list. I've never once tried to claim I was any good.

Did you read the thread?

Excellent OP.

Really sums it up in such a succinct manner.

Still can't believe how many people can't understand the simple fact that having any kind of statistical advantage in an FPS is extremely bad for the balance of the game.

The only deciding factor should be player skill/aim.

Of course, you gotta have something to entice people to pony up for that Aurum eh?

In order for this game to not get shredded by reviews (both formal and through word-of-mouth) and automatically fail on release (these initial reviews will stick with the game for years to come as reviewers almost never give a second chance even after major updates), the following absolutely must happen:

-Smoother terrain navigation (not getting stuck on hills or against walls)
-Gunplay smoothed out (improving the god-awful framerate and sluggish controls/animations)
-New players given a fighting chance (adding a hands-on tutorial and nerfing certain upper-tier equipment/skills for fairness)
-One of the following: A meaningful connection with EVE Online that the average player would easily be able to notice and appreciate, OR a huge stockpile of new content (including at least multiple new maps and multiple new game modes) to keep the game from getting stale (imagine if all COD had was 2 TDM and 2 Domination variants).

The above is the absolute bare minimum that Dust 514 needs to get by. If any of this is missing I would be preparing to abandon ship and maybe come back a year or two down the line after the game gets a rebranding and you have a crapload of passive SP to spend.

I hear Bungie is looking for beta testers for Destiny.

And Call of Duty has gotten pretty good over the years.