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Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 485	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:18:00 - [121] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. If you wanted to be generous with the "active" player base you added two extra zeros. 2,500 is a realistic number. How else do you explain playing the same people, getting thrown on Asia and EU servers, and huge lag spikes? The only thing this game has going for it is that it is free! Ah, Zitro. Just the person. You're probably the poster-child of this question. Why are you still here? It's an honest question, I genuinely want to know why you're still here when (according to you and others) CCP has done so much wrong. Do you stop at something you are good at? Sorry you wouldn't know that feeling So serious question why are you still here?
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:21:00 - [122] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. If you wanted to be generous with the "active" player base you added two extra zeros. 2,500 is a realistic number. How else do you explain playing the same people, getting thrown on Asia and EU servers, and huge lag spikes? The only thing this game has going for it is that it is free! Ah, Zitro. Just the person. You're probably the poster-child of this question. Why are you still here? It's an honest question, I genuinely want to know why you're still here when (according to you and others) CCP has done so much wrong. Do you stop at something you are good at? Sorry you wouldn't know that feeling So serious question why are you still here? It's probably because he actually LIKES the game, an CCP (Can you believe that? Unreal right?!) Whereas you...Kinda stomp on their nuts for any given reason. We've never talked but...I'm pretty sure you'd blame CCP for global warming if you could.
Beast Beastlington Bragian Order Amarr Empire 241	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:22:00 - [123] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: lmao I DISTINCTLY remember seeing an interview with a CCP rep who said they wanted Dust to be as accessible as COD or BF. But no, lets make the game really tough to get into so we'll make less money. It's the perfect business strategy. There are some serious nuthuggers on this forum. I'm just gonna say this...You seem to not like the game, or even the idea of it. You've listed games you believe to be superior (BF 2142 or whatever the title is.) So why not...I dunno know...Play any of those? Not telling you to leave or insulting you or anything, just curious... I think it could be a great game. I don't hate Dust...it's just a game. I'd love to see it be a big success.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:25:00 - [124] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Kiro Justice wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: lmao I DISTINCTLY remember seeing an interview with a CCP rep who said they wanted Dust to be as accessible as COD or BF. But no, lets make the game really tough to get into so we'll make less money. It's the perfect business strategy. There are some serious nuthuggers on this forum. I'm just gonna say this...You seem to not like the game, or even the idea of it. You've listed games you believe to be superior (BF 2142 or whatever the title is.) So why not...I dunno know...Play any of those? Not telling you to leave or insulting you or anything, just curious... I think it could be a great game. I don't hate Dust...it's just a game. I'd love to see it be a big success. Here's hoping it is.
Furrow33 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:27:00 - [125] - Quote Wicked Glory wrote: hooc roht wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: Moejoe dropping another logic bomb, only to get ignored by ccp and shitposted at by ccp dickriders. It's been well over a year since the first stages of beta for this game and the changes have been minimal. There's really no hope at this point. Open beta started in January. lets see: January February March April May 14th That is 5 months.... Really less then 4 months as it came out in late January and comes out of beta in mid May but i will give you those two months for calculation purposes. Since when is 5 months "well over a year"? First stages of the beta =/= open beta. This game has been in beta since at least December 2011. Yeah i dont know where that dude was but i paid $20 for the honor to get in on closed beta for this last summer! Im glad this isnt cod. I hate that crap.
Furrow33 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:33:00 - [126] - Quote 54rffv wrote: undeadsoldier90 wrote: Funny thing is im sure most of us closed beta vets could care less if we pub stomp noobs.... I remember when we didnt even have squads...... I remember when every game I played was against the dust elite. I want those days back, I want to fight good people every single game. I want to face imps,pfbhz, not guilty, stb, hellstorm.... I want to have battles that have you sitting on the edge of your chair screaming at your TV.... I want to look at the scoreboard and smile because both teams are stacked and this battle is going to be a good one. So I say if you dont like dust GTFO. If you are crying about getting stomped by people who have 11m sp GTFO. If your crying about the game being to complicated seriously GTFO. I want that challenge back from closed beta... I want my adrenaline to pump as I shoot it out with good players.... So all you "noob friendly nerf proto" people need to leave. Im sure most of us could care less if all the noobs left and dust was full of vets again. You obviously dont get the point.....the absence of a matchmaker/training/pve will kill the game because the majority of NEW players are what pay CCP $$$$$. While the pub stomping wanna b elite players dont pay $$$ for this game because they have 10mil sp. therefore attitudes like yours go about pub stomping and killing off the majority player base and capitol for CCP telling everyone to GTFO and get guud. Cmon man Survival of the fittest doesn't work with a player base on a console fps with attention spans < a nat. Is this game going to be supported by elite eve fanbois? No because they dont pay $$$$. If they all GTFO then there will be no $$$$, do you understand now? I only have 4 mill sp and i do fine. not in kdr but in warpoints as a logi. Im not a great fpser so i did what they call adapt or die.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 485	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:53:00 - [127] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. If you wanted to be generous with the "active" player base you added two extra zeros. 2,500 is a realistic number. How else do you explain playing the same people, getting thrown on Asia and EU servers, and huge lag spikes? The only thing this game has going for it is that it is free! Ah, Zitro. Just the person. You're probably the poster-child of this question. Why are you still here? It's an honest question, I genuinely want to know why you're still here when (according to you and others) CCP has done so much wrong. Do you stop at something you are good at? Sorry you wouldn't know that feeling So serious question why are you still here? It's probably because he actually LIKES the game, an CCP (Can you believe that? Unreal right?!) Whereas you...Kinda stomp on their nuts for any given reason. We've never talked but...I'm pretty sure you'd blame CCP for global warming if you could. I like the idea, what this game WAS, and hoping maybe this game might be good one day. Blaming them for global warming, really kid? Stop drinking drano, and pay attention. They MADE this game, so I can complain about how they cater to you carebears all I want I didn't even know Tritan was still around
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 140	Posted - 2013.04.29 00:21:00 - [128] - Quote low genius wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: undeadsoldier90 wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. Their you go again using logic..... stop it. Your going to make peoples brains hurt icy. How many are still active? You really think 250,000 are still online and playing regularly thats cute. A FPS that has a regular base of active in the thousands doesnt last. sImply cause matchimaking will fail to find players and create full matches in the same region. People stick around because the new build was announced and people decided to eat the grind to have SP for it. Once this goes commercial on 5/14 the its a beta excuse goes out the window. Withi it any protections it might have, if content isn't added a quicker pace over the next 6 months much of the base falls. If the game doesnt find a way to get new players in and having fun without a burdensome grind or at least make the grind fun by reducing the severity of veteran pubstomp. Fact is the majority of players who have this undying faith in CCP and their vision happen to be people who play EVE or are simply so thirst travesing the desert that is the modern gaming industry they will drink the sand they believe to be water. However that is a small number at best and not entirely the type of player that CCP will want to sustain this game. Again if thats the mindset and type of player they wanted why isn't this game on PC? ccp doesn't give two kittens if a bunch of softcore console gamers quit dust. this game will be geared towards people who don't QQ their little asses off on the forums. people who see the grand design behind what they do. people who do not want another pos shooter like cod or battlefield, or whatever else you want to throw in there. in fact, ccp INTENDS to make this game too hard for the people who cry when they don't get exactly what they want in the 'next build'. because those people are uneducated in the ways of the eve gods. the eve gods are firm, but fair. and if you have to deal with your favorite weapon being trash for 3 or six months, then deal with it or get a new weapon. when life gives you lemons, you shut up and eat your damn lemons. the more beta grinders that quit, the better the opportunity for the next class. So why were dropsuits, weapons, tanks and everything else nerfed between the tiers? Why did everyone choose option 2 instead of 5 when it came time to choose a temporary SP system until rollover is implemented? Its quite pathetic how ppl talk about how this game doesnt cater to the softcore casual yet at every turn you whiny lil carebear crybabies whined and moaned to prevent these things from coming to frution. But talk about advancing FPS ideals of gameplay balance or things like and you evetards come flyiing in desperate to keep the game as you see it should be. As i said the evetards will continue to ruin this game into nothigness. But tell yourself it will do just fine on console. Still haven't answered if the market they wanted is the one you suggest why not PC? Console market is different and we know it. Hardcore console and hardcore FPS is not hardcore MMO sooner you philistines realize it the better off this game will be.
Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 78	Posted - 2013.04.29 00:33:00 - [129] - Quote Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Its quite pathetic how ppl talk about how this game doesnt cater to the softcore casual yet at every turn you whiny lil carebear crybabies whined and moaned to prevent these things from coming to frution. I'm not following your logic...
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 195	Posted - 2013.04.29 00:40:00 - [130] - Quote Dust will be fine on release. It's the lack of proper testing of Planetary Conquest that I'm worried about. We still have no PvE Dust side for private resource building... I'm not sure how that's going to translate well in the long term for alliances to challenge whatever alliance emerges as dominant after the initial PC Wars.

Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 142	Posted - 2013.04.29 01:03:00 - [131] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Its quite pathetic how ppl talk about how this game doesnt cater to the softcore casual yet at every turn you whiny lil carebear crybabies whined and moaned to prevent these things from coming to frution. I'm not following your logic... People didnt want option 5 which had an unlimted soft cap only restricted by 1WP=1SP. Many ppl complained it would create too large a SP gap(sounds like a casual/carebear excuse to me) with power grinders creating large gaps and that the cap is needed to prevent people reaching max characters too soon. Nevermind that the excuse is worhtless on a few levels First many of the MMO players threw back HTFU and its a MMO to all the new players that talked about the SP gap b/w vets and new players in pubs but in the same breath voiced down that option. Moreover they said that SP gaps are irrelevant since characters grow wider not taller and after 4-8M SP it really doesnt matter if you spend it right and specialize. Second it never allowed for unrestricted growth but only served as a throttle with 1wp=1sp. People argued that you could still earn the 3-4K WP mark in skirmish however to do so actually requires people to play and use tanks and other things. Answer me this if ppl could grind soft cap like that how much more skirmish matches do you think people would be playing right now instead of AFKing in an effort to power grind? The weapons/suit nerfs go against MMO but does lil to solve the issue of passives, a better solution would have been gear or meta level restriction based on security status of matches making pub matches the Dust equivalent of EVE highsec. Of course people argued that ISK payout would restrict well enough especially with the gear flattening. In this regard both the FPS and the MMO failed because the FPS players wanted gear to not be a deciding factor but they also wanted to have the ability to take basic gear and be able to jump into higher level games in eventual FW and the like this was around Nov-Jan. Moreover we know from nullsec sov and Titans what happens when you try to use ISK as a deterrant So yea carebears on both sides who have no clue what they are talking about screwed up the game and made it worse /discussion.
Icy Tiger Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 1281	Posted - 2013.04.29 01:10:00 - [132] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. If you wanted to be generous with the "active" player base you added two extra zeros. 2,500 is a realistic number. How else do you explain playing the same people, getting thrown on Asia and EU servers, and huge lag spikes? The only thing this game has going for it is that it is free! Ah, Zitro. Just the person. You're probably the poster-child of this question. Why are you still here? It's an honest question, I genuinely want to know why you're still here when (according to you and others) CCP has done so much wrong. Do you stop at something you are good at? Sorry you wouldn't know that feeling So serious question why are you still here? lol. I'm here for 3 reasons. 1. I see potential. This game could be big, and based on what I've heard of EVE it will live up to the potential. 2. Whenever I play other games now, I see no meaning. There's nothing to do once you've gotten to the highest level, or killed the most people. In Dust, even if you're the best, there's rivalry. 3. It gives me the opportunity to kill ******* like you
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 486	Posted - 2013.04.29 01:26:00 - [133] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Beast. I said 3 months ago, that Dust would fail if an update didn't come out in the next week. I said the same thing last year. Apparently, people care enough about a Beta to play it for about a year, more or less. I'm not saying that you're wrong. But something must've been done right. http://dustboard.com/global About 2 million accounts made. Lets say 75% is gone, and 50% of the remainder are alts. Still about 250 000. Not bad. If you wanted to be generous with the "active" player base you added two extra zeros. 2,500 is a realistic number. How else do you explain playing the same people, getting thrown on Asia and EU servers, and huge lag spikes? The only thing this game has going for it is that it is free! Ah, Zitro. Just the person. You're probably the poster-child of this question. Why are you still here? It's an honest question, I genuinely want to know why you're still here when (according to you and others) CCP has done so much wrong. Do you stop at something you are good at? Sorry you wouldn't know that feeling So serious question why are you still here? lol. I'm here for 3 reasons. 1. I see potential. This game could be big, and based on what I've heard of EVE it will live up to the potential. 2. Whenever I play other games now, I see no meaning. There's nothing to do once you've gotten to the highest level, or killed the most people. In Dust, even if you're the best, there's rivalry. 3. It gives me the opportunity to kill ******* like you Lol 1. A game living off hope and dreams 2. I see no meaning in you playing too! Wow we agree on something 3. You have goals that's cute, but it's not hard to kill me. Try beating me noob
Rigor Mordis Imperial Populicide Legion 27	Posted - 2013.04.29 05:57:00 - [134] - Quote I think most of the concern from the 'casual carebear' is valid. The REAL bottlefed babies are the ones trying to shout down valid points and claiming that everything is being ''nerfed'' DUST IS NERF These people regurgitate every lame ass excuse to defend obvious flaws and weaknesses in this build. Nobody who REALLY wants this thing to get/be better wants it to be a clone of another game. There are those who do, but for the most part people use references and comparisons to the other games for different reasons. Most of which is because they know that those are the best games in the genre. They know that those games have a proven model for success. Every one of us (from ps3) is here participating in the beta because we are always looking for different and better games. Most are on the forum because it is a beta and they feel that it could change a little bit for the better. --Spawn mechanics/locations, and a Starter/Militia/SP tiered, alternative for the brand newbies. That right there is two valid subjects that could help eliminate the gross imbalance, make it a more strategical fight, and help eliminate AFK due to pubstomp boredom.-- If you are against even a discussion on those 2 subjects, then you are definitely a gutless wimp. Those who take shots at those other games and the people who play them, are likely the ones that like DUST because it is ''nerf''. Those are the people who likely suck at the games that they take shots at, or they are too scared to 'grind it' in those titles because those titles are too intense for minds that want to play sim city without the city. Those same people are the ones exploiting weaknesses and glitches while claiming that its intense and competitive gameplay. Those people are either delusional, or just liars. You can't just sit around and say that CCP is 'nerfing' all of the weapons when in fact they are not. And, you can't ''nerf'' anything in a game that is already ''nerf'' in itself. We're all going to see where it heads after the launch on the 6th. I am confident that we are all going to be happy with the content and SOME of the fixes. However, I am not confident that the basic dynamic of spawn rushing/sniping and 'blob warfare' will change in any way. This is judging from the attitudes and wishes of those who are favored by the mods and don't have enough testicular fortitude to admit that they are cheap glitchers.
DeeJay One BetaMax. CRONOS. 16	Posted - 2013.04.30 08:04:00 - [135] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: How else do you explain playing the same people You play against the same set of people, because matchmaking actually works?
xSynnx x Requiem of Shadows DEADSPACE SOCIETY 0	Posted - 2013.04.30 09:36:00 - [136] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: 1. Making DUST 514 newbie friendly isn't how New Eden works. Sure, the tutorials should be improved, but nerfing higher tier weapons isn't going to solve the problem. This isn't a shooter like COD or Battlefield where anyone can pick up a gun and do decent against the most experienced players. This is an MMO, you can argue all you about the MMO term, but the fact remains that DUST remains connected to EVE Online, and thus some of it's rules apply here too.A frigate can never withstand a chance against a battleship or a titan, and you should never use anything you can not afford to lose. What matters is tactics, get some friends to team up with you and you won't be so helpless against the proto players. le sigh.... a frigate can indeed kill a BS. in fact id see a BS hard pressed to even hit the frigate. i could provide you with examples and killboard links but im tired. and comparing a frigate to a BS or titan is dumb anyway. compare it to what it closely resembles, T1 vs T2, and yes T1 can kill T2. its not that hard. oh and not flying what you cant afford to lose is more of a common sense thing then a "rule". agree with everything after the bold.
Rigor Mordis Imperial Populicide Legion 29	Posted - 2013.05.01 11:29:00 - [137] - Quote @xSynnx_x That sounds like it makes sense out there. Down here its nothing of the sort. Depending on weapon specialties and head to head matchups between them, its all jacked up if one is claiming all of the RPG/time investment arguments. Vehicles aside, there are a few weapons at meta 1 or 0 that can overcome or outplay meta 5 gear without too much of a problem. I think most would say that shotguns, forge guns, and of course sniper rifles would qualify. This naturally depends on a number of factors. I personally haven't gotten around to the mass driver yet, but I would imagine that it is similar. Shotguns, in most shooters, are always OHKO type weapons that its only real disadvantage is range. The way DUST is set up, I really think the Shotties are a pretty balanced class in comparison to ''mid-range'' weapons. Most everyone know that a grenade launcher is the FPS ''noob tube''. I think that forge guns are just fancier ''noob tubes''. Low level sniper rifles can't really mess with high meta SRs at prescribed distance but they can of course mess with everyone else. One might have to unload their entire lw capacity into the target, but the job can be done. Swarm Launchers are not in here because they generally have no effect against high level vehicles until level 3 and they are still rather weak. SLs are all but useless against infantry and their ''missiles'' travel so slow that they are easilt outran by any decent pilot or driver.
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 35	Posted - 2013.05.01 12:09:00 - [138] - Quote op's arguement failed when he mentioned cod.
Stevez WingYip Lumodynamics Power Control Corp Panda Cave 18	Posted - 2013.05.01 13:21:00 - [139] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I could have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with it, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. ******** attitude. You would not be saying this if you were the one who was in my position. Saving for ages to get a ps3 to play this game, and wasn't able to play.
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 865	Posted - 2013.05.01 13:40:00 - [140] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: I'm pretty sure you'd blame CCP for global warming if you could. I can and I do... I'm tired of CCP dumping it's digital waste into the Norwegian Sea. Think of all the fuel that was wasted flying those fat nerds to Iceland for FF and the mark on the environment said nerds left. WE DOOMED!

EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 261	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:31:00 - [141] - Quote I like the concept of the game and at least what its trying to do. Kinda why I still play it. lol looks like wicked glory still posts but doesnt play? then why post?
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 261	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:36:00 - [142] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: 3. You have goals that's cute, but it's not hard to kill me. Try beating me noob So you mean to say when I kill you I cant post it all over the forums and ask Guinness book of world records to put a plaque in the Smithsonian? Icy Tiger: The person to kill Mr. Zitro once in dust
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 146	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:47:00 - [143] - Quote The Loathing wrote: Really? Destiny and CoD threats from a member of the Imps? Come on, CCP know you are not going anywhere. :D What's wrong with destiny? It looks good cod has gone pretty far downhill though
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 153	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:05:00 - [144] - Quote Everyone know that this is the only chance Dust 514 have! No other game evolved with time, we all know that. They all come crystal clean polished and ready !
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 106	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:20:00 - [145] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain.
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 167	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:35:00 - [146] - Quote BursegSardaukar wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. Scanners detect neckbeard fanboi. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC? Did you buy a PS3 just for dust too, its okay we know many of you neckbeards did
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 106	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:44:00 - [147] - Quote Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: BursegSardaukar wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. Scanners detect neckbeard fanboi. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC? Did you buy a PS3 just for dust too, its okay we know many of you neckbeards did CCP didn't want to cannibalize their existing fan base, or so they claim. I'm fairly convinced back room deals were made with lots of money exchanged, I'm not sure why anyone would develop a shooter for a console to be completely honest. At least they have KB/M support. And yup, PS3 just for Dust, TV as well. Didn't have much use for either before. I also keep my neckbeard tightly braided, it can pass as a necktie.
Pris Straton Rosen Association 0	Posted - 2013.05.01 16:04:00 - [148] - Quote Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: BursegSardaukar wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. Scanners detect neckbeard fanboi. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC? Did you buy a PS3 just for dust too, its okay we know many of you neckbeards did What are you going to say when Dust comes out on the PC? It will eventually.
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 168	Posted - 2013.05.01 16:17:00 - [149] - Quote BursegSardaukar wrote: CCP didn't want to cannibalize their existing fan base, or so they claim. I'm fairly convinced back room deals were made with lots of money exchanged, I'm not sure why anyone would develop a shooter for a console to be completely honest. At least they have KB/M support. And yup, PS3 just for Dust, TV as well. Didn't have much use for either before. I also keep my neckbeard tightly braided, it can pass as a necktie. That right there is why you fail to understand the larger part of this community. Many not all are shooter players who have evolved from CS 1.6 on PC to console shooters as far back as Goldeneye and have evolved and matured with the genre as they grew older. For them they love the genre and they love it on console because they like playing it on a large television on their couch laying back after a long hard day of work or school. To them shooting ppl in the face is their destress mechanism. They cam to Dust not because it was going to be another generic shooter. But becuase of the promise of the next evolution in the genre. PERSISTANCE. That the actions and decisions they make have meaningful impact, after all whats the point of playing virtual soldier if your skill and proficiency of your actions are meaningless beyond a statistic on a board? That said they still expect a fluid and ultimately enjoable shooter experience. They dont forgive poor gameplay for the promise of a persistant world. The console market is different from the PC market. You EVE players think you have the market cornered on persistance and player driven content. Im telling you don't count your chickens before they hatch. Shooter devs are catching on that persistance and acttions/consequence is the next step in the genre. Dust has the headstart on that aspect of the game but they are novices at the core of the genre which is the gameplay of the shooter itself. If the other shooter devs (Bungie being the most clear example) can create that feel of persistance and actions/consequence in a game that delivers a quality shooter experience, watch the MAG and other hardcore shooter players many of whom flocked to this game migrate and go and with it your playerbase tank. Once that happens good luck finding matches, Good luck ever getting this game past 16v16 because it will never happen. You need numbers to support it and while the model you say worked well in EVE, EVE in on PC and DUST is on console two different mindset of players. TL;DR By your own admission that you dont understand why a dev would develop a shooter on console is clear indication you don't understand the majority of this base. We didnt come here for just another shooter experience, but we damn well expect that in addition to all the unique things Dust can offer. BUt fail to meet us on the shooter experience we wil go play another one until a game can deliver that experience and the persistance. Perhaps those players can explain that a bit better but the fact you fail to understand us and assume we will just stay because CCP is awesome and you have "faith" is short sighted because again as a person who at the core seems to be a "PC master race" kind of guy dont understand the console player mind. I do and many other in here do. We dont want a bland vanilla shooter. Put it succintly we'd like some hardcore shooter with our NEW EDEN HTFU, Player driven content persistance please.
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.01 16:19:00 - [150] - Quote Pris Straton wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: BursegSardaukar wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped. TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. Scanners detect neckbeard fanboi. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC? Did you buy a PS3 just for dust too, its okay we know many of you neckbeards did What are you going to say when Dust comes out on the PC? It will eventually. Before or after they make it a AAA shooter on PS3 and upgrade it for PS4? So 2015, 2016? Will the game still have a base to drive the instanced matchmaking?



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