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ok guys you know that if they really didn't like dust then they wouldn't be playing it, all these guys are, is 1 big troll

The worst part of the whole deal is that after the shiny wears off we will have a dip in numbers and when the new expansion comes out they will all cry for a repec and extra SP because the vets are too hardcore and they can't catch up.

New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I could have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with it, now prepare to get stomped.

TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it.

Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC?

We like the concept of Dust. A shooter experience in an evolving persistant world where there is action and consequence.

The fatal mistake in fanboi thinking is that New Eden and by extension Dust is the only universe that will exist in the coming decade that will allow for this concept.

With PS4 it is already becoming self evident that gameing and game development is moving more towards social gaming. That means creating communities that will travel in spheres from game to game as the bonds between players become more solidified. This already exists in gaming clans.

Shooter developers are catching on to this concept and looking to hybrid the shooter genre with the persistent world model of MMO/RPG.


Defiance was one iteration of this but its a PVE game so its already meh just becuase. But dont think for a second defiance didnt have cool concepts that pushed the iteration of a Shooter MMO forward.

Note how i put shooter first because that is the genre that is the most popular on console and the most lucrative market to tap into.

Destiny though we know nothing much of it. i can assure you will be the competitor of Dust. If it allows for all the persistance, intrigue, plotting and action/consequence that Dust provide in a more polished enjoyable shooter experience the sails will get sucked out of Dust because the shooter hardcore move in waves and pockets.

The shooter vets in here are mostly MAG vets but also play BF, COD, Uncharted, KZ, Socom, R;FOM and more. They all came here because they are ready for that next evolution in shooters :PERSISTANCE and the feel that actions matter.


But if DUST fails to deliver on the shooter experience then no amount of persistance will matter to them. They will leave and not come back. And there will be competitors that will fill this gap. To bury your head in the sand and blindly put faith into any corporation is simply being foolish and dismissive of a population you may not fully understand.

And in a instanced lobby shooter game once player counts drop low enough the stability of matches suffer as the game has to stretch over the globe to populate the games and you get incredible lag and rubber banding. In fact thats is already happening so you may want to consider that in your analysis before saying this game is doing fine and will be just okay because EVE did it so can Dust. EVE had a niche to grow in without competition for quite some time, not many Spaceship MMOs when it dropped.

Plenty of FPS and soon in the coming year(s) plenty of persistant world FPS MMOs will be developed; its simply the next evolution of the genre.

Let me remind you with this.
Then to some argument making

1. Making DUST 514 newbie friendly isn't how New Eden works. Sure, the tutorials should be improved, but nerfing higher tier weapons isn't going to solve the problem. This isn't a shooter like COD or Battlefield where anyone can pick up a gun and do decent against the most experienced players. This is an MMO, you can argue all you about the MMO term, but the fact remains that DUST remains connected to EVE Online, and thus some of it's rules apply here too. A frigate can never withstand a chance against a battleship or a titan, and you should never use anything you can not afford to lose. What matters is tactics, get some friends to team up with you and you won't be so helpless against the proto players.

2. CCP is already adding a King of the hill gamemode to Uprising, along with several new weapons and dropsuits plus a complete reimbursment of SP and the ISK spent on the said skills.

3. Dooming a game is always dumb, if you really think that a set of arbitrary goals will make or break a game in this case, then you obviously have never played EVE Online. Do us a favor and just leave already, we don't like Imps anyway.+¦

I have never played EVE. I found it randomly while searching for what creative, limit pushing game devs were doing in the PC world. I read about its history , development , LONGEVITY and beautiful concept of letting gammers game.....no restrictions yet serious consequences. Best long term game concept I had ever imagined. But alas i game console....so hello DUST. I appreciate everything CCP has attempted so far and will support DUST as it grows. If you want to know whats possible in DUST just look what EVE has done in 10years. Its about the relationships, alliances, character building and yes fighting, griefing, pirates and espionage. But where the hell else in a game can you plot for years and pull off a huge heist involving game money real money and 100's of people. Or a world war started because some dude hit the wrong mouse key ( Battle of Asaki)
Just Google it..the PC gamer report is a good one for the noobs. Or we could run around on small maps killing each other for a KDR.
I know consloles cant do what the PCs can do ...but the point is...these are the same guys and I like their track record.

In order for this game .

Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years.

Then, Let's wait for tomorrow