lol dude. that's what Assaults did to EVERYONE else. lmao

they couldn't hang against niche game, and cried for everything to be controlled.

"Too many sniper perches!"
"Maps are too big!"
"Heavies are too hard to kill!"

You name it.

It is indeed overpowered, but for corp battles for instance, where everyone is using top notch weapons, it wouldn't be that bad. The problem is when you use that suit against pugs...then it's just uneven.

I say we take that extra shield and give it to the poor scout

flux grenades are not an argument, because a regular grenade pretty much does the same.

You obviously don't use the suit...

I can be inside a regular grenades radius at the outer edge of it and take moderate damage to my shields, i cannot be inside the ridiculous huge sized radius of a Flux grenade and keep any shields, they are all gone.

against militia grenades thrown by someone that does not know how to cook it.

now get an advanced grenade properly cooked into the face and your shields are gone too. problem? even a militia one properly cooked will leave a proto assault with small amount of shields left despite the damage penalty against shields.

If you're ANYWHERE AT ALL in the Flux radius, shields are gone. If you're near the edge of the MUCH SMALLER radius of even a Prototype grenade, a well-tanked suit can still have shields left.

Properly cooked or not, direct hit or not, wide enough to be a clean miss for a regular grenade or not, Flux Grenades eat shields.

No the shield are not too high

Stop trying to make everything easy to kill

Back when ther was a difference between milita/basic/adv and proto the game was better because ppl aimed to get that best suit instead of sticking around basic and being able to kill the proto guy because the suit got nerfed so its easier for you to kill him instead of it being about you and your skill and tactical advantage to kill him

I liked the hp/pg/cpu and slot difference between each suit, i hope that you whiners dont moan about the suit bonuses added to suits in uprising you have already dumbed this game down enough

problem is the other type II suits are on par with the type II variations in performance and all of them have a purpose. heavy if you are going full armor with a proto logi with proto armor repair and revive tool, scout if you want extra speed, logi if you want to have extra equipment slot. assault? oh look, alot less EHP, slower speed, less fittings... no thanks, pls rot in the sever assault type I. the type II has serious balance flaws.

what is your point again? that flux are great against shields? I think everyone knows that. also your argument is quite flawed, cause according to your logic I might aswell say, I point a laser against a drop suit for half a second, his shields are gone, I point my sniper against a scout suit he is gone, or even better I point my forge gun against any suit and the suit is gone... better remove everything from the game cause it kills people

and absolutely no one prevents an assault to use armor plates at all. also how often do you actually can use flux grenades without hitting yourself or with the target just sitting it out behind cover? quite situational isnt it?

because you cant fit proto HP and damage mods on proto suits and on regular stuff you easily can, right?

The point was that, against a shield-tanked suit, Flux Grenades are a solid counter, and regular grenades are NOT. You HAVE to land a PERFECT hit with a regular grenade just to crack the shields. With a Flux, just having the grenade in the right general vicinity is good enough.

And if you're catching yourself in the Flux area, you either suck (and wouldn't be able to land a well-cooked regular grenade anyway) or you're running a heavily armour-tanked suit that doesn't care about the tiny shield loss in comparison with your target losing 2/3 of their EHP instantly.

I'm not going to deny that you play well, but you're very bad at this "having a valid point" thing. You should work on that, since you obviously don't need to work on your gun game.

EDIT: Changed to "having a valid point" because it's more accurate.

Its easy to make a basic gank fit with a gek if you want

Its too eays now, sure proto may give you a bit of extra life not like in the old days where it assured you had a long life spam and were harder to take down because you earned that ****

Everything got a nerf to help players kill each other because it was too hard

lol so the due fire finally comes to the assault role, for it to burn justly.

karma is a kitten.

Assault shield defense should max at a even 400 HP. Not a drop more.
BUT...
I stated a long time before, that it's function needs to be more "adaptive" (in line with its role), and less "capacitive" (which is the Heavy's role).

Max out the Assault's shields at 400, and allow their shields to "adapt" (automatically and/or manually) to the type of weapons fire they are getting hit by or anticipate getting hit by.

50% increase in shield resistance to whatever type of weapon is hitting them, and can only adapt to one weapon type at a time.
Example: They know someone with a thale's has a solution on them. They can switch up to an anti-hybrid shield mode, and cut damage received by 50%. Or if they know an HMG is around the corner, they can switch to anti-kinetic shield mode. But if they are caught in the wrong defensive mode as weapon's fire comes in, they will take full damage until the suit attempts to adapt on its own, which could prove to be fatal.

if all the other type II suits would work the same by getting more HP, more speed and more fittings, then it wouldnt be a problem.

just because flux counters shields does not mean that type II assault balance isnt flawed.
1. everything has counters.
2. shields are part of everyones defense and important for everyone. the only suit that does not really care about getting hit by flux is a type I heavy cause the heavies majority of hp come from armor.
3. as already mentioned all other type II suits get something to specialize but have drawbacks. the type II assault does not have any drawback for having more HP, more fittings and more speed. the type II assault also leaves a huge gap in performance to the scout which is why all the scout & heavy players are actually unsatisfied. if all the other type II suits would work the same by getting more HP, more speed and more fittings, then it wouldnt be a problem.

because you cant fit proto HP and damage mods on proto suits and on regular stuff you easily can, right?

Its easy to make a basic gank fit with a gek if you want

Its too eays now, sure proto may give you a bit of extra life not like in the old days where it assured you had a long life spam and were harder to take down because you earned that ****

just because flux counters shields does not mean that type II assault balance isnt flawed.
1. everything has counters.
2. shields are part of everyones defense and important for everyone. the only suit that does not really care about getting hit by flux is a type I heavy cause the heavies majority of hp come from armor.
3. as already mentioned all other type II suits get something to specialize but have drawbacks. the type II assault does not have any drawback for having more HP, more fittings and more speed. the type II assault also leaves a huge gap in performance to the scout & heavy (esp. heavy at adv. and proto level) which is why all the scout & heavy players are actually unsatisfied. if all the other type II suits would work the same by getting more HP, more speed and more fittings, then it wouldnt be a problem.

as a heavy , i agree about this tread ,but if assault can get 500 or more shield , it unfair for heavies , for one they can run away and recharge while heavies can't run and slow recharge , like rabbit & turtle race *
i know 6/10 that every time i face assault , unlike scout they give a go with shotties, knifes, etc , when they got half the damage health like mine , they run away easy and come back fully charge health while mine is still recharging , most of the time, assault knew that i has to reload the hmg , they come at me at the right time, i bet all heavies knew that, most of us heavies has to hide or wait until it clear to reload the hmg,

ps as a heavy i want 700-800 shield and low armour like 300-400 . why not !

I think ccp should balance the suits , all of them

Maybe you should find a logi to hide behind you and rep you then you fool (or cower near a supply depot so you can swap out) rather than thinking you can take on the world with your ridiculous HMG!!!

funny you say that, i am mostly at ambush where there no supply depot and logi do come every now and then, i am talking about RELOADING the HMG , not HEALING

Dude, you need a lil loving but I'm sure May 6th is going to see a huge nerf hammer come and hit us all again in new and unexpected ways.

I really feel that at this point any nerf/buff threads are just too darn pointless, next build is going to be a different game.

flux grenades are not an argument, because a regular grenade pretty much does the same.

its not hard, a guy from PSU.com has one. I was in his squad recently and was shocked to see it.

shield control level 5, 3 complex extenders.................................the sad part? he still has room for a complex damage mod.

the question is, is it easier to buff all the other suits or add a downside to the type 2? thats easy, you modify one rather than change all the others. less time too.

GNN you obviously do not know what you're talking about.

Do the math and you will realize how stupid that example was.