I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.

Omg the lulz

I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.

Omg the lulz

Retribution at this stage would be a really lame move.

lol I have enough non afk matches to beat my afk matchs so wouldn't takes much sp away. no reason to punish those who know the mechanics and exploit them.

OH noooo there's a list!??!!!

Curious to see if this list is published here on the forums. Pretty sure it violates the terms of use.

Threaten, harass, "stalk", abuse, slander, defame or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

^ without proof, I'm pretty sure it's slander :P

OH noooo there's a list!??!!!

Curious to see if this list is published here on the forums. Pretty sure it violates the terms of use.

Threaten, harass, "stalk", abuse, slander, defame or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

^ without proof, I'm pretty sure it's slander :P

Because AFK farming isn't equally or more lame

FYP

Because taking time off from improving the game to spite players that found an exploit in their poorly designed game isn't equally or more lame.

exploit is just a mean way to say it, like rail tanks exploiting their range over other tanks or exploiting the use of fuse nades to throw volleges when at supply depots. it sounds bad when it really isn't when you look at it.

I don't think it's slander to put a game identity on a list for AFKing... nor do I think game identities need to be concerned about privacy with respect to public in-game actions.

Previous lists of AFK players have been locked for being stupid.

Who else has received this message in game. I literally laughed my ass off. I am now on a official AFK list.

Is there a special bar i can enter because of this. A little VIP club. What does this give me. :)

If they consider it an exploit, they've had long enough to say so.

IMO, it would be an exploit if it was a theoretically solid design with an oversight in it.

This isn't a solid design, it's a design which blatantly rewards lack of effort. That's on them.

I love how people still try to justify it to themselves, instead of just admitting how lame they are.

This game, I'm tellin' ya.

I think the problem your having is that we aren't "justifying" it, it's perfectly fine with me, your the only one that's calling it a bad thing. If CCP starts rewarding us for playing the game MORE than just being in the game, I will stop AFKing.

Rail tanks are working as intended, so are supply depots.

Please ignite your strawman as I would like to roast marshmallows while sniping (which sadly isn't working as intended, damn shield flash)

I love how people still try to justify it to themselves, instead of just admitting how lame they are.

This game, I'm tellin' ya.

It was me who sent the messages on an Alt of mine. If I catch you AFKing.Farming in the MCC like a p@ssified B#tch, you're getting blacklisted you motherfkers. I've added everyone in this thread who has admitted to AFKing to the list as well.

The players who are on this list, have a reaaaalll special treat coming to them and their respective Corps. Until that treat arrives enjoy Farming in the MCC for as long as you can, because judgement is coming real soon @ssholes.

AFKing: Not against the rules.

Evading content filter to forum rage: Actually against the rules.

I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.

Omg the lulz

And you are making this game better by advocating CCP to **** people who are rightfully bored of this build out of SP....?

I don't think it's slander to put a game identity on a list for AFKing... nor do I think game identities need to be concerned about privacy with respect to public in-game actions.

That's not even a valid comparison.....you are really just trolling now, which doesn't help your anti-AFK campaign at all.

Without proof I can name random names and say they were WP farming in the corner of the map. Or say someone was exploiting an glitch in the game to get more kill / wp / ISK.

You can't post people names here on a list that gets them involved in anything without permission. Unless you have proof, every thread regarding a list will be locked.

And tbh, even with proof, you'll be skating on thin ice. Name and shaming is against most forum rules.

I know right? It's like we should reward athletes that take steroids because they just want to improve their game.

"should"

I know right? It's like we should reward athletes that take steroids because they just want to improve their game.

Getting ahead by putting in little effort where others put in full effort....

Seems like a valid comparison to me.

Who else has received this message in game. I literally laughed my ass off. I am now on a official AFK list.

Is there a special bar i can enter because of this. A little VIP club. What does this give me. :)

Just because someone gets away with something, doesn't mean they should

Also, should is one of those words where when I write it, my brain is like...that HAS to be wrong...nope...

steroids can cause bodily harm so a rule was made to prevent the usage
AFK using the game mechanics to the extend in which it was made, no rule about or of and no harm to actual people.
so how is it valid again?

CCP has had more than enough time to specifically state "this is an illegal exploit" or something like that, they have not.
I believe they should have, but since they haven't I cannot see how anyone can advocate removing SP from AFK'urs.

You LITERALLY laughed your ass off? dumbass

I can't really speak for Caeli's intelligence, but anyone who takes such a common phrase literally must be stupid.

Ughh... I believe they said they were addressing the issue and looking for a way to stop it come Uprising, clearly they don't want people to continue doing it.


I can't really speak for Caeli's intelligence, but anyone who takes such a common phrase literally must be stupid.

Previous lists of AFK players have been locked for being stupid.

Their goal is to prevent vigilante justice. The last thing CCP wants is cyber bullying, hacking, or a real life confrontation making its way into the news. It attracts the most dangerous kind of PvP, the litigation kind.

Are you replying as if I had some other reason for mentioning that?

I just can't quite figure out why that needs explaining.

It wasn't meant to be a put down. Sorry about that.

The "stupid" statement will be taken seriously by some people. Hence the clarification.

I know right, it's almost like I'd rather the game be better for everyone, instead of being selfish and just making it better for me

Now thats just dumb and silly, don't you remeber how much it sucked when we curbstomped everyone when we play, i maintain our AFKing is our way of giving the noobs a fighting chance.

Well at least that's creative.

I'd give you an A for effort, but.....

How bout we AFK farm cause the merc docs put us on guard duty after breaking our backs from carrying everyone.

ITT: People who feel like playing the game demonise AFKers to feed their own delusions of grandeur.

FACT

If you dont like AFKers then dont play skirmish for the first 3-4 days of reset. Once AFKers hit their max they stop afking unless they are just trying to grief players.

Not fact.

An uneven distribution of AFK'urs is detrimental to the team with more, this affects K/D (some people care) and Dropsuit expenses, also the most important thing, Winning.

Who else has received this message in game. I literally laughed my ass off. I am now on a official AFK list.

Is there a special bar i can enter because of this. A little VIP club. What does this give me. :)

Edit:

Lets just say, I'm not AFKing. I'm roleplaying a saboteur.

Having a PRO on your team also has a negative impact on winning as well. Your point?

ad homonym for what purpose? did I hurt your feelings? did you take offense because PRO makes you mad? you, your opinion of me or my corp are irrelevant to this discussion. Your response however makes it appear that you wish to change the subject. Most posting Pro AFK are Vocal and seem to be proud of it.Why bother trying to misdirect? Maybe a simple guilty conscious lol.


AFK'urs are harmful to the game. It appears CCP doesn't want to take a stand on it (at this time) so it is quite legal. Harmful to the game, harmful to the team of random scrubs you don't care about. If there was such a thing as Karma it would be harmful to that too. Just not against the rules.

This theoretical list has been added to the master list of lists.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65529&find=unread

Who else has received this message in game. I literally laughed my ass off. I am now on a official AFK list.

Is there a special bar i can enter because of this. A little VIP club. What does this give me. :)

AFKers are as harmful to the game as more active saboteurs. Both will result in people who aren't suited for New Eden storming off in a huff.

Because nothing says New Eden like AFK....

What makes me really sad about saying that....is that it's true....

I hate you guys....so much....

May 6 we-¦ll get grouping becoming something that have value, the afking will probably happen only in pubmatches, cause when real isk is involved, afkers will be kicked from the corp and the corp match.

And teamkilled.

Does AFK currently happen outside of pubs?

Nobody has any obligation to help you win the match. That seems to be where you're getting messed up. You seem to feel like people on your team are obliged to help win and that you're entitled to their help. That's not the case.

Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son.

Not really, I'd just prefer people to man up and either play the game or leave. It's alright though, I can't argue this with you guys, because you clearly feel entitled to it and simply don't understand the logical point of view. Carry on, oh wayward son.

I love how people still try to justify it to themselves, instead of just admitting how lame they are.

This game, I'm tellin' ya.

You play a game, to not play the game.

People underestimate CCP, read the terms and agreement, CCP doesn't need to tell us their gonna punish the AFK'ers, they simply are just gonna do it and when people kick up a **** storm about it CCP will laugh in their faces, proabalby with a response similiar to "What you complaining about? not like you played our game is it?"

Or are people actually making lists of AFKers and sending them messages about it?

People underestimate CCP, read the terms and agreement, CCP doesn't need to tell us their gonna punish the AFK'ers, they simply are just gonna do it and when people kick up a **** storm about it CCP will laugh in their faces, proabalby with a response similiar to "What you complaining about? not like you played our game is it?"

You play a game, to not play the game.

The game i want to play will come out in the next years. The game i-¦m willing to play, wil come out May 6. The game that i am playing, is a generic futuristic shooter.

I want the RTS and consequence, not a K/D ratio to brag about.

It's just funny that so many people feel entitled to get free rewards, and have such trouble seeing the problem with that.

HTFU? Because people are abusing an exploit?

You're rewarded because you're gaining SP, the primary component in this game to advancing yourself as a character, and you're gaining it by not playing the game.

It's cut and dry, you're the ones who are complicating it.

And the only thing pathetic is people AFKing lmfao

You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.

I can't explain it better.

As you said.

Carry on.

Abusing an exploit???

IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You get 5 SP per second. How is that an exploit? How is this different to a sniper off somewhere doing nothing in a mountain? Gets 0 kills, and 0 deaths? You're saying he's "abusing an exploit" too?

I get passive SP from not playing the game also...does that make me a cheat? Your argument is brilliant as the 5sp per second mechanic CCP put in!

I haven't seen a single comment from a Dev, or GM saying this is against rules. So until then, all you crybabies can keep shedding tears, taking names, and trying to TK.

Crying on the forums about people being AFK is the most pathetic thing I've seen on this forum. "OOOH NOOOO HE'S GETTING SP FOR NOT PLAYING!! BOOO HOOO! QQ"

While you're at it, complain about people using boosters against people who are not. They are obviously getting an advantage right? Must be an exploit! They're abusing it!

You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.

I can't explain it better.

As you said.

Carry on.

Sorry passive SP, you're an exploit now.

Your right Lance, you're not abusing an exploit. You are abusing a mechanic that was put into the game in an attempt to help players who try their best and still fail to make decent SP earnings.

All I'm saying is that if CCP doesn't punish you for abusing a mechanic meant for people who try but fail, that's fine with me since they plan to fix the system. But if they DO decide to snatch away all SP from matches in which you had less than a certain number of button presses or moved under a certain distance or whatever criteria they may or may not plan to use, it'll be funny as hell to watch all AFKers rage over loosing SP they risked nothing to earn. It'll be almost as satisfying as when missile tankers and dropship pilots got their missiles nerfed. ALMOST.

My tear glass isn't in hand, but it's nearby just in case.

Hey, I'll be on a mountain sniping... don't ever say I didn't try cuz I went 0-0... i'm a terrible sniper

Edit: CCP can't take away SP from people who used boosters. They never commented about it being a cheat, so unless they want to refund people their money back, they can't take away SP. Demanding that they do is being a drama queen.

As for boosters/AUR/SP/etc take-backs/refunds, they may be considering it. You never know what they'll do when under pressure: http://www.dust411.com/2013/04/10/merc-pack-refund-debate-update/

You don't think not playing the game, yet being rewarded in the game, isn't an exploit.

I can't explain it better.

As you said.

Carry on.

Exploit:
1. To employ to the greatest possible advantage.

*Sighs*

But........am I being unethical? Not until CCP says it's a bad thing, verbatim, not some, "We'd prefer if you didn't," bull.

Am I being selfish? Yes. However, even though I know it's an evasion, I could just as easily call you selfish for not camping with me. As far as I know, Skirmish has no time limit, so if everyone camped, we'd all get massive SP rewards from a single game. You are cheating all these poor SP-less blueberries out of easily earned SP by discouraging AFKing.

*Sighs*

But........am I being unethical? Not until CCP says it's a bad thing, verbatim, not some, "We'd prefer if you didn't," bull.

Am I being selfish? Yes. However, even though I know it's an evasion, I could just as easily call you selfish for not camping with me. As far as I know, Skirmish has no time limit, so if everyone camped, we'd all get massive SP rewards from a single game. You are cheating all these poor SP-less blueberries out of easily earned SP by discouraging AFKing.

I would love to see a full game of AFKers, best sp for both sides.

2. To make use of selfishly or unethically

From the exact same page

mental gymnastics

On this: There is no reason to believe SP will be deducted. CCP hasn't spoken to that with regards to the reimbursement program.

I wasn't suggesting there was cause to think they would, I've said several times I'm fine whether or not they do it.

A new fad coming soon - AFK forum like farming.

I wasn't suggesting there was cause to think they would, I've said several times I'm fine whether or not they do it.

I was pointing out that if enough people pressure CCP, it might happen. They do all kinds of things due to audience pressure, and if they are planning to refund merc packs, boosters and all, the only way to not give away free SP boosters and AUR would be to remove SP gained via boosters. Which is a possibility as far as I can tell since they've yet to say it's off the table.

And if there is a chance they will be messing with peoples SP allotments, there's also a chance that they may penalize at least those players who openly admit to abusing a mechanic publicly. Like, say, here in the forums. Where it's all been flaunted for the world to see what they did.

I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.

Omg the lulz

Havent red the whole thread but from what i saw, there are people defending the possibility to afk ?

I'll be honest and admit i'm MCC afking myself while cleaning my apartment, cooking and i'm late on cap. Though, i'm still in favor of making afking NOT possible.

I LOL at all those trying to demonstrate that afk is ok.

1) Lore Wise : You take a contract from an NPC corp and you're getting paid. The most logical choice for those npc corp when you dont or pretend to fight would be to just pop you off the BF. No reward, No SP. bye merc.

2) Gameplay wise : This is a FPS. Afk all you want mining in EVE. But being able to idle in an FPS is just idiotic. Anyone that will say otherwise is either an uber-cowardly Carebear or an 8y-old that doesnt know anything about FPS.

Yet, i would tend to agree with those saying that AFK till now is CCP's fault. Not the players. Creating a mechanics that just screeeeeeeeeeeeams AFK and never reacting to any complaints from the player right when it started is on them. Punishing the players now would be as idiotic as the system itself.

Just as a reminder : here's a thread posted DAY ONE they announced the 5SP per sec in battle. When we got a daily LOLZ Cap at the same time :https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=457946#post457946

So NO ! no way CCP gets to punish players when they got warned day one this would ruin skirmish.

While I agree with you totally on 90% of your post, I have to say that just because CCP was warned that it would happen doesn't mean CCP can't punish people for abusing a mechanic in a way that it was not meant to be used.

Let me put it into a hypothetical:

"A store (CCP) sells goods (distribute SP). They decide to donate goods to a pantry (give 5 SP per second) in order to help and feed poor and homeless people (help poor/terrible players). People who work at the shelter (AFKers) can legally skim goods off of the top (AFK farm) to help themselves out (breeze through matches without risking ISK) while disadvantaging the poor further (leaving others to play without team support).

Just because these people (AFKers) CAN skim goods (AFK farm) legally off the top (at the expense of others) doesn't mean the store (CCP) supplying the goods (SP) can't penalize those people by adjusting prices on goods in their store (adjust SP totals) when they shop at their store (play Dust) if the store (CCP) finds out who was skimming (who was AFK farming)."

Not saying they should, but they do have that right.

Yeah cuz CCP is all about helping the needy

What? No, the current system isn't in place to help newberries who might go 0-20 against protobears, why would neberries need any help? It's there to help AFKers

Or maybe Dust Fiend a proud Corporate sheep.

I'm confused as to how that's supposed to relate to not wanting people to abuse a mechanic that is detrimental to the growth and longevity of the game....

Yeah cuz CCP is all about helping the needy, its not like they are a corporation trying to make money from you.

how generous of them to take away my sp

I guess the $40 wasnt enough

Another bright idea from the dust 514 fans, screw the players.

Must be hard managing CCP as a buisness.
Not being ripped off is like stealing from the homeless and getting away with it.

Dude.

+1....

::slow clap::

They take away the SP you earn from your boosters.

They give you back the AUR you spent on those boosters.

You still have the product you payed for.

The SP that was stolen however, that's up to CCP to decide what to do with.

No one is trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist, you are struggling and flailing at the issue when no one is pushing it. CCP has the right to punish people who abuse game mechanics because it is their game. AFKers are in in many cases costing the teammates they leave to fight their battles for them ISK by not backing them up, thus CCP has an excuse to do so if they so wish. And they could very well refund AUR spent on boosters used to abuse a mechanic. Do they have the drive to do all of this? I doubt it. Will they? I'd bet $20 on no. And yet you insist on insulting people who are supplying no ideas whatsoever to CCP, we are just discussing how hilarious it would be if they did.

Insecure much?

Note: And you are really going to bash Fiend for taking 2 minutes to respond? Do you think he's refreshing the page every 2 seconds to see if you've graced him with a response? You need to get a grip

Edit: And some bacon. Or get a firm grip on some bacon. Mmmmm.... bacon....

It's just funny that so many people feel entitled to get free rewards, and have such trouble seeing the problem with that.

Where in the terms and conditions of this game does it say CCP has the right to punish me if i "abuse game mechanics"?

I never insulted anybody, if you felt insulted its because youre insecure and then felt the need to insult me, the irony.

Im just discussing how ridiculous your argument is, find in the terms and conditions where they can "punish players" for "abusing game mechanics"

Edit: Put that bacon in your pipe and smoke it you need to stop inventing rights.

It took you a whole 2 minutes to come up with that?

http://www.butnotyet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/jesus-facepalm.jpg

No one is trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist, you are struggling and flailing at the issue when no one is pushing it. CCP has the right to punish people who abuse game mechanics because it is their game. AFKers are in in many cases costing the teammates they leave to fight their battles for them ISK by not backing them up, thus CCP has an excuse to do so if they so wish. And they could very well refund AUR spent on boosters used to abuse a mechanic. Do they have the drive to do all of this? I doubt it. Will they? I'd bet $20 on no. And yet you insist on insulting people who are supplying no ideas whatsoever to CCP, we are just discussing how hilarious it would be if they did.

Insecure much?

Note: And you are really going to bash Fiend for taking 2 minutes to respond? Do you think he's refreshing the page every 2 seconds to see if you've graced him with a response? You need to get a grip

Edit: And some bacon. Or get a firm grip on some bacon. Mmmmm.... bacon....

Actually what I would find hilarious is how bad of a hit in players CCP would have if they did this. I dont know how they are doing right now but I do know that if they were to implement one of these suggestions (for the lulz) then this game would die. There are enough people that I see AFKing that CCP would take a huge hit in the population that plays this game. If you think the game is bleeding players now if they were to do this they would have stopped bleeding players by cutting an artery.

I honestly dont care what other people think of me and I enjoy all the people who cry over AFKers. I do play the game but I also mix in AFK......why? Simple if you create a system where you level out the rewards despite an individuals effort in the game then the individual will stop trying so hard and will simply start doing only the minimum requirement to earn the same amount of reward. Its human nature. This is why socialism/communism systems always fail. They rely on everyone working as hard as they would normally work if they were to receive the fruits of their labor while at the same time giving them the same rewards as someone else who is much less skilled than they are.

Silly bunny.
Myth #3: Under socialism, there is no incentive to work

Socialism rewards hard work, while under capitalism the richest people are the ones who do no work at all. In a socialist society, the working class controls the means of production and the fruits of its own labor and therefore has a real stake in the realization of its full capacity to produce. The main incentive to work under capitalism is the threat of being fired and starvation.

Under socialism, a person is paid according to the work they do. Under capitalism, the least productive members of societyGÇöthe bankers and CEOsGÇögrow obscenely wealthy while working class people live paycheck to paycheck.

Your analogy doesn-¦t refer to the afker, it would mean that the CEO of the corp, managing the PI, and the rewards of the mercs work, would be filthy rich, and you don-¦t get enough money from your work as a merc.

Plus, you are forgetting all the other variables present.

Why AFK?
- Powergaming - Max reward/time
- Boredom

How to avoid AFK?
- Powergaming (If you participate you get more SP than being AFK)
- GIving interesting content to play with
- Social response (Ban/Kick, Team Kill)

May 6th will bring a lot of new things for people to play with, things that actually matter, and thing people will kill you for.

Just try to be afk on a real corp match with a good contract at stake and the money of Planetary Interface on the table.

ad homonym for what purpose? did I hurt your feelings? did you take offense because PRO makes you mad? you, your opinion of me or my corp are irrelevant to this discussion. Your response however makes it appear that you wish to change the subject. Most posting Pro AFK are Vocal and seem to be proud of it.Why bother trying to misdirect? Maybe a simple guilty conscious lol.


AFK'urs are harmful to the game. It appears CCP doesn't want to take a stand on it (at this time) so it is quite legal. Harmful to the game, harmful to the team of random scrubs you don't care about. If there was such a thing as Karma it would be harmful to that too. Just not against the rules.

LOL is all I can say to that....LOL

I wrote a long post to reply to this and then realized......I am waisting my time. You have obviously been indoctrinated to believe that the rich are evil or somehow none of them worked to earn their money. I have relatives that would beg to differ with you on that but hey you can believe what you want. What I post here will obviously not change your mind.

LOL is all I can say to that....LOL

I wrote a long post to reply to this and then realized......I am waisting my time. You have obviously been indoctrinated to believe that the rich are evil or somehow none of them worked to earn their money. I have relatives that would beg to differ with you on that but hey you can believe what you want. What I post here will obviously not change your mind.

I dont know how they are doing right now but I do know that if they were to implement one of these suggestions (for the lulz) then this game would die. There are enough people that I see AFKing that CCP would take a huge hit in the population that plays this game.

Cutting out the cancer and making an example of them would only serve to strengthen the growing community, since new players wouldn't have to watch people sitting around doing nothing being rewarded in an FPS (and it would also deter people from abusing game mechanics, if they knew that at any point, CCP could and would punish them for their actions)

To the person who wrote me an essay on EVE, EVE isn't an FPS. What flies in EVE isn't always going to fly in DUST, different games are in fact different

You read the first 4-5 paragraphs and assumed i was talking about EVE?

Cutting out the cancer and making an example of them would only serve to strengthen the growing community, since new players wouldn't have to watch people sitting around doing nothing being rewarded in an FPS (and it would also deter people from abusing game mechanics, if they knew that at any point, CCP could and would punish them for their actions)

To the person who wrote me an essay on EVE, EVE isn't an FPS. What flies in EVE isn't always going to fly in DUST, different games are in fact different

They've had ample time to discourage this and haven't done so.

Retribution at this stage would be a really lame move.

if you don't spawn, the voice says something to the effect of "your unwillingness to fight has been noted" and other "get back in the fight" type messages. i think that's enough to count as fair warning.

i'd love to see all the threads pop up if AFK farmers lost all their ill-gotten SP during the SP respec. *sweet karma*

I actually only read the first 4-5 lines, still waking up

Alright, I read it, sorry about that bro. I agree with basically everything, except that it isn't an exploit. People aren't going to be in PC and Corp matches 23/7, no matter how many goodies they give us.

People who feel entitled to earning SP in DUST for having their PS3s on won't change their mentality in the long run. If the option to exploit the system remains, they will continue to do so.

In EVE, fleet commanders tend to kill their stupid teammates to serve as an example of what not to do in fleets.

We-¦ll be seeing a lot of teamkilling and kicking of people in Dust when the option is available =p

In EVE, fleet commanders tend to kill their stupid teammates to serve as an example of what not to do in fleets.

We-¦ll be seeing a lot of teamkilling and kicking of people in Dust when the option is available =p

they actually said that friendly fire is only going to be on in corp matches.

Corp matches yes.

Pub matches no.

CCP has said it is unlikely that TKing will ever be put into pub matches back when we had a big debate about it a month ago. Which means..... no, the players wont be able to fix it.

I meant at corp matches. Im not considering playing on pub ones, thr same way i dont fleet up with strangers in eve. Loooooots of room to be killed or messed up by strangers.

I meant at corp matches. Im not considering playing on pub ones, thr same way i dont fleet up with strangers in eve. Loooooots of room to be killed or messed up by strangers.

you can do that now.. so this really doesn't apply to you at all does it?

Do you really expect people to AFK during corp matches when planets are on the line? If it happens, it'll only be the once.

Also, do you really expect to invite strangers to fight for you in corp matches?

That is exactly what i-¦ve been saying all the time!

Pub matches doesn-¦t matter (for me at least), and corp matches won-¦t tolerate afk players. No problem to be solved.

I to have officially been afk listed. Got a message after one of my matches.... I chuckled

I just got my "afk listed" message. Oh nooooooooooo, whatever shall I do?