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EKH0 0ne
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Posted - 2013.04.12 06:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I still hold out that CCP has a way of tracking those who abuse this "mechanic" and have all SP gained that way removed in the Uprising update.
Omg the lulz
Omg the afk not c's are back! |
EKH0 0ne
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:16:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Havent red the whole thread but from what i saw, there are people defending the possibility to afk ?  I'll be honest and admit i'm MCC afking myself while cleaning my apartment, cooking and i'm late on cap. Though, i'm still in favor of making afking NOT possible. I LOL at all those trying to demonstrate that afk is ok. 1) Lore Wise : You take a contract from an NPC corp and you're getting paid. The most logical choice for those npc corp when you dont or pretend to fight would be to just pop you off the BF. No reward, No SP. bye merc. 2) Gameplay wise : This is a FPS. Afk all you want mining in EVE. But being able to idle in an FPS is just idiotic. Anyone that will say otherwise is either an uber-cowardly Carebear or an 8y-old that doesnt know anything about FPS. Yet, i would tend to agree with those saying that AFK till now is CCP's fault. Not the players. Creating a mechanics that just screeeeeeeeeeeeams AFK and never reacting to any complaints from the player right when it started is on them. Punishing the players now would be as idiotic as the system itself. Just as a reminder : here's a thread posted DAY ONE they announced the 5SP per sec in battle. When we got a daily LOLZ Cap at the same time :https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=457946#post457946
So NO ! no way CCP gets to punish players when they got warned day one this would ruin skirmish. While I agree with you totally on 90% of your post, I have to say that just because CCP was warned that it would happen doesn't mean CCP can't punish people for abusing a mechanic in a way that it was not meant to be used. Let me put it into a hypothetical: "A store (CCP) sells goods (distribute SP). They decide to donate goods to a pantry (give 5 SP per second) in order to help and feed poor and homeless people (help poor/terrible players). People who work at the shelter (AFKers) can legally skim goods off of the top (AFK farm) to help themselves out (breeze through matches without risking ISK) while disadvantaging the poor further (leaving others to play without team support).
Just because these people (AFKers) CAN skim goods (AFK farm) legally off the top (at the expense of others) doesn't mean the store (CCP) supplying the goods (SP) can't penalize those people by adjusting prices on goods in their store (adjust SP totals) when they shop at their store (play Dust) if the store (CCP) finds out who was skimming (who was AFK farming)."Not saying they should, but they do have that right.
Yeah cuz CCP is all about helping the needy, its not like they are a corporation trying to make money from you.
how generous of them to take away my sp
I also have the right to refunded aurum, and refunded money if they take the sp away i used the aurum for. |
EKH0 0ne
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:30:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:
Yeah cuz CCP is all about helping the needy
What? No, the current system isn't in place to help newberries who might go 0-20 against protobears, why would neberries need any help? It's there to help AFKers 
hmm.......not sure what your trying to say. Sarcasm? U suggesting CCP actually thought about the players and thats why the afk is there so they can catch up? If so your probably right. any of you guys ever thought they want it that way . And CCP has better things to do besides rip off their customers
Or are you saying the afk system is preventing them from catching up?
Either way i was hoping for a response from the guy i quoted anywayas
Or maybe Dust Fiend a proud Corporate sheep. |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:Or maybe Dust Fiend a proud Corporate sheep. I'm confused as to how that's supposed to relate to not wanting people to abuse a mechanic that is detrimental to the growth and longevity of the game....
Awwww, i thought you were gonna defend CCPs right to steal from me |
EKH0 0ne
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Posted - 2013.04.12 08:54:00 -
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Reasons CCP should steal from me:
The game can be played for free
I broke a rule that doesnt exist
I didnt have to use real money while breaking a rule that doesnt exits
another ignorant comment as if ive been buying boosters to afk in the mcc and i dont ever actually play the game.
part 2 of ignorant comment is that it only screws over the people who give money to CCP
Are you reading this guys:
CCP has the right to "punish" people for breaking rules that dont exist, and dont worry it only affects the paying customers. After all Its not CCPs fault i decided to become a customer. And all the hours youve played the game well..who gives a **** you afk when you clean your room and watch tv your title as player has been revoked.
This is what I see everyday when i hop on the forums, Useless, backwards thinking, uneducated reasoning. Please CCP nerf them. I am beggining to regret purchasing my 2nd booster. Not because i dont like the game, but because players like Baal wanna reach into my Account and decide how i should play and what punishment i deserve for not playing like him. Who knows you might actually listnen to these guys |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:They take away the SP you earn from your boosters.
They give you back the AUR you spent on those boosters.
You still have the product you payed for.
The SP that was stolen however, that's up to CCP to decide what to do with.
It took you a whole 2 minutes to come up with that?
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EKH0 0ne
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:02:00 -
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Are these the people CCP gets their ideas from? |
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:23:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:No one is trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist, you are struggling and flailing at the issue when no one is pushing it. CCP has the right to punish people who abuse game mechanics because it is their game. AFKers are in in many cases costing the teammates they leave to fight their battles for them ISK by not backing them up, thus CCP has an excuse to do so if they so wish. And they could very well refund AUR spent on boosters used to abuse a mechanic. Do they have the drive to do all of this? I doubt it. Will they? I'd bet $20 on no. And yet you insist on insulting people who are supplying no ideas whatsoever to CCP, we are just discussing how hilarious it would be if they did.  Insecure much?  Note: And you are really going to bash Fiend for taking 2 minutes to respond? Do you think he's refreshing the page every 2 seconds to see if you've graced him with a response? You need to get a grip Edit: And some bacon. Or get a firm grip on some bacon. Mmmmm.... bacon....
Where in the terms and conditions of this game does it say CCP has the right to punish me if i "abuse game mechanics"?
I never insulted anybody, if you felt insulted its because youre insecure.
Im just discussing how ridiculous your argument is, find in the terms and conditions where they can "punish players" for "abusing game mechanics"
Edit: Put that bacon in your pipe and smoke it you need to stop inventing rights. |
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